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Post by shtownpl » Mon Apr 21, 2014 5:38 pm

Here is some data on the class of 2016 at HLS:

Number of Applications: 5,510
Number of Admission Offers: 858
Percentage Offered Admission: 15.6%
Newly Enrolled 1Ls: 564
So implied yield: 66% ... 564/858
http://www.law.harvard.edu/prospective/ ... ofile.html

HBS Class of 2015 (latest I could find)
Application: 9,315
Admission Offers: 12%
Yield: 89%
http://www.hbs.edu/about/facts-and-figu ... stics.aspx

Now granted I am comparing two different classes but y/o/y i doubt the data will change so much ...

so here is what I don't understand ... why are there almost twice as many applicants to HBS over HLS? Why is the yield at HLS so low compared to HBS? Does this imply that HLS applicants are unsure about law school in the first place? I've noticed YLS has only a slighter better yield ~80%. Does HLS not carry such a strong brand relative to HBS ... does that explain the yield?

Thanks.

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Re: Low Yield

Post by ph14 » Mon Apr 21, 2014 5:43 pm

shtownpl wrote:Here is some data on the class of 2016 at HLS:

Number of Applications: 5,510
Number of Admission Offers: 858
Percentage Offered Admission: 15.6%
Newly Enrolled 1Ls: 564
So implied yield: 66% ... 564/858
http://www.law.harvard.edu/prospective/ ... ofile.html

HBS Class of 2015 (latest I could find)
Application: 9,315
Admission Offers: 12%
Yield: 89%
http://www.hbs.edu/about/facts-and-figu ... stics.aspx

Now granted I am comparing two different classes but y/o/y i doubt the data will change so much ...

so here is what I don't understand ... why are there almost twice as many applicants to HBS over HLS? Why is the yield at HLS so low compared to HBS? Does this imply that HLS applicants are unsure about law school in the first place? I've noticed YLS has only a slighter better yield ~80%. Does HLS not carry such a strong brand relative to HBS ... does that explain the yield?

Thanks.
I don't get what you are puzzled about. They are two different schools in two different fields.

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Re: Low Yield

Post by UnicornHunter » Mon Apr 21, 2014 5:48 pm

shtownpl wrote:Here is some data on the class of 2016 at HLS:

Number of Applications: 5,510
Number of Admission Offers: 858
Percentage Offered Admission: 15.6%
Newly Enrolled 1Ls: 564
So implied yield: 66% ... 564/858
http://www.law.harvard.edu/prospective/ ... ofile.html

HBS Class of 2015 (latest I could find)
Application: 9,315
Admission Offers: 12%
Yield: 89%
http://www.hbs.edu/about/facts-and-figu ... stics.aspx

Now granted I am comparing two different classes but y/o/y i doubt the data will change so much ...

so here is what I don't understand ... why are there almost twice as many applicants to HBS over HLS? Why is the yield at HLS so low compared to HBS? Does this imply that HLS applicants are unsure about law school in the first place? I've noticed YLS has only a slighter better yield ~80%. Does HLS not carry such a strong brand relative to HBS ... does that explain the yield?

Thanks.
Probably has something to do with the extreme numbers-driven process of law school admissions vs b-school admissions. If you have the numbers to get into Harvard, there's a good chance you have the numbers to get into YS or a lower 14 with a good amount of money. Because MBA programs consider more than just GMAT/GPA, good applicants are less likely to have multiple options to chose from.

ALSO, law schools all offer, essentially, the same education. Any sort of clinics/specialties/etc... matter a lot less for law schools than similar factors do for b-school. I.E. you want to work at a tech start-up, you're probably better off at Berkeley's b-school than at HBS.

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Re: Low Yield

Post by jbagelboy » Mon Apr 21, 2014 8:21 pm

HBS and SBS dominate b-school cross-admit amongst the M7. And SBS has such a low admit rate that many will get into HBS but not SBS, leaving it as their default option.

HLS, conversely, competes with Yale, Stanford, and Columbia, Chicago, NYU on scholarship. It loses students to each of these schools every year. Naturally it will have a lower yield; it's actually impressive that it holds 60%+ yield with so many competitive alternatives as it is.

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Re: Low Yield

Post by Theopliske8711 » Tue Apr 22, 2014 10:41 am

What are schollys like at business schools?

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Post by jbagelboy » Tue Apr 22, 2014 11:18 am

Theopliske8711 wrote:What are schollys like at business schools?
If you're doing it right, your employer pays for it - either during or retroactively.

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