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seriously stop asking me gah

I know, I hate being asked the "are you a mauve dinosaur, and if so, how many red velociraptors and yellow ultrasaurs did you room with in college," question.

I even had to draw a diagram.

I was asked if I love lamp and, if so, how many lamps have I loved in the past 12 months.

They keep asking me if I have whiskers. I keep telling them of course I do, I keep getting lasagna in them. Then they asked how often I get lasagna in my whiskers and I told them at least 4 times per day.

Serious answer here: some schools are probably seeking to strengthen their GLBT organizations and want to compile lists so that their representatives can reach out. It's also for statistical purposes that can only help the causes of GLBT students and their community at-large. The fact that the demographic is isolated and counted suggests that schools are seeking diversity.

Of course, anyone can misrepresent himself either way (i.e. Y/N); so how do the schools know whether they are even getting accurate info?

Maybe they are trying to launch a law student orgy program as a desperate promotion in these desperate times of falling applicants, and they need some versatility to mix in in order to make everything work.

Two big reasons:

1) Every 1L class involves LGBT issues in some way. LGBT students might have an interesting perspective on those issues.

2) LGBT students are considered "diverse" for firm hiring purposes and thus have a slightly better shot at a firm job. I'm not LGBT, so I can't confirm from personal experience.

androstan wrote:Maybe they are trying to launch a law student orgy program as a desperate promotion in these desperate times of falling applicants, and they need some versatility to mix in in order to make everything work.

But what if you aren't versatile?

what would be considered 'versatile'

thevuch wrote:what would be considered 'versatile'

An individual comfortable with being either top or bottom. HTH

banjo wrote: 2) LGBT students are considered "diverse" for firm hiring purposes and thus have a slightly better shot at a firm job. I'm not LGBT, so I can't confirm from personal experience.

Wut? Really?

Oh yeah, I'd also like to take this opportunity to announce that I'm officially bi now.

bi sexual or
bi curious or
bi pedal or
bi nary or

Will_McAvoy wrote:

banjo wrote: 2) LGBT students are considered "diverse" for firm hiring purposes and thus have a slightly better shot at a firm job. I'm not LGBT, so I can't confirm from personal experience.

Wut? Really?

Oh yeah, I'd also like to take this opportunity to announce that I'm officially bi now.

Check out Lavender Law. A legal hiring conference just for LGBT students

Attax wrote:

thevuch wrote:what would be considered 'versatile'

An individual comfortable with being either top or bottom. HTH

thevuch wrote:bi sexual or
bi curious or
bi pedal or
bi nary or
bi lesbian

Doesn't matter. Dig a little further and I'll sue you, bro.

But seriously: I didn't know that gave a tangible boost in employment. Where does one's sexual orientation come up in an interview, and how does the employer verify said orientation if it is a contributing factor to them being hired?

Will_McAvoy wrote:

thevuch wrote:bi sexual or
bi curious or
bi pedal or
bi nary or
bi lesbian

Doesn't matter. Dig a little further and I'll sue you, bro.

im reading the associate right now

i know all about you

Will_McAvoy wrote:

thevuch wrote:bi sexual or
bi curious or
bi pedal or
bi nary or
bi lesbian

Doesn't matter. Dig a little further and I'll sue you, bro.

But seriously: I didn't know that gave a tangible boost in employment. Where does one's sexual orientation come up in an interview, and how does the employer verify said orientation if it is a contributing factor to them being hired?

As an LGBT person who hasn't started LS yet, I'm not sure. Most of my coworkers don't even know because I don't go around introducing myself as "Hi, I'm attax, I'm LGBT." However, the diversity boost has to exist somewhat, but not sure how substantial it is. I don't think they could prove it, just like I could marry a woman and laugh at the diversity statement I wrote claiming I was "confused" or "I misunderstood myself." But I don't know why anyone would claim they're LGBT for LS purposes if they aren't. It has its ups and downs regardless of where you lie on the spectrum, but I'd trade job prospects for simply being accepted and the world not giving a fuck about it and just letting me live my life.

cricketlove00 wrote:

Attax wrote:

thevuch wrote:what would be considered 'versatile'

An individual comfortable with being either top or bottom. HTH

i have a good friend who is LGBT here at my undergrad law school

why isnt it LGBTA?

A as in asexual.

She's told me about how they are trying to subsume themselves into the movement

Attax wrote:
As an LGBT person who hasn't started LS yet, I'm not sure. Most of my coworkers don't even know because I don't go around introducing myself as "Hi, I'm attax, I'm LGBT." However, the diversity boost has to exist somewhat, but not sure how substantial it is. I don't think they could prove it, just like I could marry a woman and laugh at the diversity statement I wrote claiming I was "confused" or "I misunderstood myself." But I don't know why anyone would claim they're LGBT for LS purposes if they aren't. It has its ups and downs regardless of where you lie on the spectrum, but I'd trade job prospects for simply being accepted and the world not giving a fuck about it and just letting me live my life.

Right -- it's a personal part of your life that has no bearing on your ability to perform your job. If giving a boost is rectifying LGBT discrimination in hiring, then awesome, but does that really happen in law school/the legal profession today? Maybe I'm naive, but I'd really think/hope not.

thevuch wrote:i have a good friend who is LGBT here at my undergrad law school

why isnt it LGBTA?

A as in asexual.

She's told me about how they are trying to subsume themselves into the movement

I believe the truly politically correct term is LGBTQIA, which is also inclusive of intersex and queer persons.

thevuch wrote:i have a good friend who is LGBT here at my undergrad law school

why isnt it LGBTA?

A as in asexual.

She's told me about how they are trying to subsume themselves into the movement

Because there's asexuality, pansexuality, homosexual heteroromantic, . . .

LGBT may stand for Lesbian Gay Bisexual Transexual, and although the spectrum is more complicated than that it is a broad umbrella term meant to include all people who aren't heterosexual heteroromantics. That is what people assume when they hear LGBT and I think encompassing it all would get us a nice super long LGBTQAT*tAgGq... No one wants to say that.

Will_McAvoy wrote:

Attax wrote:
As an LGBT person who hasn't started LS yet, I'm not sure. Most of my coworkers don't even know because I don't go around introducing myself as "Hi, I'm attax, I'm LGBT." However, the diversity boost has to exist somewhat, but not sure how substantial it is. I don't think they could prove it, just like I could marry a woman and laugh at the diversity statement I wrote claiming I was "confused" or "I misunderstood myself." But I don't know why anyone would claim they're LGBT for LS purposes if they aren't. It has its ups and downs regardless of where you lie on the spectrum, but I'd trade job prospects for simply being accepted and the world not giving a fuck about it and just letting me live my life.

Right -- it's a personal part of your life that has no bearing on your ability to perform your job. If giving a boost is rectifying LGBT discrimination in hiring, then awesome, but does that really happen in law school/the legal profession today? Maybe I'm naive, but I'd really think/hope not.

I think it really depends on where you are from. It may not necessarily be a sense of rectifying a wrong so much as it is with promoting a sense of acceptance: if we bring more of them in then we send a message to people that it is acceptable. I think it is more prominent in some places than others. I felt like UT was great about introducing me to OUTLaw people and other things because of it. Additionally, I think it also is strategic from a business perspective for top candidates at firms or schools. You don't want to lose a great associate because they didn't feel comfortable there. Total PR move, but also a viable hypothesis.

Attax wrote: I think it really depends on where you are from. It may not necessarily be a sense of rectifying a wrong so much as it is with promoting a sense of acceptance: if we bring more of them in then we send a message to people that it is acceptable. I think it is more prominent in some places than others. I felt like UT was great about introducing me to OUTLaw people and other things because of it.

I suppose. I've only really lived in pretty liberal and accepting areas, so I might be a little insulated.

Will you be trying to find a job in Waco after graduation?

Will_McAvoy wrote:

Attax wrote: I think it really depends on where you are from. It may not necessarily be a sense of rectifying a wrong so much as it is with promoting a sense of acceptance: if we bring more of them in then we send a message to people that it is acceptable. I think it is more prominent in some places than others. I felt like UT was great about introducing me to OUTLaw people and other things because of it.

I suppose. I've only really lived in pretty liberal and accepting areas, so I might be a little insulated.

Will you be trying to find a job in Waco after graduation?

I obv didn't send my diversity statement to Baylor

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