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Negotiating without any other options?

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:06 pm
by Jacked_Historian
I want to go to Vanderbilt. I can live with family and stay in-state. I didn't apply to any other schools. But I still want to get the best scholarship I can. How do i negotiate without other options?

Re: Negotiating without any other options?

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:08 pm
by sublime
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Re: Negotiating without any other options?

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:13 pm
by Nova
sublime wrote:Apply to other schools.

Seriously.
+1

You need leverage to negotiate well. If you don't have leverage youre just begging.

You could say that if its too expensive you wont be able to attend, I guess.

Re: Negotiating without any other options?

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:18 pm
by Jacked_Historian
i guess i could apply to the university of tennessee just for the purposes of negotiating. they did give me a fee waiver.

Re: Negotiating without any other options?

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:18 pm
by Jacked_Historian
if it matters, i went to school for undergraduate studies at Vanderbilt.

Re: Negotiating without any other options?

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:23 pm
by MKC
Apply to everything in the T15-20 range, even if you have no intention of going. You need other offers to work with. It's a pain in the ass, but worth it even if you only get a token increase. Worst case scenario is probably a 1k a year token increase. Do you have an easier way to make three grand than filling out applications?

Re: Negotiating without any other options?

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 2:35 am
by unodostres
MarkinKansasCity wrote:Do you have an easier way to make three grand than filling out applications?
Retaking would make me more :P

Re: Negotiating without any other options?

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 12:47 pm
by TheSpanishMain
Jacked_Historian wrote:i guess i could apply to the university of tennessee just for the purposes of negotiating. they did give me a fee waiver.
It generally needs to be a peer school to provide negotiating power. Apply to places like Emory, WUSTL, GW, Texas, etc.

Re: Negotiating without any other options?

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 10:47 pm
by notalobbyist
You never raised with 7-2 off-suit before?

Re: Negotiating without any other options?

Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 10:26 am
by kellohitty
Jacked_Historian wrote:i guess i could apply to the university of tennessee just for the purposes of negotiating. they did give me a fee waiver.
UT is pretty stingy with scholarships for in state. You would also need to apply to comparable (T1/upper T2) schools in order to gain leverage for negotiations.

Re: Negotiating without any other options?

Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 10:28 am
by kellohitty
Jacked_Historian wrote:if it matters, i went to school for undergraduate studies at Vanderbilt.
Unfortunately, it does not. It might actually make it more difficult because they don't need to entice you to the school with money because you already show interest by attending for UG.

Re: Negotiating without any other options?

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 12:51 am
by Jacked_Historian
Thanks for the advice, guys. I ended up applying to a few of the recommended schools.

Re: Negotiating without any other options?

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 1:45 am
by Nova
kellohitty wrote:
Jacked_Historian wrote:i guess i could apply to the university of tennessee just for the purposes of negotiating. they did give me a fee waiver.
UT is pretty stingy with scholarships for in state. You would also need to apply to comparable (T1/upper T2) schools in order to gain leverage for negotiations.
Even if you dont get much money from UT-K, you can still negotiate citing COA