Appellate Law/Clerkships Forum
- yomisterd
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Appellate Law/Clerkships
Does anyone know which schools have the best success preparing students and getting them into judicial clerkships? I know that Yale, Harvard, and Chicago have a large percentage of their graduating class go into clerkships, but I was curious if there are any programs in particular that specialize in appellate/Supreme Court law.
- ph14
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Re: Appellate Law/Clerkships
1. Go to the best school you get into.yomisterd wrote:Does anyone know which schools have the best success preparing students and getting them into judicial clerkships? I know that Yale, Harvard, and Chicago have a large percentage of their graduating class go into clerkships, but I was curious if there are any programs in particular that specialize in appellate/Supreme Court law.
2. The best schools are the best at getting them into judicial clerkships. Although it's probably not the biggest deal. If you are good enough to get a clerkship from Chicago, you will be good enough to get a clerkship from NYU and Columbia.
3. Some schools have Supreme Court litigation clinics, I know that Harvard and Stanford do.
4. How do you even know you want to do appellate/Supreme Court law? Perhaps you should get through a few years of law school and then figure out what you want to do.
5. Supreme Court litigation, and to a lesser extent federal appellate litigation in general, is dominated by Supreme Court and Court of Appeals clerks. School is less important than the clerkship for that practice area.
6. There's no need to pick a school that has a program that "specialize
- A. Nony Mouse
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Re: Appellate Law/Clerkships
Pretty much everything you read in law school is appellate/Supreme Court law...
I don't mean that to sound snarky, but your question seems to conflate 2 things: clerkship placement and academic programs. Nothing about what you take in law school really affects your chances at appellate clerkships. (For one thing, if you're talking about SCOTUS clerkships, that's a huge black box requiring tip-top qualifications and convincing the right people to go to bat for you; it's also such a tiny tiny percentage of law school grads that it would be unproductive for any school to try to offer any kind of "specialization" in it. Even COA clerkships go to a pretty small percentage of law students.) Schools with good clerkship placement are valuable places to be because it probably means they have more professors who have helpful connections, and who are willing to work those connections, than schools with lower placement rates. But there's nothing about the classes they take or the academic programs they offer that gives clerkship applicants an advantage.
I don't mean that to sound snarky, but your question seems to conflate 2 things: clerkship placement and academic programs. Nothing about what you take in law school really affects your chances at appellate clerkships. (For one thing, if you're talking about SCOTUS clerkships, that's a huge black box requiring tip-top qualifications and convincing the right people to go to bat for you; it's also such a tiny tiny percentage of law school grads that it would be unproductive for any school to try to offer any kind of "specialization" in it. Even COA clerkships go to a pretty small percentage of law students.) Schools with good clerkship placement are valuable places to be because it probably means they have more professors who have helpful connections, and who are willing to work those connections, than schools with lower placement rates. But there's nothing about the classes they take or the academic programs they offer that gives clerkship applicants an advantage.
- ph14
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Re: Appellate Law/Clerkships
This might be a chicken and egg type deal.A. Nony Mouse wrote:Pretty much everything you read in law school is appellate/Supreme Court law...
I don't mean that to sound snarky, but your question seems to conflate 2 things: clerkship placement and academic programs. Nothing about what you take in law school really affects your chances at appellate clerkships. (For one thing, if you're talking about SCOTUS clerkships, that's a huge black box requiring tip-top qualifications and convincing the right people to go to bat for you; it's also such a tiny tiny percentage of law school grads that it would be unproductive for any school to try to offer any kind of "specialization" in it. Even COA clerkships go to a pretty small percentage of law students.) Schools with good clerkship placement are valuable places to be because it probably means they have more professors who have helpful connections, and who are willing to work those connections, than schools with lower placement rates. But there's nothing about the classes they take or the academic programs they offer that gives clerkship applicants an advantage.
- A. Nony Mouse
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Yeah, that's true - couldn't think how to word that best.
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- ph14
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Re: Appellate Law/Clerkships
I completely agree with your post though.A. Nony Mouse wrote:Yeah, that's true - couldn't think how to word that best.
- yomisterd
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Re: Appellate Law/Clerkships
Thank you both for the advice. I kind of figured that it doesn't quite matter what particular classes I take, outside of participating in Supreme Court Clinics. But I wanted to see if anyone had insight I don't have access to as a non-law schooler.
- kalvano
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Re: Appellate Law/Clerkships
I hope this isn't the reason you're going to law school, because getting a clerkship at all, let alone COA or SCOTUS is insanely competitive.
So is any type of job that gives you a shot at arguing in front of the Supreme Court.
So is any type of job that gives you a shot at arguing in front of the Supreme Court.
- yomisterd
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Re: Appellate Law/Clerkships
HATERS GON' HATEkalvano wrote:I hope this isn't the reason you're going to law school, because getting a clerkship at all, let alone COA or SCOTUS is insanely competitive.
So is any type of job that gives you a shot at arguing in front of the Supreme Court.