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Biglaw or what?
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 3:07 pm
by whereskyle
So, I want to be a lawyer, because I want to pick apart arguments for a living. When I imagine my ideal job, it is NOT helping rich people get away with shit. Am I wrong to assume that this is a huge portion of the workload in biglaw? Also, if I want to be a hotshot lawyer working for the gov't or pi, am I going to have to go through biglaw anyway? I say this, because I am justifying to myself forgoing attendance at a T10 at sticker this year, because I don't want biglaw. Is biglaw in the cards for all of us anyway?
Re: Biglaw or what?
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 3:11 pm
by reverendt
What exactly is your question????
Re: Biglaw or what?
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 3:12 pm
by rad lulz
whereskyle wrote:So, I want to be a lawyer, because I want to pick apart arguments for a living. When I imagine my ideal job, it is NOT helping rich people get away with shit. Am I wrong to assume that this is a huge portion of the workload in biglaw? Also, if I want to be a hotshot lawyer working for the gov't or pi, am I going to have to go through biglaw anyway? I say this, because I am justifying to myself forgoing attendance at a T10 at sticker this year, because I don't want biglaw. Is biglaw in the cards for all of us anyway?
wat
Re: Biglaw or what?
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 3:14 pm
by Ave
Re: Biglaw or what?
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 3:15 pm
by homestyle28
whereskyle wrote:So, I want to be a lawyer, because I want to pick apart arguments for a living. When I imagine my ideal job, it is NOT helping rich people get away with shit. Am I wrong to assume that this is a huge portion of the workload in biglaw? Also, if I want to be a hotshot lawyer working for the gov't or pi, am I going to have to go through biglaw anyway? I say this, because I am justifying to myself forgoing attendance at a T10 at sticker this year, because I don't want biglaw. Is biglaw in the cards for all of us anyway?
not what lawyers really do on a day to day basis.
Re: Biglaw or what?
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 3:16 pm
by reverendt
homestyle28 wrote:whereskyle wrote:So, I want to be a lawyer, because I want to pick apart arguments for a living. When I imagine my ideal job, it is NOT helping rich people get away with shit. Am I wrong to assume that this is a huge portion of the workload in biglaw? Also, if I want to be a hotshot lawyer working for the gov't or pi, am I going to have to go through biglaw anyway? I say this, because I am justifying to myself forgoing attendance at a T10 at sticker this year, because I don't want biglaw. Is biglaw in the cards for all of us anyway?
not what lawyers really do on a day to day basis.
No, but when we get to do it it's alot of fun!
Re: Biglaw or what?
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 3:16 pm
by BerkeleyBear
OP, what are you smoking on? Pass that shit to the left.
Re: Biglaw or what?
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 3:16 pm
by whereskyle
1. Am I wrong to assume that helping rich people get away with shit is a huge portion of the workload in biglaw?
2. if I want to be a hotshot lawyer working for the gov't or pi, am I going to have to go through biglaw anyway?
Re: Biglaw or what?
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 3:23 pm
by Aawaldrop
Re: Biglaw or what?
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 3:24 pm
by whereskyle
Oh, come on, I have real questions now.
1. Am I wrong to assume that helping rich people get away with shit is a huge portion of the workload in biglaw?
2. if I want to be a hotshot lawyer working for the gov't or pi, am I going to have to go through biglaw anyway?
Re: Biglaw or what?
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 3:27 pm
by BerkeleyBear
whereskyle wrote:Oh, come on, I have real questions now.
1. Am I wrong to assume that helping rich people get away with shit is a huge portion of the workload in biglaw?
2. if I want to be a hotshot lawyer working for the gov't or pi, am I going to have to go through biglaw anyway?
1. You aren't wrong.
2. No. Not necessarily. But I doubt it would hurt.
Re: Biglaw or what?
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 3:29 pm
by whereskyle
BerkeleyBear wrote:whereskyle wrote:Oh, come on, I have real questions now.
1. Am I wrong to assume that helping rich people get away with shit is a huge portion of the workload in biglaw?
2. if I want to be a hotshot lawyer working for the gov't or pi, am I going to have to go through biglaw anyway?
1. You aren't wrong.
2. No. Not necessarily. But I doubt it would hurt.
I like berkeleybear better than all you all.
Re: Biglaw or what?
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 3:37 pm
by North
whereskyle wrote:Is biglaw in the cards for all of us anyway?
If only, bro.
Re: Biglaw or what?
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 3:40 pm
by homestyle28
whereskyle wrote:Oh, come on, I have real questions now.
1. Am I wrong to assume that helping rich people get away with shit is a huge portion of the workload in biglaw?
2. if I want to be a hotshot lawyer working for the gov't or pi, am I going to have to go through biglaw anyway?
If it makes you feel any better, by the time a company ponies up for a biglaw firm (in the litigation context) they're getting away with shit done to other rich people, not the peasants.
And if you're a hot shot gov't lawyer you've sold your soul as much as a partner at biglaw, that's why all the hot shot gov't lawyers either were partners or go on to be
Partners At Law firms.
If what you really want is to argue and do good in the world just become a HS teacher.
Re: Biglaw or what?
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 3:41 pm
by whereskyle
homestyle28 wrote:
If what you really want is to argue and do good in the world just become a HS teacher.
Re: Biglaw or what?
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 3:44 pm
by star fox
homestyle28 wrote:If what you really want is to argue and do good in the world just become a HS teacher.
Not sure about this statement.
Re: Biglaw or what?
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 3:45 pm
by whereskyle
whereskyle wrote:homestyle28 wrote:
If what you really want is to argue and do good in the world just become a HS teacher.
In my ignorance, I would say that PI law fits that criteria as much as a HS teacher.
Re: Biglaw or what?
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 3:47 pm
by homestyle28
whereskyle wrote:whereskyle wrote:homestyle28 wrote:
If what you really want is to argue and do good in the world just become a HS teacher.
In my ignorance, I would say that PI law fits that criteria as much as a HS teacher.
dude, take a year and do some PI work, see what those lawyers do and how they do it. Impact litigation is a thing, but not much of a career track
Re: Biglaw or what?
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 4:02 pm
by whereskyle
homestyle28 wrote:whereskyle wrote:whereskyle wrote:homestyle28 wrote:
If what you really want is to argue and do good in the world just become a HS teacher.
In my ignorance, I would say that PI law fits that criteria as much as a HS teacher.
dude, take a year and do some PI work, see what those lawyers do and how they do it. Impact litigation is a thing, but not much of a career track
Work at a non-pi firm. I've done pro bono cases, and I liked it a lot. Obviously, there's no money.
I'm concerned about the logic of attempting to pursue law while consciously attempting to avoid biglaw.
Re: Biglaw or what?
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 5:22 pm
by bchirco
Something about this thread makes me feel like Law and Order was used as a reference.
You don't just pick apart arguments for a living as a lawyer. If you are infatuated with the romantic part of law you are going to be severely disappointed. Being a "hotshot" lawyer is no longer a viable term for the graduating classes. Now just being a lawyer AT ALL is considered prestigious because most law grads won't be lucky enough to call themselves that.
For biglaw, yes, you will help rich people get away with stuff. But to be fair it's more than likely going to be against OTHER rich people. If you like to argue, that is not a good reason to go into law. If you want to do good for people, that is not a good reason to go into law. You need to be ready to accept if you go to law school you will be LUCKY if you get to practice law in ANY capacity, let alone the prospects you were actually interested in.
Sorry to be a jerk, but in reality from post I just don't feel like you have done enough research on this.
retake.
Re: Biglaw or what?
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 6:11 pm
by whereskyle
bchirco wrote:Something about this thread makes me feel like Law and Order was used as a reference.
If you like to argue, that is not a good reason to go into law. If you want to do good for people, that is not a good reason to go into law.
Sorry to be a jerk, but in reality from post I just don't feel like you have done enough research on this.
retake.
Hahaha, the only good reason I have for wanting to go to law school is my desire to advocate for the constitutional principles that make this country an acceptable place to live.
Isn't that a laugh?
Re: Biglaw or what?
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 6:13 pm
by bk1
whereskyle wrote:Hahaha, the only good reason I have for wanting to go to law school is my desire to advocate for the constitutional principles that make this country an acceptable place to live.
Not actually a good reason.
Re: Biglaw or what?
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 6:17 pm
by bchirco
whereskyle wrote:bchirco wrote:Something about this thread makes me feel like Law and Order was used as a reference.
If you like to argue, that is not a good reason to go into law. If you want to do good for people, that is not a good reason to go into law.
Sorry to be a jerk, but in reality from post I just don't feel like you have done enough research on this.
retake.
Hahaha, the only good reason I have for wanting to go to law school is my desire to advocate for the constitutional principles that make this country an acceptable place to live.
Isn't that a laugh?
Yeah, it is. Get a PhD in Political Science then. If you want to hold that boyscout idea of law, go crazy. It will only screw your chances against the sharks. Yale or bust bro, gl.
Also, "acceptable place to live?"
wat.
Re: Biglaw or what?
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 6:38 pm
by whereskyle
bk187 wrote:whereskyle wrote:Hahaha, the only good reason I have for wanting to go to law school is my desire to advocate for the constitutional principles that make this country an acceptable place to live.
Not actually a good reason.
If that isn't a good reason, then there are no good reasons to go to law school.
Re: Biglaw or what?
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 6:45 pm
by bchirco
whereskyle wrote:bk187 wrote:whereskyle wrote:Hahaha, the only good reason I have for wanting to go to law school is my desire to advocate for the constitutional principles that make this country an acceptable place to live.
Not actually a good reason.
If that isn't a good reason, then there are no good reasons to go to law school.
sweet conditional.
In all seriousness man, you need to do research. Start with this.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tucker-ma ... 13943.html
