Are There More Christians or Atheists in Law School?
Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 11:07 pm
More specifically T50 and T14 schools.
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damnTom Joad wrote:70% Christians of varying levels of intensity
20% Just not religious
5% Jews/Muslims/etc.
5% Atheist/Agnostic
Why is that?sinfiery wrote:I would be shocked if it was proportional to society in general.
Basic assumptions being greater IQ than average for society = less likely to be religiousJohn Mill wrote:Why is that?sinfiery wrote:I would be shocked if it was proportional to society in general.
Neither of those assumptions are true, and the first one is actually fairly stupidsinfiery wrote:Basic assumptions being greater IQ than average for society = less likely to be religiousJohn Mill wrote:Why is that?sinfiery wrote:I would be shocked if it was proportional to society in general.
Second assumption being greater IQ than average for society = more likely to be in law school
And that's about it
1) Jews like the lawJohn Mill wrote:Why is that?sinfiery wrote:I would be shocked if it was proportional to society in general.
Statistically, they are both most definitely true.John Mill wrote: Neither of those assumptions are true, and the first one is actually fairly stupid
People at the extremely successful end of the spectrum are almost uniformly religious.sinfiery wrote:Statistically, they are both most definitely true.John Mill wrote: Neither of those assumptions are true, and the first one is actually fairly stupid
Extremely successful has a weaker correlation with IQ than does someone in Academia/Scientist/etc. which are shockingly 40-80% different than society in general as far as their reported views.Tom Joad wrote:People at the extremely successful end of the spectrum are almost uniformly religious.sinfiery wrote:Statistically, they are both most definitely true.John Mill wrote: Neither of those assumptions are true, and the first one is actually fairly stupid
Those guys aren't extremely successful. I am talking presidents. Until you get to the extreme success level you see weird deviations, but people who run for president and get elected are religious.sinfiery wrote:Extremely successful has a weaker correlation with IQ than does Academia/Scientist/etc.Tom Joad wrote:People at the extremely successful end of the spectrum are almost uniformly religious.sinfiery wrote:Statistically, they are both most definitely true.John Mill wrote: Neither of those assumptions are true, and the first one is actually fairly stupid
Also, Bill Gates and Warren Buffet would like to have a word with you. But you did say 'almost' so nevermind.
So to be succesful you have to appeal to the ethics of the masses.Tom Joad wrote: Those guys aren't extremely successful. I am talking presidents. Until you get to the extreme success level you see weird deviations, but people who run for president and get elected are religious.
You start off by saying both are assumptions, now your claiming their statistics? No statistically neither are true, if people in law schools had generally higher IQ's than the job market would be in a very different situation since law schools would have higher standards and less graduates every year, kind of like med schools. I'm not even going to dignify the idea that religious people have statistically lower IQ's than atheists by arguing with you, anybody with half a brain can tell how dumb a suggestion that is.sinfiery wrote:Statistically, they are both most definitely true.
First of all IQ =/= education, there are plenty of UG degrees you can get by being good at regurgitation. Secondly hard sciences may attract more of a secular crowd than other fields, but that in no way makes it a field that requires a higher level of intelligence than all others.Extremely successful has a weaker correlation with IQ than does someone in Academia/Scientist/etc
2 is hilariously false, but strangely true about religion.bk187 wrote:1. Who cares?
2. It's not like law students try and push their beliefs on fellow law students all the time.
Religion, atheism, politics, it happens with everything. I would hope that by grad school and later in the job world it falls off a bit though...Desert Fox wrote:2 is hilariously false, but strangely true about religion.bk187 wrote:1. Who cares?
2. It's not like law students try and push their beliefs on fellow law students all the time.
I meant religion specific beliefs. Not sure why "I LOVE TO ARGUE" doesn't bleed over into religious debates.Desert Fox wrote:2 is hilariously false, but strangely true about religion.bk187 wrote:1. Who cares?
2. It's not like law students try and push their beliefs on fellow law students all the time.
They are assumptions because I didn't provide data. I still haven't provided data and I will not. I know I am right, and I have no motivation to do the leg work. Sorry.John Mill wrote: You start off by saying both are assumptions, now your claiming their statistics?
This argument doesn't deserve a response. It's absolutely terrible.No statistically neither are true, if people in law schools had generally higher IQ's than the job market would be in a very different situation since law schools would have higher standards and less graduates every year, kind of like med schools.
Okay. If you say so. Guess I'll go buy a half of a brain.I'm not even going to dignify the idea that religious people have statistically lower IQ's than atheists by arguing with you, anybody with half a brain can tell how dumb a suggestion that is.
Statistically, they have higher IQs in hard sciences than society in general. The same is true for people in Academica. IE: Professors.First of all IQ =/= education, there are plenty of UG degrees you can get by being good at regurgitation. Secondly hard sciences may attract more of a secular crowd than other fields, but that in no way makes it a field that requires a higher level of intelligence than all others.
If I am making myself sound like an idiot, then I am absolutely okay with being an idiot.Your making yourself sound like the same kind of idiot I mentioned in my first post, just drop it and quit while your ahead. If you want to think that your own view is the "superior" one and people who believe otherwise have lower IQs then I can't stop you, but that kind of arrogant and uneducated attitude won't get you very far in law, or anywhere else in life really.
So your claiming something is "most definitely statistically true" meanwhile you don't have any statistics to back it up. That's not the way to be taken seriously.sinfiery wrote:They are assumptions because I didn't provide data. I still haven't provided data and I will not. I know I am right, and I have no motivation to do the leg work. Sorry.
Actually its a widely accepted fact. TTTs flooding the market with graduates because they will take anybody who can click the 'agree' button on a loan application, and making a five digit surplus in new lawyers to legal jobs every year.This argument doesn't deserve a response. It's absolutely terrible.
Your making the comparison between hard sciences and the rest of society, what I said was that hard sciences do not have an IQ advantage compared to every other graduate field. And last I checked there are no statistics that say academia is more secular than religious, more liberal maybe, but there are plenty of liberals that prescribe to one religion or another.Statistically, they have higher IQs in hard sciences than society in general. The same is true for people in Academica. IE: Professors.
IQ is greater for students with PHDs in hard sciences and for professors than the general public.
Your just acting like a troll now...If I am making myself sound like an idiot, then I am absolutely okay with being an idiot.
I won't drop it. Ever. You can cease to respond, and that will cause me to be quiet.