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One more person whining about low gpa
Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:26 pm
by teflon123
Sadly, it applies to me.
Profile: Mechanical Engineer/Top 10 program (in category of schools that don't offer PhDs)/ Undergrad GPA: 3.06/ Currently in grad school for MS in Mechanical Engineering/ Haven't taken LSAT yet
Aspirations: Want to attend T-14 school (Michigan); want to pursue a career in Corporate/Entrepreneurial Law (Yes, I actually want to get a JD to become a lawyer, not to add inches); I have a strong drive to pursue this career, and I am not in it just for the money (although I am very conscious of the student loans I'd have to take to get through law school)
Advice on LSAT preparation and a doze of reality would be appreciated.
I realize that with my current status (even if I score well on the LSAT) the admission decision makers at UofM would probably take a pencil and start pushing my folder towards the edge of their table and into the trash can. Is there anything I can do to get a little closer to a letter of acceptance? Also, do engineers really get a bit more consideration from admissions, or is that just a pile of steaming bs?
Other random stuff that may or may not make a difference:
Over 2 years of internship experience at a tier 1 auto supplier
Currently am working as a researcher
Involved in several ugrad ECs, climbed the ladder to President/Director in all activities
Long-time member and leader in school's Entrepreneur group (climbed the ladder there too to prez)
Your turn to type...
Re: One more person whining about low gpa
Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:29 pm
by 20130312
URM?
If not, then Mich is a gigantic reach for you.
Re: One more person whining about low gpa
Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:34 pm
by teflon123
Minority, but Idk whether or not UofM would consider me to be one.
Re: One more person whining about low gpa
Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:37 pm
by WhiteGuy5
teflon123 wrote:Minority, but Idk whether or not UofM would consider me to be one.
Minority (URM) as far as law schools are concerned = BLACK (not North African), Hispanics (except Cubans), and Native Americans (usually have to be registered with a tribe, etc).
If you don't belong to one of those narrowly defined groups, your are NOT an Under Represented Minority for law school, and will not get any sort of extra boost as a result.
Re: One more person whining about low gpa
Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:37 pm
by 20130312
African American, Mexican American, Native American, Puerto Rican?
Re: One more person whining about low gpa
Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:38 pm
by teflon123
nope
Re: One more person whining about low gpa
Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:41 pm
by 180asBreath
I got the GPA (>3.85) but I don't got the LSAT (>173)... yet.
Re: One more person whining about low gpa
Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:44 pm
by 20130312
Re: One more person whining about low gpa
Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:44 pm
by FryBreadPower
teflon123 wrote:Sadly, it applies to me.
Profile: Mechanical Engineer/Top 10 program (in category of schools that don't offer PhDs)/ Undergrad GPA: 3.06/ Currently in grad school for MS in Mechanical Engineering/ Haven't taken LSAT yet
Aspirations: Want to attend T-14 school (Michigan); want to pursue a career in Corporate/Entrepreneurial Law (Yes, I actually want to get a JD to become a lawyer, not to add inches); I have a strong drive to pursue this career, and I am not in it just for the money (although I am very conscious of the student loans I'd have to take to get through law school)
Advice on LSAT preparation and a doze of reality would be appreciated.
I realize that with my current status (even if I score well on the LSAT) the admission decision makers at UofM would probably take a pencil and start pushing my folder towards the edge of their table and into the trash can. Is there anything I can do to get a little closer to a letter of acceptance? Also, do engineers really get a bit more consideration from admissions, or is that just a pile of steaming bs?
Other random stuff that may or may not make a difference:
Over 2 years of internship experience at a tier 1 auto supplier
Currently am working as a researcher
Involved in several ugrad ECs, climbed the ladder to President/Director in all activities
Long-time member and leader in school's Entrepreneur group (climbed the ladder there too to prez)
Your turn to type...
Score as close to a 180 as possible. You are going to need an ENORMOUS LSAT; even then it is a shot in the dark at best.
Re: One more person whining about low gpa
Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:45 pm
by FryBreadPower
I mean this in the nicest way possible -- How?
Re: One more person whining about low gpa
Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:46 pm
by kennethellenparcell
I think that if you get a high enough LSAT, you can get in. I'm talking >175. However, this will not be easy.
Re: One more person whining about low gpa
Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:50 pm
by teflon123
Does ED make a big difference?
Re: One more person whining about low gpa
Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:51 pm
by FryBreadPower
teflon123 wrote:Does ED make a big difference?
It'll help. Also, write a dynamite PS and Why Mich? Essay
Re: One more person whining about low gpa
Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:55 pm
by 20130312
FryBreadPower wrote:
I mean this in the nicest way possible -- How?
Did you read their profiles? One is literally a saint.
Either that or trolls.
Re: One more person whining about low gpa
Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 7:10 pm
by 83947368
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Re: One more person whining about low gpa
Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 9:52 pm
by Veyron
Considering your highly technical UG degree, I think they might give you the benefit of the doubt if you were above the 75% for LSAT score. Think of the LSAT as sort of proving that you could have gotten a higher GPA in an easier major. Besides, if you exceed their median LSAT, they don't really take a hit by taking you anyway.
P.S. You're far more likely to get into NW than Michigan considering your background. I would think that a 171-2 would be enough to pull it off.
Re: One more person whining about low gpa
Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 9:30 pm
by crossarmant
Work Experience. Finish up your MS, work in the field for a few years making bank as an engineer, save up to cushion the blow of LS expenses and apply a few years down the road. Not only will it help financially, but it'll help your application to have real experience on there, not just internships and research.
Re: One more person whining about low gpa
Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 9:32 pm
by johansantana21
Honestly, seems like Mich will be a huge reach no matter what you score.
NW seems like a good bet with a 171+ though.
Re: One more person whining about low gpa
Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 11:30 am
by chem
teflon123 wrote:Sadly, it applies to me.
Profile: Mechanical Engineer/Top 10 program (in category of schools that don't offer PhDs)/ Undergrad GPA: 3.06/ Currently in grad school for MS in Mechanical Engineering/ Haven't taken LSAT yet
Aspirations: Want to attend T-14 school (Michigan); want to pursue a career in Corporate/Entrepreneurial Law (Yes, I actually want to get a JD to become a lawyer, not to add inches); I have a strong drive to pursue this career, and I am not in it just for the money (although I am very conscious of the student loans I'd have to take to get through law school)
Advice on LSAT preparation and a doze of reality would be appreciated.
I realize that with my current status (even if I score well on the LSAT) the admission decision makers at UofM would probably take a pencil and start pushing my folder towards the edge of their table and into the trash can. Is there anything I can do to get a little closer to a letter of acceptance? Also, do engineers really get a bit more consideration from admissions, or is that just a pile of steaming bs?
Other random stuff that may or may not make a difference:
Over 2 years of internship experience at a tier 1 auto supplier
Currently am working as a researcher
Involved in several ugrad ECs, climbed the ladder to President/Director in all activities
Long-time member and leader in school's Entrepreneur group (climbed the ladder there too to prez)
Your turn to type...
Some work experience will definitely help. Also, I could see you writing this post like you would solve an engineering problem (Problem:, Givens:, Equations: Solution:)