One more person whining about low gpa Forum

[teflon123]

Sadly, it applies to me.

Profile: Mechanical Engineer/Top 10 program (in category of schools that don't offer PhDs)/ Undergrad GPA: 3.06/ Currently in grad school for MS in Mechanical Engineering/ Haven't taken LSAT yet

Aspirations: Want to attend T-14 school (Michigan); want to pursue a career in Corporate/Entrepreneurial Law (Yes, I actually want to get a JD to become a lawyer, not to add inches); I have a strong drive to pursue this career, and I am not in it just for the money (although I am very conscious of the student loans I'd have to take to get through law school)

Advice on LSAT preparation and a doze of reality would be appreciated.

I realize that with my current status (even if I score well on the LSAT) the admission decision makers at UofM would probably take a pencil and start pushing my folder towards the edge of their table and into the trash can. Is there anything I can do to get a little closer to a letter of acceptance? Also, do engineers really get a bit more consideration from admissions, or is that just a pile of steaming bs?

Other random stuff that may or may not make a difference:
Over 2 years of internship experience at a tier 1 auto supplier
Currently am working as a researcher
Involved in several ugrad ECs, climbed the ladder to President/Director in all activities
Long-time member and leader in school's Entrepreneur group (climbed the ladder there too to prez)

Your turn to type...

[20130312]

URM?

If not, then Mich is a gigantic reach for you.

[teflon123]

Minority, but Idk whether or not UofM would consider me to be one.

[WhiteGuy5]

Minority, but Idk whether or not UofM would consider me to be one.

Minority (URM) as far as law schools are concerned = BLACK (not North African), Hispanics (except Cubans), and Native Americans (usually have to be registered with a tribe, etc).

If you don't belong to one of those narrowly defined groups, your are NOT an Under Represented Minority for law school, and will not get any sort of extra boost as a result.

[20130312]

African American, Mexican American, Native American, Puerto Rican?

[teflon123]

nope

[180asBreath]

I got the GPA (>3.85) but I don't got the LSAT (>173)... yet.

[20130312]

It will be tough. Here are three non-URMs from last year who made it into Mich with sub 3.1 GPAs:

http://lawschoolnumbers.com/inchristalone/jd

http://lawschoolnumbers.com/JerriBlank/jd

http://lawschoolnumbers.com/booboohead/jd

[FryBreadPower]

Sadly, it applies to me.

Profile: Mechanical Engineer/Top 10 program (in category of schools that don't offer PhDs)/ Undergrad GPA: 3.06/ Currently in grad school for MS in Mechanical Engineering/ Haven't taken LSAT yet

Aspirations: Want to attend T-14 school (Michigan); want to pursue a career in Corporate/Entrepreneurial Law (Yes, I actually want to get a JD to become a lawyer, not to add inches); I have a strong drive to pursue this career, and I am not in it just for the money (although I am very conscious of the student loans I'd have to take to get through law school)

Advice on LSAT preparation and a doze of reality would be appreciated.

I realize that with my current status (even if I score well on the LSAT) the admission decision makers at UofM would probably take a pencil and start pushing my folder towards the edge of their table and into the trash can. Is there anything I can do to get a little closer to a letter of acceptance? Also, do engineers really get a bit more consideration from admissions, or is that just a pile of steaming bs?

Other random stuff that may or may not make a difference:
Over 2 years of internship experience at a tier 1 auto supplier
Currently am working as a researcher
Involved in several ugrad ECs, climbed the ladder to President/Director in all activities
Long-time member and leader in school's Entrepreneur group (climbed the ladder there too to prez)

Your turn to type...

Score as close to a 180 as possible. You are going to need an ENORMOUS LSAT; even then it is a shot in the dark at best.

[FryBreadPower]

It will be tough. Here are three non-URMs from last year who made it into Mich with sub 3.1 GPAs:

http://lawschoolnumbers.com/inchristalone/jd

http://lawschoolnumbers.com/JerriBlank/jd

http://lawschoolnumbers.com/booboohead/jd

I mean this in the nicest way possible -- How?

[kennethellenparcell]

I think that if you get a high enough LSAT, you can get in. I'm talking >175. However, this will not be easy.

[teflon123]

Does ED make a big difference?

[FryBreadPower]

Does ED make a big difference?

It'll help. Also, write a dynamite PS and Why Mich? Essay

[20130312]

It will be tough. Here are three non-URMs from last year who made it into Mich with sub 3.1 GPAs:

http://lawschoolnumbers.com/inchristalone/jd

http://lawschoolnumbers.com/JerriBlank/jd

http://lawschoolnumbers.com/booboohead/jd

I mean this in the nicest way possible -- How?

Did you read their profiles? One is literally a saint.

Either that or trolls.

[83947368]

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[Veyron]

Considering your highly technical UG degree, I think they might give you the benefit of the doubt if you were above the 75% for LSAT score. Think of the LSAT as sort of proving that you could have gotten a higher GPA in an easier major. Besides, if you exceed their median LSAT, they don't really take a hit by taking you anyway.

P.S. You're far more likely to get into NW than Michigan considering your background. I would think that a 171-2 would be enough to pull it off.

[crossarmant]

Work Experience. Finish up your MS, work in the field for a few years making bank as an engineer, save up to cushion the blow of LS expenses and apply a few years down the road. Not only will it help financially, but it'll help your application to have real experience on there, not just internships and research.

[johansantana21]

Honestly, seems like Mich will be a huge reach no matter what you score.

NW seems like a good bet with a 171+ though.

[chem]

Sadly, it applies to me.

Profile: Mechanical Engineer/Top 10 program (in category of schools that don't offer PhDs)/ Undergrad GPA: 3.06/ Currently in grad school for MS in Mechanical Engineering/ Haven't taken LSAT yet

Aspirations: Want to attend T-14 school (Michigan); want to pursue a career in Corporate/Entrepreneurial Law (Yes, I actually want to get a JD to become a lawyer, not to add inches); I have a strong drive to pursue this career, and I am not in it just for the money (although I am very conscious of the student loans I'd have to take to get through law school)

Advice on LSAT preparation and a doze of reality would be appreciated.

I realize that with my current status (even if I score well on the LSAT) the admission decision makers at UofM would probably take a pencil and start pushing my folder towards the edge of their table and into the trash can. Is there anything I can do to get a little closer to a letter of acceptance? Also, do engineers really get a bit more consideration from admissions, or is that just a pile of steaming bs?

Other random stuff that may or may not make a difference:
Over 2 years of internship experience at a tier 1 auto supplier
Currently am working as a researcher
Involved in several ugrad ECs, climbed the ladder to President/Director in all activities
Long-time member and leader in school's Entrepreneur group (climbed the ladder there too to prez)

Your turn to type...

Some work experience will definitely help. Also, I could see you writing this post like you would solve an engineering problem (Problem:, Givens:, Equations: Solution:)