Clerkship Externship/Internship Forum

[caputlupinum]

What is difference for externing for a judge and clerking for a judge?

[frost]

You extern when you're a law student, so you get credits for your externship either during the semesters or the summer. A law clerk works for a judge after graduation as a full-time job for 1-2 years.

[caputlupinum]

You extern when you're a law student, so you get credits for your externship either during the semesters or the summer. A law clerk works for a judge after graduation as a full-time job for 1-2 years.

Right. Clerks are salaried full-time, employees in the judge's chambers. They are hired through an annual, extremely competitive process, and have a JD degree. Externs are part- or full-time, unpaid non-employees. They are selected through a variety of means, none of which are even remotely as competitive as clerkship hiring. Externs generally are law students, and thus do not have a JD (yet).

Law firms pay huge bonuses for clerkships ($50k for one year; $70k for two years at the largest firms for most Art. III clerkships); they pay nothing for externships. Clerkships stay on your bio throughout your career; externships never appear in this fashion.

why do law firm bios say

She also served as a judicial intern for the Honorable Elizabeth A. Jenkins, District Court for the Middle District of Florida, and for the Honorable Chris Altenbernd, Florida Second District Court of Appeal.

He also served as a judicial intern for the Honorable Judge Covington-Hernandez, U.S. District Court for the Middle District of Florida.

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[bdubs]

You extern when you're a law student, so you get credits for your externship either during the semesters or the summer. A law clerk works for a judge after graduation as a full-time job for 1-2 years.

Right. Clerks are salaried full-time, employees in the judge's chambers. They are hired through an annual, extremely competitive process, and have a JD degree. Externs are part- or full-time, unpaid non-employees. They are selected through a variety of means, none of which are even remotely as competitive as clerkship hiring. Externs generally are law students, and thus do not have a JD (yet).

Law firms pay huge bonuses for clerkships ($50k for one year; $70k for two years at the largest firms for most Art. III clerkships); they pay nothing for externships. Clerkships stay on your bio throughout your career; externships never appear in this fashion.

why do law firm bios say

She also served as a judicial intern for the Honorable Elizabeth A. Jenkins, District Court for the Middle District of Florida, and for the Honorable Chris Altenbernd, Florida Second District Court of Appeal.

He also served as a judicial intern for the Honorable Judge Covington-Hernandez, U.S. District Court for the Middle District of Florida.

???

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Externship

[pkt63]

...namely, that externships do not matter.

at all? as in doing an externship during law school is moot in the estimation of interviewers at OCIP and etc.?

I realize you are talking about once you are out in the "real world", but I wanted to find out how inclusive your statement was, as I thought an externship my 1L summer, or 2L spring might add something nice in terms of job prospects and speaking to research experience/ability.