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fatduck wrote:not really
I think it'll help if you make sure to tell them you'll pursue IP law. Schools want employed grads. IP grads have an easier time with that.pnguyen9 wrote:i've been reading a lot of threads and i feel like there have been mixed responses on whether or not law schools actually care about majors. my gpa isn't too great and i wanted to know if it'll even matter that i have a background in engr.
maybe. it's going to be very slight, if anything. i personally have a BSEE, my PS was focused on patent law, and i got into every school i was supposed to get into, none that i wasn't.Borhas wrote:I think it'll help if you make sure to tell them you'll pursue IP law. Schools want employed grads. IP grads have an easier time with that.pnguyen9 wrote:i've been reading a lot of threads and i feel like there have been mixed responses on whether or not law schools actually care about majors. my gpa isn't too great and i wanted to know if it'll even matter that i have a background in engr.
ehh you're probably rightfatduck wrote:maybe. it's going to be very slight, if anything. i personally have a BSEE, my PS was focused on patent law, and i got into every school i was supposed to get into, none that i wasn't.Borhas wrote:I think it'll help if you make sure to tell them you'll pursue IP law. Schools want employed grads. IP grads have an easier time with that.pnguyen9 wrote:i've been reading a lot of threads and i feel like there have been mixed responses on whether or not law schools actually care about majors. my gpa isn't too great and i wanted to know if it'll even matter that i have a background in engr.
Show them to me.rinkrat19 wrote:There are plenty of 4.0 engineers out there.
androstan wrote:Show them to me.rinkrat19 wrote:There are plenty of 4.0 engineers out there.
I had several of them in my classes. I got a 3.56 (meh for law school, of course) and I was neither the hardest worker nor the most naturally gifted. If more than half of my grades were A's (without, frankly, trying all that hard), it's not a huge leap to think that people smarter and more dedicated than me could get all A's.androstan wrote:Show them to me.rinkrat19 wrote:There are plenty of 4.0 engineers out there.
+1 maybe at crap state college of dentistry and civil engineering. I think generally the better the engineering school, the worse the average engineering GPA is. See, e.g., GT and Illinois.pnguyen9 wrote:androstan wrote:Show them to me.rinkrat19 wrote:There are plenty of 4.0 engineers out there.
Agreed. About 75% of the people who started out in my major switched to something else (because of difficulty), which seems pretty high to me.
At that point, you knew it was over. You should have leaned forward and backhanded the interviewer. Lean back as if nothing happens, they say what the hell, and you say that's what engineering does to people. It's like one to two years of getting slapped in the face when you're not expecting it, followed by two to three years of expecting the degradation.Big Shrimpin wrote:This story has nothing to do with LS admissions, but I thought it would be funny here as food for though as engineers gear-up for OCI.
In a screening interview, I was asked a peculiar question...
**interviewer looks at my resume, searchingly**
**looks up**...**says, "I see here you were an engineer"**
*Yes, that's correct!*
**hmmm, 3.4x GPA, huh?** (for anonymity, not my GPA, but in the ballpark)
*Indeed*...*palms start sweating*
**So, hmm, no offense...but, um, that's a pretty bad GPA...what happened?**
True story. I wanted to palm --> face, but I laughed it off and explained it away. To be sure, however, I didn't get a CB.
True. It was actually sort of a relief, since I knew that I didn't really have to try anymore. At that point, I just wanted to save some face and style on the interviewer for being such a jerk. In essence, I proceeded to show him/her, through implication, that I was glad to be wasting his/her time, which could have been spent on someone more "qualified" than me. 95% of OCI interviewers are great, it's just that 5%...there's not enough headroom to look down at interviewees in hotel-suite ceilings when you're sitting atop a giant horse.stratocophic wrote:+1 maybe at crap state college of dentistry and civil engineering. I think generally the better the engineering school, the worse the average engineering GPA is. See, e.g., GT and Illinois.pnguyen9 wrote:androstan wrote:Show them to me.rinkrat19 wrote:There are plenty of 4.0 engineers out there.
Agreed. About 75% of the people who started out in my major switched to something else (because of difficulty), which seems pretty high to me.At that point, you knew it was over. You should have leaned forward and backhanded the interviewer. Lean back as if nothing happens, they say what the hell, and you say that's what engineering does to people. It's like one to two years of getting slapped in the face when you're not expecting it, followed by two to three years of expecting the degradationBig Shrimpin wrote:This story has nothing to do with LS admissions, but I thought it would be funny here as food for though as engineers gear-up for OCI.
In a screening interview, I was asked a peculiar question...
**interviewer looks at my resume, searchingly**
**looks up**...**says, "I see here you were an engineer"**
*Yes, that's correct!*
**hmmm, 3.4x GPA, huh?** (for anonymity, not my GPA, but in the ballpark)
*Indeed*...*palms start sweating*
**So, hmm, no offense...but, um, that's a pretty bad GPA...what happened?**
True story. I wanted to palm --> face, but I laughed it off and explained it away. To be sure, however, I didn't get a CB.
AwesomeBig Shrimpin wrote:True. It was actually sort of a relief, since I knew that I didn't really have to try anymore. At that point, I just wanted to save some face and style on the interviewer for being such a jerk. In essence, I proceeded to show him/her, through implication, that I was glad to be wasting his/her time, which could have been spent on someone more "qualified" than me. 95% of OCI interviewers are great, it's just that 5%...there's not enough headroom to look down at interviewees in hotel-suite ceilings when you're sitting atop a giant horse.stratocophic wrote:+1 maybe at crap state college of dentistry and civil engineering. I think generally the better the engineering school, the worse the average engineering GPA is. See, e.g., GT and Illinois.pnguyen9 wrote:androstan wrote:
Show them to me.
Agreed. About 75% of the people who started out in my major switched to something else (because of difficulty), which seems pretty high to me.At that point, you knew it was over. You should have leaned forward and backhanded the interviewer. Lean back as if nothing happens, they say what the hell, and you say that's what engineering does to people. It's like one to two years of getting slapped in the face when you're not expecting it, followed by two to three years of expecting the degradationBig Shrimpin wrote:This story has nothing to do with LS admissions, but I thought it would be funny here as food for though as engineers gear-up for OCI.
In a screening interview, I was asked a peculiar question...
**interviewer looks at my resume, searchingly**
**looks up**...**says, "I see here you were an engineer"**
*Yes, that's correct!*
**hmmm, 3.4x GPA, huh?** (for anonymity, not my GPA, but in the ballpark)
*Indeed*...*palms start sweating*
**So, hmm, no offense...but, um, that's a pretty bad GPA...what happened?**
True story. I wanted to palm --> face, but I laughed it off and explained it away. To be sure, however, I didn't get a CB.
I guess everyone's experience is different. We had a huge portion of our sophormore class switch majors. Then, come junior year, there were many students accustomed to always getting straight A's their whole life crying about several B's. Other students students were thrilled just to pass with a C. Several should have switched majors and needed actual F's staring them in the face to get them to try something else.rinkrat19 wrote:I had several of them in my classes. I got a 3.56 (meh for law school, of course) and I was neither the hardest worker nor the most naturally gifted. If more than half of my grades were A's (without, frankly, trying all that hard), it's not a huge leap to think that people smarter and more dedicated than me could get all A's.androstan wrote:Show them to me.rinkrat19 wrote:There are plenty of 4.0 engineers out there.
Great. I can't wait to explain my UG 2.x at OCI.Big Shrimpin wrote:This story has nothing to do with LS admissions, but I thought it would be funny here as food for though as engineers gear-up for OCI.
In a screening interview, I was asked a peculiar question...
**interviewer looks at my resume, searchingly**
**looks up**...**says, "I see here you were an engineer"**
*Yes, that's correct!*
**hmmm, 3.4x GPA, huh?** (for anonymity, not my GPA, but in the ballpark)
*Indeed*...*palms start sweating*
**So, hmm, no offense...but, um, that's a pretty bad GPA...what happened?**
True story. I wanted to palm --> face, but I laughed it off and explained it away. To be sure, however, I didn't get a CB.
I was near the average GPA for my engineering school, but our average was in line with the university average, and my GPA's far from great... maybe the university itself has more to do with than the strength of the engineering program? I dunnoPatriot1208 wrote:FWIW, I go to a school that has a pretty good engineering program with a couple programs ranked in the top ten and the average graduating GPA for engineers was on par with the university overall.
I was actually told that the engineering program had an average graduating gpa just above a 3.4 and the university as a whole is around 3.33 or something like that. I mean, maybe it is just a tighter group or smarter kids, but it's hard to really attribute it to that without further analysis.stratocophic wrote:I was near the average GPA for my engineering school, but our average was in line with the university average, and my GPA's far from great... maybe the university itself has more to do with than the strength of the engineering program? I dunnoPatriot1208 wrote:FWIW, I go to a school that has a pretty good engineering program with a couple programs ranked in the top ten and the average graduating GPA for engineers was on par with the university overall.