Top Law Schools

Posted Feb 1, 2011 2:40 AM CST

ColomboHeat wrote:

Posted Feb 1, 2011 2:40 AM CST

was this article written from a time machine?

Desert Fox wrote:If you can't get into a t18 school you better be going for free.

Desert Fox wrote:If you can't get into a t18 school you better be going for free.

bk187 wrote:

Desert Fox wrote:If you can't get into a t18 school you better be going for free.

Feeling generous today are we?

NoJob wrote:
I would say HYS instead. And, even HYS people are struggling.

dresden doll wrote:wow, groundbreaking insight. This sure hasn't been said before.

NoJob wrote:

dresden doll wrote:wow, groundbreaking insight. This sure hasn't been said before.

Their message is getting validation.

dresden doll wrote:

NoJob wrote:

dresden doll wrote:wow, groundbreaking insight. This sure hasn't been said before.

Their message is getting validation.

Well, no kidding. Not that I needed ABA to confirm anything for me - I go to a T6 and have classmates without jobs.

My point is that you're not telling us anything new. Anyone with half a brain has known that economy has gone down the drain for a little while now.

NoJob wrote: I think you are missing the point. It is not the economy. The legal services industry is and has been in a state of contraction since before the recession. And, things will only get worse with more and more legal outsourcing.

Desert Fox wrote:

NoJob wrote: I think you are missing the point. It is not the economy. The legal services industry is and has been in a state of contraction since before the recession. And, things will only get worse with more and more legal outsourcing.

The big firms were doing their all time best in 2007. Shit law has always(well a long time at least) been shit law and shall always be.

Marionberry wrote:

Desert Fox wrote:

NoJob wrote: I think you are missing the point. It is not the economy. The legal services industry is and has been in a state of contraction since before the recession. And, things will only get worse with more and more legal outsourcing.

The big firms were doing their all time best in 2007. Shit law has always(well a long time at least) been shit law and shall always be.

So, you're saying that the shitlaw market is gonna be okay? DWIdefensesecure?

WinterIsComing wrote:These topics are a joke The fear mongering that the bloggers foment would help if people like the OP and other "OMG no jobz!" people took the message to heart, and instead of posting here, they made the wise decision--to not attend law school.

The bottom 60% of students at every law school, maybe deeper in lower tier schools, do not merit jobs. They went to law school out of confusion or under the false belief that a degree means you get a job or, worse, they thought they could hack it but couldn't. A degree does NOT mean a job, and that is true in every single field. If you averaged the incoming class size for law schools, I'm guessing it hits around 215 or so people for each of over 100 institutions. Not accounting for dropouts and those who wise up in the process or experience some self-discovery, that is around 21,500 potential, incoming lawyers. The job market supply for that number does not exist on a yearly basis. Demand exceeds supply here. Therefore, the obvious result produces a large portion of people out their complaining. The vituperative remarks of self-entitled prats do not deserve publicity for any other means than to dissuade those ignorant enough not to research law school or who believe a degree demands reward.

Though, I wonder how the retirement of Baby Boomers will affect this number, but it is hard to gauge considering there are successful 80 year old lawyers. Whole different stream of thought there.

It's sad these posts keep appearing.

WinterIsComing wrote:These topics are a joke The fear mongering that the bloggers foment would help if people like the OP and other "OMG no jobz!" people took the message to heart, and instead of posting here, they made the wise decision--to not attend law school.

The bottom 60% of students at every law school, maybe deeper in lower tier schools, do not merit jobs. They went to law school out of confusion or under the false belief that a degree means you get a job or, worse, they thought they could hack it but couldn't. A degree does NOT mean a job, and that is true in every single field. If you averaged the incoming class size for law schools, I'm guessing it hits around 215 or so people for each of over 100 institutions. Not accounting for dropouts and those who wise up in the process or experience some self-discovery, that is around 21,500 potential, incoming lawyers. The job market supply for that number does not exist on a yearly basis. Demand exceeds supply here. Therefore, the obvious result produces a large portion of people out their complaining. The vituperative remarks of self-entitled prats do not deserve publicity for any other means than to dissuade those ignorant enough not to research law school or who believe a degree demands reward.

Though, I wonder how the retirement of Baby Boomers will affect this number, but it is hard to gauge considering there are successful 80 year old lawyers. Whole different stream of thought there.

It's sad these posts keep appearing.

Desert Fox wrote:

bk187 wrote:

Desert Fox wrote:If you can't get into a t18 school you better be going for free.

Feeling generous today are we?

UCLA, USC, and Vandy are iffy but are within the realm of "not totally fucked."

NoJob wrote:
I would say HYS instead. And, even HYS people are struggling.

Depends on the level of risk one is willing to take. Bottom t14 has decent odds of getting you big law, fed gov, or something worthwhile.

34 percent of starting salaries ranged between $40,000 and $65,000

Bildungsroman wrote:
You've become so much more optimistic/congenial (relatively speaking) now that you've got decent grades under your belt.

WinterIsComing wrote:

Desert Fox wrote:

WinterIsComing wrote:These topics are a joke The fear mongering that the bloggers foment would help if people like the OP and other "OMG no jobz!" people took the message to heart, and instead of posting here, they made the wise decision--to not attend law school.

The bottom 60% of students at every law school, maybe deeper in lower tier schools, do not merit jobs. They went to law school out of confusion or under the false belief that a degree means you get a job or, worse, they thought they could hack it but couldn't. A degree does NOT mean a job, and that is true in every single field. If you averaged the incoming class size for law schools, I'm guessing it hits around 215 or so people for each of over 100 institutions. Not accounting for dropouts and those who wise up in the process or experience some self-discovery, that is around 21,500 potential, incoming lawyers. The job market supply for that number does not exist on a yearly basis. Demand exceeds supply here. Therefore, the obvious result produces a large portion of people out their complaining. The vituperative remarks of self-entitled prats do not deserve publicity for any other means than to dissuade those ignorant enough not to research law school or who believe a degree demands reward.

Though, I wonder how the retirement of Baby Boomers will affect this number, but it is hard to gauge considering there are successful 80 year old lawyers. Whole different stream of thought there.

It's sad these posts keep appearing.

The bolded is retarded.

I was trying to be generous.

dresden doll wrote:

NoJob wrote:

dresden doll wrote:wow, groundbreaking insight. This sure hasn't been said before.

Their message is getting validation.

Well, no kidding. Not that I needed ABA to confirm anything for me - I go to a T6 and have classmates without jobs.

My point is that you're not telling us anything new. Anyone with half a brain has known that economy has gone down the drain for a little while now.

Desert Fox wrote:

WinterIsComing wrote:These topics are a joke The fear mongering that the bloggers foment would help if people like the OP and other "OMG no jobz!" people took the message to heart, and instead of posting here, they made the wise decision--to not attend law school.

The bottom 60% of students at every law school, maybe deeper in lower tier schools, do not merit jobs. They went to law school out of confusion or under the false belief that a degree means you get a job or, worse, they thought they could hack it but couldn't. A degree does NOT mean a job, and that is true in every single field. If you averaged the incoming class size for law schools, I'm guessing it hits around 215 or so people for each of over 100 institutions. Not accounting for dropouts and those who wise up in the process or experience some self-discovery, that is around 21,500 potential, incoming lawyers. The job market supply for that number does not exist on a yearly basis. Demand exceeds supply here. Therefore, the obvious result produces a large portion of people out their complaining. The vituperative remarks of self-entitled prats do not deserve publicity for any other means than to dissuade those ignorant enough not to research law school or who believe a degree demands reward.

Though, I wonder how the retirement of Baby Boomers will affect this number, but it is hard to gauge considering there are successful 80 year old lawyers. Whole different stream of thought there.

It's sad these posts keep appearing.

The bolded is retarded.

WinterIsComing wrote:out their complaining

WinterIsComing wrote:vituperative