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1. People looked at where they wanted to work and picked from the strongest schools in that region.shemori wrote:How did People Rank Law Schools? and also Why does Bar passage count for only two percent of overall rank.Isnt that the main objective of law school?
Brian Leiter wrote:Reputations die hard and are long in being born-especially among attorneys. In 1970, the top five law schools were Harvard, Yale, and Michigan, with Columbia, Stanford, and Chicago fighting it out for the remaining two spots. Penn was just on the cusp of the "top five," Virginia was clearly top ten, and then some mix of Duke, Northwestern, Texas, and Berkeley fought it out for the remaining top ten spots. Cornell was surely top 15, NYU might have been top 15, Vanderbilt was surely top 20, and Georgetown might have been top 20. UCLA was a brand new law school, just a half-dozen years old.
Always thought it was Yale, Harvard, Columbiamapes wrote:like this!
yale, harvard, michigan
everyone else
In a word, no. Except for the very worst law schools, bar passage isn't an issue. Just about every school ranked T2 or better has virtually all its graduates pass the bar on their first or second try.shemori wrote:How did People Rank Law Schools? and also Why does Bar passage count for only two percent of overall rank.Isnt that the main objective of law school?
Nope, definitely Michigan. No joke, my grandpa told me that it was top two or three when he was looking to go to law school.ajmanyjah wrote:Always thought it was Yale, Harvard, Columbiamapes wrote:like this!
yale, harvard, michigan
everyone else
Yeah. The (relative) fall of UMich and the (relative) rise of NYU are really the only things that have changed in the past 30 years.albusdumbledore wrote:Nope, definitely Michigan. No joke, my grandpa told me that it was top two or three when he was looking to go to law school.ajmanyjah wrote:Always thought it was Yale, Harvard, Columbiamapes wrote:like this!
yale, harvard, michigan
everyone else
I suppose my East Coast bias showed therealbusdumbledore wrote:Nope, definitely Michigan. No joke, my grandpa told me that it was top two or three when he was looking to go to law school.ajmanyjah wrote:Always thought it was Yale, Harvard, Columbiamapes wrote:like this!
yale, harvard, michigan
everyone else
ajmanyjah wrote:I suppose my East Coast bias showed therealbusdumbledore wrote:Nope, definitely Michigan. No joke, my grandpa told me that it was top two or three when he was looking to go to law school.ajmanyjah wrote:Always thought it was Yale, Harvard, Columbiamapes wrote:like this!
yale, harvard, michigan
everyone else
http://www.leiterrankings.com/jobs/2009 ... hing.shtmlCirca 1960, for example, it would have been common to think of Yale, Harvard, and Columbia as clearly the top three law schools, with Penn, Michigan, and perhaps Chicago just a notch below. Stanford rose to prominence during the 1950s and 1960s, and Chicago's competitive position improved significantly with the rise of law-and-economics in the 1970s, where it was the primary innovator. NYU and Georgetown both became far more prominent schools starting in the 1970s as well. (You can get some sense of the small reputational shifts since the 1970s from this data.) Columbia slipped out of the "top 3" during the 1960s, Penn slipped out of "the top five" by the 1970s, and Michigan did the same in the 1990s.
http://leiterlawschool.typepad.com/leit ... hings.htmlFrom the 1973 Blau-Marguiles survey of law schools Deans, the top five law schools:
1. Harvard University
2. Yale University
3. Columbia University
3. University of Michigan, Ann Arbor
5. University of Chicago
From the 1974-75 Blau-Marguiles survey of law school Deans, the top nine schools:
1. Harvard University
2. Yale University
3. University of Michigan, Ann Arbor
4. Columbia University
5. University of Chicago
6. Stanford University
7. University of California, Berkeley
8. New York University
9. University of Pennsylvania
From the 1977 Cartter Report survey of faculty quality:
1. Harvard University
2. Yale University
3. Stanford University
4. University of Michigan, Ann Arbor
5. University of Chicago
6. Columbia University
7. University of California, Berkeley
8. University of Pennsylvania
9. University of Virginia
10. University of Texas, Austin
11. University of California, Los Angeles
12. Cornell University
13. New York University
14. Northwestern University
15. Duke University
From the 1987 U.S. News reputational survey of Deans, which was the basis of its first ranking of law schools:
1. Harvard University
1. Yale University
3. University of Michigan, Ann Arbor
4. Columbia University
4. Stanford University
6. University of Chicago
7. University of California, Berkeley
8. University of Virginia
9. New York University
10. University of Pennsylvania
11. University of Texas, Austin
12. Duke University
13. Georgetown University
14. University of California, Los Angeles
15. Cornell University
16. Northwestern University
And, finally, the fall 2007 academic reputation survey by U.S. News:
1. Harvard University
1. Yale University
3. Columbia University
3. Stanford University
5. University of Chicago
6. New York University
6. University of California, Berkeley
6. University of Michigan, Ann Arbor
9. University of Virginia
10. University of Pennsylvania
11. Cornell University
11. Duke University
11. Georgetown University
14. Northwestern University
14. University of Texas, Austin