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Hi,
I don` t know where to ask this question, but i hope i am in the right forum.

A little something about me. I always had a love of study, and learning( many hours in the library), but i never had a clear goal of what i wanted to do when i was getting my bachelor degree. Like most people, i just took a bunch of math classes, and got a degree in applied mathematics with concentration in computing from UCLA with a general gpa of 2.98, and gpa for the subject at 3.15.


After a year of suck in the real world, i want to study the law. I never had this "focus" before. I want to study the law at a top law school, and be a lawyer, or even a law scholar( goal). Since my gpa suck, how the hell am i going to achieve my goal? I figure there are two ways for me to go. One, i go for a 2 bachelor, or a master in philosophy( i love), and rise my gpa to something more better than the shit i have. Two, i score really high at the lsat, and write a diversity statement of why my gpa suck, and how i changed from my old ways.


I appreciate any suggestions since i am currently an army of one.

eastwind wrote: After a year of suck in the real world, i want to study the law. I never had this "focus" before. I want to study the law at a top law school, and be a lawyer, or even a law scholar( goal). Since my gpa suck, how the hell am i going to achieve my goal? I figure there are two ways for me to go. One, i go for a 2 bachelor, or a master in philosophy( i love), and rise my gpa to something more better than the shit i have. Two, i score really high at the lsat, and write a diversity statement of why my gpa suck, and how i changed from my old ways.

TCR - look around on LSN and you'll see a few lucky splitters. Nothing else will fix that GPA.

With a very high LSAT score (170+)

Get a 170+ and apply early decision to UVA.

Though do you want to do law or just don't wanna be in the real world?

Recap, I am taking the lsat on oct, and am committed to doing well the first time. I don ` t want to waste time.

So, i can` t apply for early admission, as you can tell.

eastwind wrote:Recap, I am taking the lsat on oct, and am committed to doing well the first time. I don ` t want to waste time.

So, i can` t apply for early admission, as you can tell.

Yes you can. Schools ED deadlines are after Oct LSAT is released.

Just get your LORs ready now.

You aren't getting T13 without EDing if this cycle is as bad as last.

billyez wrote:

eastwind wrote: After a year of suck in the real world, i want to study the law. I never had this "focus" before. I want to study the law at a top law school, and be a lawyer, or even a law scholar( goal). Since my gpa suck, how the hell am i going to achieve my goal? I figure there are two ways for me to go. One, i go for a 2 bachelor, or a master in philosophy( i love), and rise my gpa to something more better than the shit i have. Two, i score really high at the lsat, and write a diversity statement of why my gpa suck, and how i changed from my old ways.

TCR - look around on LSN and you'll see a few lucky splitters. Nothing else will fix that GPA.

what about getting a master to rise that gpa? What is TCR, and LSN?

Once you have your bachelors degree, subsequent grades don't matter. Your gpa is set. Oh and its "raise", not "rise".

eastwind wrote:what about getting a master to rise that gpa? What is TCR, and LSN?

Well, I do not know about TCR, but I know that LSN stands for LawSchoolNumbers.com.

Desert Fox wrote:

eastwind wrote:Recap, I am taking the lsat on oct, and am committed to doing well the first time. I don ` t want to waste time.

So, i can` t apply for early admission, as you can tell.

Yes you can. Schools ED deadlines are after Oct LSAT is released.

Just get your LORs ready now.

You aren't getting T13 without EDing if this cycle is as bad as last.

I am so sorry. I don ` t get the abbreviations. Google hates me. what is a LORs? It sounds cool.

TCR = the correct answer. He was agreeing that you need a high LSAT.

eastwind wrote: I am so sorry. I don ` t get the abbreviations. Google hates me. what is a LORs? It sounds cool.

LORs stands for Letters of Recommendations.

eastwind wrote:

Desert Fox wrote:

eastwind wrote:Recap, I am taking the lsat on oct, and am committed to doing well the first time. I don ` t want to waste time.

So, i can` t apply for early admission, as you can tell.

Yes you can. Schools ED deadlines are after Oct LSAT is released.

Just get your LORs ready now.

You aren't getting T13 without EDing if this cycle is as bad as last.

I am so sorry. I don ` t get the abbreviations. Google hates me. what is a LORs? It sounds cool.

Definitely not cool, Letter of Recommendations. Get them now, because it takes months.

LOR = letters of recommendation. Use this:

http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... =2&t=18478

Desert Fox wrote:Get a 170+ and apply early decision to UVA.

Though do you want to do law or just don't wanna be in the real world?

There were sticklers about 3.0 floor with barely a 170 this past cycle.

blink wrote:Once you have your bachelors degree, subsequent grades don't matter. Your gpa is set. Oh and its "raise", not "rise".

So, does this mean if i have a masters degree, and got a gpa of 4.00 for the master, it would still not effect my chances of applying to law school in a good way?

D Brooks wrote:

Desert Fox wrote:Get a 170+ and apply early decision to UVA.

Though do you want to do law or just don't wanna be in the real world?

There were sticklers about 3.0 floor with barely a 170 this past cycle.

IIRC they were rounding to 3.0.

eastwind wrote:

blink wrote:Once you have your bachelors degree, subsequent grades don't matter. Your gpa is set. Oh and its "raise", not "rise".

So, does this mean if i have a masters degree, and got a gpa of 4.00 for the master, it would still not effect my chances of applying to law school in a good way?

It would be a decent soft, that's it. And before you ask what a soft is, look it up. There's a search function in the forum.

Anyways, tyvm.

Make sure you have someone, or multiple people, proof-read your personal statement...

Your Master's GPA will be calculated into LSDAS, so it couldn't hurt (Assuming you got a 3.85+ cumulative).

You didn't answer though... do you want to go to law school, or do you just not want to be in the real world?

Do you have any UG debt?

Aggiegrad2011 wrote:
Your Master's GPA will be calculated into LSDAS, so it couldn't hurt (Assuming you got a 3.85+ cumulative).

No it won't; stop giving bad advice.

Aggiegrad2011 wrote:Your Master's GPA will be calculated into LSDAS, so it couldn't hurt (Assuming you got a 3.85+ cumulative).

It won't. It will help but so minimally that it isn't really worth it just to get it as a soft for law school.

Extra degrees will NOT change the GPA that the law school admissions people look at. Your GPA is set in stone once your first degree is awarded. Your only realistic shot at getting into a top school is to get a very high LSAT score and apply early decision. You should make sure that all your application materials are ready to go ASAP if you are planning to apply this year.

Did you retake classes during undergrad? If so, your LSAC-calculated GPA is likely to be significantly lower than you think, and since you are critically near the magic 3.0 line, this may seriously affect your chances. I retook about 4 classes and my LSAC GPA was ~0.25 lower than the GPA on my transcript.

Aggiegrad2011 wrote:Make sure you have someone, or multiple people, proof-read your personal statement...

+1

blink wrote:

eastwind wrote:

blink wrote:Once you have your bachelors degree, subsequent grades don't matter. Your gpa is set. Oh and its "raise", not "rise".

So, does this mean if i have a masters degree, and got a gpa of 4.00 for the master, it would still not effect my chances of applying to law school in a good way?

It would be a decent soft, that's it. And before you ask what a soft is, look it up. There's a search function in the forum.

I'm not sure it's all that decent of a soft. Like 25% of all law school admits have a graduate degree...