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Library Question

Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 6:13 pm
by kalvano
I see a lot of people talking about spending a lot of time in the library.

Is this because of the access to materials for study purposes, or just because it's a convenient place to study?

I ask because I won't be living super close to school, and would prefer to study at home.

Re: Library Question

Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 6:21 pm
by Matthies
kalvano wrote:I see a lot of people talking about spending a lot of time in the library.

Is this because of the access to materials for study purposes, or just because it's a convenient place to study?

I ask because I won't be living super close to school, and would prefer to study at home.
The people I knew that studied at school (libaray or study rooms) did so becuase they said they could not study at home. I was the opposite, i studied at home only becuase I had a bad habit of chating with people at school instea dof studying. 99% of the time anything you need you can get onlibe or through the LS libray website, so studying at school/libray is just a prefreance. If your self motivated and a good manager of your time studying at home is fine.

Re: Library Question

Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 6:23 pm
by MrKappus
For me, it was definitely all about forcing myself to do work. Although schlepping materials back and forth from home to school would've also sucked.

Re: Library Question

Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 7:34 pm
by kalvano
My commute is going to be like 60-90 minutes one way. I'm assuming my classes will get out early - mid afternoon, and would prefer to get home and do my work there.

If I don't leave before 3:45 or 4:00 in the afternoon, I might as well just stay to 6:30 or 7:00.

I just didn't know if I needed access to all the books and such or not.

Re: Library Question

Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 7:58 pm
by ggocat
kalvano wrote:I just didn't know if I needed access to all the books and such or not.
My school had all the hornbooks and study aids for 1L classes on reserve in the library (the casebook-keyed hornbooks, E&Es, nutshells, "understanding" series, etc.). They could only be checked out for 2 hours at a time (renewable), or overnight if you checked them out less than two hours before closing.

So I can understand why people might have wanted to spend some time at the library every once and awhile to avoid buying expensive and potentially useless supplements. But I did most of my studying at home, as well. I did not find supplements useful.

PS -- Also check the reserve list at your school before you buy 2L and 3L books. I saved a couple hundred bucks 'cause my upper-level course profs put the texts on reserve in the library.

Re: Library Question

Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 8:01 pm
by Cleareyes
Studying at the library was entirely about getting work done on campus/convenient place to study as far as I could tell. On occasion someone would be using an actual library book, but most of the time people were using their laptops or personal copies of casebook/supplement.

Re: Library Question

Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 8:04 pm
by kalvano
Cool. Thanks for the info.

My wife will be starting grad school in the spring and it would be helpful to her if I could be home to let the dogs out, etc.

Re: Library Question

Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 8:15 pm
by Matthies
Well there is also a herd mentality in law school, especially first semester of first year. people see other people studying in the library and think OMG if I don't study in the library and use multicolored highlighters till 12AM I'm going to be last in my class! No shiting, if I could have gotten 10 of my friends to stand on their hands in the library for an hour with the case book under their heads the first week of law school within seven days there would be another 10 people doing for no other reason than we were doing it and they thought we knew something they didn't. Study where and the way you think it will be most productive for you.

Re: Library Question

Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 8:17 pm
by Matthies
Aslo people go batshit crazy at the law school with in 3 weeks of exams, you can feel the stress, being there during readying week just frweaked me out so i stayed as far away from school as I could once classes were done until exam day.

Re: Library Question

Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 8:20 pm
by MrKappus
The herd mentality comment is definitely credited to a degree, but it's also important not to mistake correlation for causation. People also tend to study in the library, rather than home, b/c it's way easier to stay in one spot for 3, 4, or 5 hours at a time. Home's got TV, food, dogs, phones, bills to pay, easy access to the outdoors, computer speakers, and 15 million other things to distract. I don't waste time when I'm in the library b/c I want to get the hell out of there.

That said, each person doing what's best for him/her is both (kinda) obvious and TCR.

Re: Library Question

Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 8:32 pm
by Matthies
MrKappus wrote:The herd mentality comment is definitely credited to a degree, but it's also important not to mistake correlation for causation. People also tend to study in the library, rather than home, b/c it's way easier to stay in one spot for 3, 4, or 5 hours at a time. Home's got TV, food, dogs, phones, bills to pay, easy access to the outdoors, computer speakers, and 15 million other things to distract. I don't waste time when I'm in the library b/c I want to get the hell out of there.
Meh, I much, much prefer home, and I'm also much more productive there. i set up a home office and was pretty good at when I was in my office was study time only. Plus I could take a break without worry about my laptop being unattended in the library. I could smoke, cuss, fart, drink, sit around in my bathrobe, play music if I wanted to. I still prefer that. hell I've turned down some pretty good legal jobs to be bale to work out of my house instead. I have a suit top, shirt anf tie, becuase that's all you can see on the web cam, but I have no idea where the trousers are for any of my suits :) Maybe I'm just hermit, but I like staying in my cave and so long as I'm productive, it works for me.

Re: Library Question

Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 8:33 pm
by MrKappus
Matthies wrote:Meh, I much, much prefer home, and I'm also much more productive there. i set up a home office and was pretty good at when I was in my office was study time only. Plus I could take a break without worry about my laptop being unattended in the library. I could smoke, cuss, fart, drink, sit around in my bathrobe, play music if I wanted to. I still prefer that. hell I've turned down some pretty good legal jobs to be bale to work out of my house instead. I have a suit top, shirt anf tie, becuase that's all you can see on the web cam, but I have no idea where the trousers are for any of my suits :) Maybe I'm just hermit, but I like staying in my cave and so long as I'm productive, it works for me.
Haha both awesome and hilarious. I've probably just got home-induced ADHD.

Re: Library Question

Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 8:41 pm
by Cleareyes
Matthies wrote:
MrKappus wrote:The herd mentality comment is definitely credited to a degree, but it's also important not to mistake correlation for causation. People also tend to study in the library, rather than home, b/c it's way easier to stay in one spot for 3, 4, or 5 hours at a time. Home's got TV, food, dogs, phones, bills to pay, easy access to the outdoors, computer speakers, and 15 million other things to distract. I don't waste time when I'm in the library b/c I want to get the hell out of there.
Meh, I much, much prefer home, and I'm also much more productive there. i set up a home office and was pretty good at when I was in my office was study time only. Plus I could take a break without worry about my laptop being unattended in the library. I could smoke, cuss, fart, drink, sit around in my bathrobe, play music if I wanted to. I still prefer that. hell I've turned down some pretty good legal jobs to be bale to work out of my house instead. I have a suit top, shirt anf tie, becuase that's all you can see on the web cam, but I have no idea where the trousers are for any of my suits :) Maybe I'm just hermit, but I like staying in my cave and so long as I'm productive, it works for me.
Ain't no porn better than library porn.

Re: Library Question

Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 8:44 pm
by Matthies
Cleareyes wrote:
Matthies wrote:
MrKappus wrote:The herd mentality comment is definitely credited to a degree, but it's also important not to mistake correlation for causation. People also tend to study in the library, rather than home, b/c it's way easier to stay in one spot for 3, 4, or 5 hours at a time. Home's got TV, food, dogs, phones, bills to pay, easy access to the outdoors, computer speakers, and 15 million other things to distract. I don't waste time when I'm in the library b/c I want to get the hell out of there.
Meh, I much, much prefer home, and I'm also much more productive there. i set up a home office and was pretty good at when I was in my office was study time only. Plus I could take a break without worry about my laptop being unattended in the library. I could smoke, cuss, fart, drink, sit around in my bathrobe, play music if I wanted to. I still prefer that. hell I've turned down some pretty good legal jobs to be bale to work out of my house instead. I have a suit top, shirt anf tie, becuase that's all you can see on the web cam, but I have no idea where the trousers are for any of my suits :) Maybe I'm just hermit, but I like staying in my cave and so long as I'm productive, it works for me.
Ain't no porn better than library porn.
Yes there is, main movie on my 30 inch montior in srounround sound, seconddary miodget porn on 22 inch landsacpe minotor IN 3D!

Re: Library Question

Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 8:49 pm
by Cleareyes
Matthies wrote: Yes there is, main movie on my 30 inch montior in srounround sound, seconddary miodget porn on 22 inch landsacpe minotor IN 3D!
Enjoying a few adult beverages, are we?

Re: Library Question

Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 8:51 pm
by doyleoil
Cleareyes wrote:
Matthies wrote: Yes there is, main movie on my 30 inch montior in srounround sound, seconddary miodget porn on 22 inch landsacpe minotor IN 3D!
Enjoying a few adult beverages, are we?
no he always spells like that

Re: Library Question

Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 8:53 pm
by Matthies
doyleoil wrote:
Cleareyes wrote:
Matthies wrote: Yes there is, main movie on my 30 inch montior in srounround sound, seconddary miodget porn on 22 inch landsacpe minotor IN 3D!
Enjoying a few adult beverages, are we?
no he always spells like that
yep I'm dyslexic, that is my native tounge, speech to text no workies in TLS chat box

Re: Library Question

Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 8:54 pm
by Cleareyes
doyleoil wrote:
Cleareyes wrote:
Matthies wrote: Yes there is, main movie on my 30 inch montior in srounround sound, seconddary miodget porn on 22 inch landsacpe minotor IN 3D!
Enjoying a few adult beverages, are we?
no he always spells like that
What's your stance on the all important library porn debate?

Re: Library Question

Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 9:17 pm
by doyleoil
Cleareyes wrote:
doyleoil wrote:
Cleareyes wrote:
Matthies wrote: Yes there is, main movie on my 30 inch montior in srounround sound, seconddary miodget porn on 22 inch landsacpe minotor IN 3D!
Enjoying a few adult beverages, are we?
no he always spells like that
What's your stance on the all important library porn debate?
I'm with you, of course. I don't particularly get into the midget variety, library or not. 3D sounds intriguing, though.

Re: Library Question

Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 4:48 pm
by Failtastic

I'm with you, of course. I don't particularly get into the midget variety, library or not. 3D sounds intriguing, though.
Is 3D porn any good? I think it sounds like a brilliant idea and it will be the real reason people get 3D tvs, but have never known anyone who watched it.

Re: Library Question

Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 6:56 pm
by danidancer
Matthies wrote:Maybe I'm just hermit, but I like staying in my cave and so long as I'm productive, it works for me.
To each his own, I suppose, but I'm the exact same way. Never, ever studied in the library in undergrad. I definitely ended up there occasionally, but I'm far too antsy for it to really work out for me. I study best when I'm able to get up, have food/drinks, use the bathroom, walk around, etc. The library feels a bit like a prison to me, in that regard. I'm good for like 30 minutes to an hour at a time before I need something, anything, to break the monotony of staring at my computer or a book for a couple of minutes. I also really like staying in my PJs whenever possible. If I could spend my entire life in PJs, I'd be a very happy girl.

I do have to admit that with my apartment's paper thin walls and the special time constraints involved, the library was a godsend for taking LSAT preptests last year...

Re: Library Question

Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 9:18 am
by Matthies
Failtastic wrote:

I'm with you, of course. I don't particularly get into the midget variety, library or not. 3D sounds intriguing, though.
Is 3D porn any good? I think it sounds like a brilliant idea and it will be the real reason people get 3D tvs, but have never known anyone who watched it.
Well lets just say there are some things you may or m,ay not (depending on your prefrence) to have come flying right at your face

Re: Library Question

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 2:52 pm
by rdcws000
Sorry to revive this thread and force it back on topic, but I'm looking for additional ideas on places people have gone for peaceful study.

On Saturdays I would like to wake up early (7ish) and study for a full day. Most PT law students have told me they require at least 1 full (8hour) weekend day to get caught up on reading and outlines for the week.

The problem is, building on what I am reading above I would like to avoid the LS library. I have a public library about half a mile away from my house, but I looked into it today and it is only open from 10a-5p on Saturdays. My house is not a great option because we have 2 young kids and my wife and I both agree I'll be more productive and be able to spend time with the family sooner if I leave the house to study.

So, any outside the box ideas on how/where people have studied while avoiding the law school library?

Re: Library Question

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 3:03 pm
by b1ue
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Re: Library Question

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 3:08 pm
by rdcws000
Ah! Nice work.

That was clever, but I wasn't looking for street adresses of a place to read, just some general ideas.