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LSDAS; "Excluded from School's GPA"

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 2:33 pm
by petrovovitch@
What's this mean for my LSDAS GPA if I have a U?
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Re: LSDAS; "Excluded from School's GPA"

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 2:55 pm
by bankruptedcasino
Perhaps someone wiser than me can confirm, but it means that your "U" is not calculated in your school's GPA which means LSDAS will count it as an F.

Wish I had better news, but since I'm not 100% then it could not be all bad.

Re: LSDAS; "Excluded from School's GPA"

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 3:09 pm
by 094320
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Re: LSDAS; "Excluded from School's GPA"

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 3:13 pm
by Bildungsroman
acrossthelake wrote:No, the opposite. It means LSDAS won't count it into your LSDAS GPA. I'm pretty sure because I had a similar thing on my chart for my transcript(not a U, something else), and it wasn't counted.
If that "U" stands for unsatisfactory, then you are incorrect.
LSAC wrote:Failing Grades
Any grade notation that signifies failure (such as No Credit, No Credit/Fail, Not Passing, Incomplete/Fail, Withdraw/Fail, Unsatisfactory, Fail, etc.) is converted to zero on the 4.0 scale and is included in the calculation of the GPA, even if the issuing school considers the grade to be nonpunitive. Failure is defined as credit attempted but not earned. If a transcript is not clear about credit attempted, LSAC staff will contact the registrar at the issuing school to confirm whether course credit was attempted. Incomplete and Withdraw grades considered punitive by the issuing school will be included in the conversion. The only exception to this policy is for No Credit, Withdraw/Fail, repeated courses, and incomplete grades specifically explained in Grades Excluded From Conversion.

Re: LSDAS; "Excluded from School's GPA"

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 3:27 pm
by 094320
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Re: LSDAS; "Excluded from School's GPA"

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 3:30 pm
by petrovovitch@
Bildungsroman wrote:
acrossthelake wrote:No, the opposite. It means LSDAS won't count it into your LSDAS GPA. I'm pretty sure because I had a similar thing on my chart for my transcript(not a U, something else), and it wasn't counted.
If that "U" stands for unsatisfactory, then you are incorrect.
LSAC wrote:Failing Grades
Any grade notation that signifies failure (such as No Credit, No Credit/Fail, Not Passing, Incomplete/Fail, Withdraw/Fail, Unsatisfactory, Fail, etc.) is converted to zero on the 4.0 scale and is included in the calculation of the GPA, even if the issuing school considers the grade to be nonpunitive. Failure is defined as credit attempted but not earned. If a transcript is not clear about credit attempted, LSAC staff will contact the registrar at the issuing school to confirm whether course credit was attempted. Incomplete and Withdraw grades considered punitive by the issuing school will be included in the conversion. The only exception to this policy is for No Credit, Withdraw/Fail, repeated courses, and incomplete grades specifically explained in Grades Excluded From Conversion.
well isn't that pretty important? where is this explanation?

Re: LSDAS; "Excluded from School's GPA"

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 3:37 pm
by 094320
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Re: LSDAS; "Excluded from School's GPA"

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 3:45 pm
by Bildungsroman
The policy is pretty explicit that an Unsatisfactory is calculated as a failing grade.

Re: LSDAS; "Excluded from School's GPA"

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 3:51 pm
by 094320
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Re: LSDAS; "Excluded from School's GPA"

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 3:51 pm
by BenJ
LSAC's U stands for "ungraded". It's what they use to designate AP and IB credits, as well as possibly some other stuff. A U meaning unsatisfactory will be treated as an F.

Re: LSDAS; "Excluded from School's GPA"

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 5:10 pm
by im_blue
Bildungsroman wrote:
acrossthelake wrote:No, the opposite. It means LSDAS won't count it into your LSDAS GPA. I'm pretty sure because I had a similar thing on my chart for my transcript(not a U, something else), and it wasn't counted.
If that "U" stands for unsatisfactory, then you are incorrect.
LSAC wrote:Failing Grades
Any grade notation that signifies failure (such as No Credit, No Credit/Fail, Not Passing, Incomplete/Fail, Withdraw/Fail, Unsatisfactory, Fail, etc.) is converted to zero on the 4.0 scale and is included in the calculation of the GPA, even if the issuing school considers the grade to be nonpunitive. Failure is defined as credit attempted but not earned. If a transcript is not clear about credit attempted, LSAC staff will contact the registrar at the issuing school to confirm whether course credit was attempted. Incomplete and Withdraw grades considered punitive by the issuing school will be included in the conversion. The only exception to this policy is for No Credit, Withdraw/Fail, repeated courses, and incomplete grades specifically explained in Grades Excluded From Conversion.
This is correct (link here: http://www.lsac.org/Policies/transcript ... zation.asp). It's saying that the undergrad does not count U in its GPA, but LSAC still counts it as an F.