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Columbia's placement outside of NYC

Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 11:56 am
by JerrySeinfeld
I've been trying to find the statistics for Columbia's placement in NYC and outside NYC.

Does anyone know what it is and/or where I can find a great breakdown of Columbia's placement?

Re: Columbia's placement outside of NYC

Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 11:57 am
by Kiersten1985
It's anywhere you want it to be. It's a top 5 school. They place everywhere.

Re: Columbia's placement outside of NYC

Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 11:57 am
by JerrySeinfeld
Kiersten1985 wrote:It's anywhere you want it to be. It's a top 5 school. They place everywhere.
I know that, but I was just wondering if anyone had a breakdown.

Re: Columbia's placement outside of NYC

Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 11:58 am
by mallard
What exactly do you mean by a breakdown? Do you mean a list of where everyone in a certain class went? A pie chart?

Re: Columbia's placement outside of NYC

Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 12:01 pm
by JerrySeinfeld
mallard wrote:What exactly do you mean by a breakdown? Do you mean a list of where everyone in a certain class went? A pie chart?
I mean what percentage of the Class of 20XX got a job in NYC, DC, LA, etc. I noticed a lot of schools in the rankings/profile have a chart that has the percentage of the class that practices in certain regions.

Really, I'm just curious what percentage of the class practices in NYC and what percentage doesn't.

Re: Columbia's placement outside of NYC

Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 12:02 pm
by irie
This is from the Columbia Law website: http://www.law.columbia.edu/careers/car ... s/admitted

Employment Statistics for the Class of 2008:

2008 Graduate Employment: 99%

98% (at graduation)

Public Sector Salary:

High - $75,000
Low - $20,000
Median - $54,000

Private Sector Salary:

High - $168,000
Low - $95,000
Median - $160,000

Categories:

Academic 1%
Business 2%
Clerkships 11%
Government 2%
Public Interest 3%
Law Firms 82%

Regions:

International 3.2%
Mid-Atlantic 9.7%
Midwest 1.7%
Northeast 69%
Southest 5.2%
West/Rocky Mountain 11.2%

Bar Passage Figures:

312 students who took the NY State Bar exam for the first time in July 2008
303 students who passed
97.1% passage rate (our highest passage rate in the last 7 years)


I'm assuming you mean in Biglaw (or private sector), so this data isn't completely accurate. Also, it's for Class of '08, pre massive recession, so take that into account as well.

Re: Columbia's placement outside of NYC

Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 12:06 pm
by JerrySeinfeld
irie wrote:This is from the Columbia Law website: http://www.law.columbia.edu/careers/car ... s/admitted

Employment Statistics for the Class of 2008:

2008 Graduate Employment: 99%

98% (at graduation)

Public Sector Salary:

High - $75,000
Low - $20,000
Median - $54,000

Private Sector Salary:

High - $168,000
Low - $95,000
Median - $160,000

Categories:

Academic 1%
Business 2%
Clerkships 11%
Government 2%
Public Interest 3%
Law Firms 82%

Regions:

International 3.2%
Mid-Atlantic 9.7%
Midwest 1.7%
Northeast 69%
Southest 5.2%
West/Rocky Mountain 11.2%

Bar Passage Figures:

312 students who took the NY State Bar exam for the first time in July 2008
303 students who passed
97.1% passage rate (our highest passage rate in the last 7 years)


I'm assuming you mean in Biglaw (or private sector), so this data isn't completely accurate. Also, it's for Class of '08, pre massive recession, so take that into account as well.
This is pretty much what I was looking for. I didn't really expect anything more specific, i.e. specific cities, but thank you very much!

Re: Columbia's placement outside of NYC

Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 12:14 pm
by thesealocust
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Re: Columbia's placement outside of NYC

Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 12:23 pm
by motiontodismiss
Who the hell got $20k? That's pathetic, even for the public sector.

Re: Columbia's placement outside of NYC

Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 12:26 pm
by JerrySeinfeld
thesealocust wrote:A good way to do this research is to look up firms (strong/selective, big/less selective, etc.) and pull attorney bios.

Don't look for overall numbers (though no CLS grads would be telling) - instead compare the listed credentials. If you see a firm and all of the Columbia attorneys have LR but none of the HLS attorneys do, that's telling. If none of the CLS attorneys have LR but all of the Michigan grads do, that's telling. It's one of the only ways to actually approximate placement POWER as opposed to placement self selection and preference.
Thanks for the awesome advice!!!

Re: Columbia's placement outside of NYC

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 2:32 am
by im_blue
motiontodismiss wrote:Who the hell got $20k? That's pathetic, even for the public sector.
Sounds like a semi-volunteer position at a nonprofit.

Re: Columbia's placement outside of NYC

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 2:50 am
by Hiei
JerrySeinfeld wrote:
thesealocust wrote:A good way to do this research is to look up firms (strong/selective, big/less selective, etc.) and pull attorney bios.

Don't look for overall numbers (though no CLS grads would be telling) - instead compare the listed credentials. If you see a firm and all of the Columbia attorneys have LR but none of the HLS attorneys do, that's telling. If none of the CLS attorneys have LR but all of the Michigan grads do, that's telling. It's one of the only ways to actually approximate placement POWER as opposed to placement self selection and preference.
Thanks for the awesome advice!!!
LOL I remember when I used to tell people to do this they would go into huge fits about how this was the "dumbest technique they had ever heard of" and how it showed a "complete lack of logic". Anyway yeah it's a great idea. You will quickly see that Columbia is only outdone by HYS (and only barely by S at that) and only matched by Chicago. When you look at the fact that NYC is their grads target/most desired/most connected market by a large margin, Columbia's strength in California and DC is nothing short of incredible.

http://www.cov.com/biographies/List.asp ... 90db684596

http://www.irell.com/professionals.html?results

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