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Are ATL & XOXO Commenters a Representative Sample?
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 5:53 pm
by miamiman
I have a confession: in my time leading towards law school, I (unfortunately) have read more than a few comments written by XOXO and ATL users. Initially, my gut reaction was that they had to be nonrepresentative since I know quite a few law students and practitioners and they don't talk this way. By this I mean they don't cavalierly default to racial slurs, shock humor, and other lazy (and unfortunate) forms of expression.
Months later, I can't help but take pause: first at the content, then at the thought that educated, socially-minded people could or would even be this hateful, and, finally, whether this content is representative of the field more broadly.
To current law students: are your peers at all like these assholes?
Re: Are ATL & XOXO Commenters a Representative Sample?
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 5:55 pm
by rayiner
miamiman wrote:I have a confession: in my time leading towards law school, I (unfortunately) have read more than a few comments written by XOXO and ATL users. Initially, my gut reaction was that they had to be nonrepresentative since I know quite a few law students and practitioners and they don't talk this way. By this I mean they don't cavalierly default to racial slurs, shock humor, and other lazy (and unfortunate) forms of expression.
Months later, I can't help but take pause: first at the content, then at the thought that educated, socially-minded people could or would even be this hateful, and, finally, whether this content is representative of the field more broadly.
To current law students: are your peers at all like these assholes?
I can only speak for NU, but definitely not. The people IRL are far more socially well adjusted, at least externally, than people on XOXO and ATL.
Re: Are ATL & XOXO Commenters a Representative Sample?
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 6:00 pm
by miamiman
rayiner wrote:miamiman wrote:I have a confession: in my time leading towards law school, I (unfortunately) have read more than a few comments written by XOXO and ATL users. Initially, my gut reaction was that they had to be nonrepresentative since I know quite a few law students and practitioners and they don't talk this way. By this I mean they don't cavalierly default to racial slurs, shock humor, and other lazy (and unfortunate) forms of expression.
Months later, I can't help but take pause: first at the content, then at the thought that educated, socially-minded people could or would even be this hateful, and, finally, whether this content is representative of the field more broadly.
To current law students: are your peers at all like these assholes?
I can only speak for NU, but definitely not. The people IRL are far more socially well adjusted, at least externally, than people on XOXO and ATL.
Hey Ray. How'd 1L finish up?
Re: Are ATL & XOXO Commenters a Representative Sample?
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 6:04 pm
by Matthies
rayiner wrote:miamiman wrote:I have a confession: in my time leading towards law school, I (unfortunately) have read more than a few comments written by XOXO and ATL users. Initially, my gut reaction was that they had to be nonrepresentative since I know quite a few law students and practitioners and they don't talk this way. By this I mean they don't cavalierly default to racial slurs, shock humor, and other lazy (and unfortunate) forms of expression.
Months later, I can't help but take pause: first at the content, then at the thought that educated, socially-minded people could or would even be this hateful, and, finally, whether this content is representative of the field more broadly.
To current law students: are your peers at all like these assholes?
I can only speak for NU, but definitely not. The people IRL are far more socially well adjusted, at least externally, than people on XOXO and ATL.
Agree there are people like that, but they don't last long in the proffesion. Your rep gets around fast once you start to pratice and people do and will balcklist you quickly. Allready some folks from my class have a "rep" and I know its kept at least one person out of proffesional orginization that could have really helped thier carear.
Re: Are ATL & XOXO Commenters a Representative Sample?
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 6:07 pm
by rayiner
miamiman wrote:rayiner wrote:miamiman wrote:I have a confession: in my time leading towards law school, I (unfortunately) have read more than a few comments written by XOXO and ATL users. Initially, my gut reaction was that they had to be nonrepresentative since I know quite a few law students and practitioners and they don't talk this way. By this I mean they don't cavalierly default to racial slurs, shock humor, and other lazy (and unfortunate) forms of expression.
Months later, I can't help but take pause: first at the content, then at the thought that educated, socially-minded people could or would even be this hateful, and, finally, whether this content is representative of the field more broadly.
To current law students: are your peers at all like these assholes?
I can only speak for NU, but definitely not. The people IRL are far more socially well adjusted, at least externally, than people on XOXO and ATL.
Hey Ray. How'd 1L finish up?
We'll find out when grades come out in June.

Re: Are ATL & XOXO Commenters a Representative Sample?
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 6:12 pm
by TTH
I think people on XOXO and ATL, and to a larger extent, commentors on various blogs and newspaper websites around the web, are more representative than many of us would like to think. The anonymity of these forums allow people to express views they would not express publicly, but still hold nonetheless.
Unfortunately, people are assholes, and teh internets r serius bizniss.
Re: Are ATL & XOXO Commenters a Representative Sample?
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 6:22 pm
by TheOpossum
TTH wrote:I think people on XOXO and ATL, and to a larger extent, commentors on various blogs and newspaper websites around the web, are more representative than many of us would like to think. The anonymity of these forums allow people to express views they would not express publicly, but still hold nonetheless.
Unfortunately, people are assholes, and teh internets r serius bizniss.
This is absolutely true. I'm sure many of the people on those sites are cool in real life, some even may be your friends, many - I'm sure - are TLSers who are known and loved. Never underestimate the power of anonymity and the glib and offensive nature it fosters.
Re: Are ATL & XOXO Commenters a Representative Sample?
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 6:27 pm
by sumus romani
I sometimes get the sense that people say things on those sites in order to be offensive, just for a change from their PC lives. Then again, perhaps this is proof-positive that I am a Pollyanna

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Re: Are ATL & XOXO Commenters a Representative Sample?
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 7:35 pm
by miamiman
sumus romani wrote:I sometimes get the sense that people say things on those sites in order to be offensive, just for a change from their PC lives. Then again, perhaps this is proof-positive that I am a Pollyanna

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I agree with this. The online version of Michelle Malkin.
Re: Are ATL & XOXO Commenters a Representative Sample?
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 7:38 pm
by traehekat
Welcome to the internet.
Re: Are ATL & XOXO Commenters a Representative Sample?
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 7:49 pm
by downstream
It's less XOXO people being weird and more TLS people being total unadulterated losers.
XOXO has had some stellar debates on that page, some very smart people and some super funny content.
TLS is never going to be at that caliber but nor should it, I suppose. Everyone here is happy with ponies and rainbows so have at it.
Re: Are ATL & XOXO Commenters a Representative Sample?
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 8:00 pm
by d34d9823
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Re: Are ATL & XOXO Commenters a Representative Sample?
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 8:06 pm
by miamiman
Nice job manipulating my quotes and tearing them out of context.
I'm sure you'll do great during c&f
Re: Are ATL & XOXO Commenters a Representative Sample?
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 11:53 pm
by merichard87
Whats XOXO?
Re: Are ATL & XOXO Commenters a Representative Sample?
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 11:54 pm
by Kilpatrick
merichard87 wrote:Whats XOXO?
Count yourself lucky that you don't know.
Re: Are ATL & XOXO Commenters a Representative Sample?
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 11:57 pm
by Doritos
merichard87 wrote:Whats XOXO?
hugs and kisses
Re: Are ATL & XOXO Commenters a Representative Sample?
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 11:57 pm
by merichard87
lol no tell me. I'm intrigued now.
Re: Are ATL & XOXO Commenters a Representative Sample?
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 11:58 pm
by kalvano
merichard87 wrote:Whats XOXO?
Don't do a Google Image search for it without Safesearch on.
Re: Are ATL & XOXO Commenters a Representative Sample?
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 11:58 pm
by Kilpatrick
Re: Are ATL & XOXO Commenters a Representative Sample?
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 11:59 pm
by d34d9823
merichard87 wrote:lol no tell me. I'm intrigued now.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=xoxo+law
Re: Are ATL & XOXO Commenters a Representative Sample?
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 12:00 am
by merichard87
Oh yea I've been to autoadmit. Thanks.
Re: Are ATL & XOXO Commenters a Representative Sample?
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 12:01 am
by kalvano
No wonder they are all so bitter. Their message board is stranded in 1995.
Re: Are ATL & XOXO Commenters a Representative Sample?
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 12:08 am
by soundgardener
kalvano wrote:
No wonder they are all so bitter. Their message board is stranded in 1995.
Yeah, horrible layout. However there is some good info mixed in with all the bullshit, and some of the stuff on there is pretty damn funny.
Re: Are ATL & XOXO Commenters a Representative Sample?
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 12:30 am
by erniesto
merichard87 wrote:Whats XOXO?
Take all the well-intentioned naivety of TLS and violently rape it with a dose of internet lolz and anonymity.
Re: Are ATL & XOXO Commenters a Representative Sample?
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 1:24 am
by TTH
erniesto wrote:merichard87 wrote:Whats XOXO?
Take all the well-intentioned naivety of TLS and violently rape it with a dose of internet lolz and anonymity.
If TLS and 4chan fucked and had a kid, it would be XOXO/AA