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Anyone using a mac laptop for LS?

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 9:32 pm
by kswiss
I have a macbook pro with windows 7 dual booted. It works pretty well and is fast, but the keyboard layout and the way the mouse scrolls isn't quite the same when on the windows side. I know that most of the software for testing is PC only.

Anyone with any experience with this?

I'm thinking of getting a netbook anyway, but I'm not sure I want to take tests on such a small screen either.

Re: Anyone using a mac laptop for LS?

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 10:57 pm
by statuscheckerssuck
kswiss wrote:I have a macbook pro with windows 7 dual booted. It works pretty well and is fast, but the keyboard layout and the way the mouse scrolls isn't quite the same when on the windows side. I know that most of the software for testing is PC only.

Anyone with any experience with this?

I'm thinking of getting a netbook anyway, but I'm not sure I want to take tests on such a small screen either.
Most schools have software for macs now too. It is probably kind of a necessity considering at most the law schools I visited about half the people seemed to have Macs.

Re: Anyone using a mac laptop for LS?

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 1:52 pm
by Great Satchmo
I have a 10" netbook and although it's great for personal stuff and carrying around, there is no way I'm going to do reading or write papers on there, just too small.

You can always dual boot a Mac if that's what you want, then you have the choice of Windows or OSX. I'm going to look around for a used/cheap Mac as school starts to get closer, or when loan money is disbursed :)

Re: Anyone using a mac laptop for LS?

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 3:00 pm
by nealric
Not all schools use exam software. Georgetown doesn't.

I find about 30-40% of students are on macs.

Re: Anyone using a mac laptop for LS?

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 3:03 pm
by Vincent Vega
IU requires Windows for exams. Not sure about other schools.

Re: Anyone using a mac laptop for LS?

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 3:06 pm
by imchuckbass58
Columbia's exam software only runs on windows, however they provide instructions for installing windows on macs (using bootcamp), and a lot of people take advantage of this option.

That said, if you are running windows on a mac using bootcamp, they make you sign a waiver saying if the software crashes (which it does very occassionally), you're completely responsible. So basically you have to be willing to run that risk (which is admittedly a small one).

Re: Anyone using a mac laptop for LS?

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 3:07 pm
by Vincent Vega
imchuckbass58 wrote:Columbia's exam software only runs on windows, however they provide instructions for installing windows on macs (using bootcamp), and a lot of people take advantage of this option.

That said, if you are running windows on a mac using bootcamp, they make you sign a waiver saying if the software crashes (which it does very occassionally), you're completely responsible. So basically you have to be willing to run that risk (which is admittedly a small one).
What happens if your PC running Windows crashes during an exam?

Re: Anyone using a mac laptop for LS?

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 3:12 pm
by imchuckbass58
Halibut6 wrote:
imchuckbass58 wrote:Columbia's exam software only runs on windows, however they provide instructions for installing windows on macs (using bootcamp), and a lot of people take advantage of this option.

That said, if you are running windows on a mac using bootcamp, they make you sign a waiver saying if the software crashes (which it does very occassionally), you're completely responsible. So basically you have to be willing to run that risk (which is admittedly a small one).
What happens if your PC running Windows crashes during an exam?
To be honest, for the purpose of exams I think it's the same - either way if you can't reboot and get it to work, you have to handwrite your exam.

That said, I think the purpose of the waiver is there are very isolated incidents of the software totally screwing up the computer to the point where data and settings are lost. If this happens on a PC, it's the exam software company's problem because they certified compatibility. If it happens on a mac, you are SOL.

They also told us that the incidence of crashes (both those that can be solved by a reboot and those that can't) are higher on macs than PCs, though still very low rates for both.

Re: Anyone using a mac laptop for LS?

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 3:15 pm
by Vincent Vega
imchuckbass58 wrote:
Halibut6 wrote:
imchuckbass58 wrote:Columbia's exam software only runs on windows, however they provide instructions for installing windows on macs (using bootcamp), and a lot of people take advantage of this option.

That said, if you are running windows on a mac using bootcamp, they make you sign a waiver saying if the software crashes (which it does very occassionally), you're completely responsible. So basically you have to be willing to run that risk (which is admittedly a small one).
What happens if your PC running Windows crashes during an exam?
To be honest, for the purpose of exams I think it's the same - either way if you can't reboot and get it to work, you have to handwrite your exam.

That said, I think the purpose of the waiver is there are very isolated incidents of the software totally screwing up the computer to the point where data and settings are lost. If this happens on a PC, it's the exam software company's problem because they certified compatibility. If it happens on a mac, you are SOL.

They also told us that the incidence of crashes (both those that can be solved by a reboot and those that can't) are higher on macs than PCs, though still very low rates for both.
I'm not going to Columbia, but this post makes me seriously consider getting a netbook, because I can't imagine having endured an entire semester of a class just to bomb it because my computer crashed and having no recourse against it.

Re: Anyone using a mac laptop for LS?

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 3:22 pm
by imchuckbass58
Halibut6 wrote: I'm not going to Columbia, but this post makes me seriously consider getting a netbook, because I can't imagine having endured an entire semester of a class just to bomb it because my computer crashed and having no recourse against it.
To be fair, I don't want to overstate the "dangers" of getting a mac. Many of my friends used macs, and none of them had problems that I know of. In fact, anecdotally the one person I know who had their computer crash during an exam had a PC.

But Columbia makes a big show of trying to get people to use PCs.

Re: Anyone using a mac laptop for LS?

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 3:25 pm
by dreman510
In BLS-i'd say about 60% of 1L's have Macs, if not more. A lot of exam software now has support for Mac

Re: Anyone using a mac laptop for LS?

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 3:38 pm
by Vincent Vega
I have a mac - I am using it right now - but I think I will also get a netbook for exams.

Re: Anyone using a mac laptop for LS?

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 3:45 pm
by Rand M.
Can we get more people to come out of the woodworks and talk about exam software compatibility? Maybe some Chicago people? NYU? UVa?

Re: Anyone using a mac laptop for LS?

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 3:52 pm
by sarlis
can we compile a list of schools that are mac-friendly (especially a mac without windows on it)

Re: Anyone using a mac laptop for LS?

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 3:55 pm
by 03121202698008
sarlis wrote:can we compile a list of schools that are mac-friendly (especially a mac without windows on it)
Already done.

http://maclawstudents.com/blog/law-scho ... -software/

Re: Anyone using a mac laptop for LS?

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 3:55 pm
by jk11287
I know that GW has just this year expanded their computer requirements to allow Macs.

Since the new Macs can run windows, for all intensive law school related purposes, it is the same as having a PC.

Re: Anyone using a mac laptop for LS?

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 3:57 pm
by oberlin08
sarlis wrote:can we compile a list of schools that are mac-friendly (especially a mac without windows on it)
+11111, great idea

Re: Anyone using a mac laptop for LS?

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 3:58 pm
by 03121202698008
oberlin08 wrote:
sarlis wrote:can we compile a list of schools that are mac-friendly (especially a mac without windows on it)
+11111, great idea
blhoward2 wrote:
sarlis wrote:can we compile a list of schools that are mac-friendly (especially a mac without windows on it)
Already done.

http://maclawstudents.com/blog/law-scho ... -software/

Re: Anyone using a mac laptop for LS?

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 4:01 pm
by sarlis
blhoward2 wrote:
oberlin08 wrote:
sarlis wrote:can we compile a list of schools that are mac-friendly (especially a mac without windows on it)
+11111, great idea
blhoward2 wrote:
sarlis wrote:can we compile a list of schools that are mac-friendly (especially a mac without windows on it)
Already done.

http://maclawstudents.com/blog/law-scho ... -software/
Thanks for the link. There are a ton of schools on there, but many schools are not on there, like 4 out of the 5 i am considering haha

Re: Anyone using a mac laptop for LS?

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 4:02 pm
by 03121202698008
sarlis wrote:
blhoward2 wrote:
oberlin08 wrote:
sarlis wrote:can we compile a list of schools that are mac-friendly (especially a mac without windows on it)
+11111, great idea
blhoward2 wrote:
sarlis wrote:can we compile a list of schools that are mac-friendly (especially a mac without windows on it)
Already done.

http://maclawstudents.com/blog/law-scho ... -software/
Thanks for the link. There are a ton of schools on there, but many schools are not on there, like 4 out of the 5 i am considering haha
If you look for IT requirements on each school's site...you'll likely find it. If you e-mail the guy who runs that site, he'll add it to the list.

Re: Anyone using a mac laptop for LS?

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 2:19 am
by zeth006
Great Satchmo wrote:I have a 10" netbook and although it's great for personal stuff and carrying around, there is no way I'm going to do reading or write papers on there, just too small.

You can always dual boot a Mac if that's what you want, then you have the choice of Windows or OSX. I'm going to look around for a used/cheap Mac as school starts to get closer, or when loan money is disbursed :)

Why Mac and not PC (besides OSX?)