Re: USC (Gould) c/o 2018
Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2015 12:27 am
Welcome to the thread and congratulations, JoebearJoebear wrote:Just found this forum, and this seems like a great thread to follow. So checking in as a soon to be 1L at USC.
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Welcome to the thread and congratulations, JoebearJoebear wrote:Just found this forum, and this seems like a great thread to follow. So checking in as a soon to be 1L at USC.
Woo a new person itt! Congrats JB!Joebear wrote:Just found this forum, and this seems like a great thread to follow. So checking in as a soon to be 1L at USC.
Everyone says to just take it easy and enjoy your last weeks of freedom. Prep allegedly doesn't do much to help and isn't worth the fuss.LawsRUs wrote:Woo a new person itt! Congrats JB!Joebear wrote:Just found this forum, and this seems like a great thread to follow. So checking in as a soon to be 1L at USC.
Oh yea, a side note: I would appreciate it if you guys don't call me Laws or LawsRUs IRL. TYIA
Also is anyone doing substantive "prep" like reading e&es? I ask because I'm neither doing it nor planning on doing it, and I feel kind of bad / lazy. It's okay not to do any prep, right?
Just realized that names might be abbreviated, good thing I didn't pick BearJoe as my username.LawsRUs wrote: Oh yea, a side note: I would appreciate it if you guys don't call me Laws or LawsRUs IRL. TYIA
Just Civ Pro. We take our Crim course in the Spring. Here's the 1L schedule for the entire year that Laws originally put in the OP for reference:Joebear wrote:Okay so this might sound stupid but is the Procedures course we take in the fall semester Civil Procedures? Or is it some sort of civil/criminal combined thing.
Fall:
- Law, Language and Values (2 units)
- Torts (4 units)
- Procedure (4 units)
- Contracts (4 units)
- Legal Research, Writing, and Advocacy (3 units)
Spring:
- Criminal Law (3 units)
- Constitutional Law (4 units)
- Property (4 units)
- Legal Profession (3 units)
- Legal Research, Writing, and Advocacy (2 units)
(1 Elective)
Yeah, I think criminal procedure is an elective.Joebear wrote:Okay so this might sound stupid but is the Procedures course we take in the fall semester Civil Procedures? Or is it some sort of civil/criminal combined thing.
Civil Procedure is deceptive because it's a more important course than it appears to be. It is actually the most difficult core course you have next semester unless you get an appreciably challenging professor in another course. Basically, Civil Procedure will focus on the rules of filing and disputing a law suit in federal court between a Plaintiff (the guy suing) and the Defendant (the guy being sued). There will be an entire rule book with tons of section numbers to memorize (how fun!). The rules of civil procedure are basically the rules of engagement when someone files a law suit based on tort law or contract law or property law - which as it happens are your other courses.This is an important point because it shows that Civ Pro unlike the other core courses is more inter-disciplinary. As Joebear alluded, Criminal law has it's own rules of procedure because criminal law suits are tried in a different court than civil court (i.e. criminal court). Yes, Criminal Procedure will be a class you may or may not elect to take. However, both Criminal Law, in the first year, and later Evidence, usually taken in second semester, are required courses and sometimes referred to as bar courses because they are tested on the bar exam along with the other 1L courses.LawsRUs wrote:Joebear wrote:Okay so this might sound stupid but is the Procedures course we take in the fall semester Civil Procedures? Or is it some sort of civil/criminal combined thing.
That's a great question. If I do buy them, I'm planning on buying them after our classes start to see how the professor is teaching and what students who have taken the class recommend. I'll probably end up picking up that CivPro E&E and working mostly from casebooks. I've heard that the order of consideration is (1) if the professor wrote a treatise, (2) if the professor recommends a certain one or don't, (3) if the author of the casebook wrote a supplement, (4) if 2Ls and 3Ls recommend a specific one for that professor, and (5) if you find a general consensus on a class (E&E for Torts and CivPro, Chemerinsky for ConLaw, and so forth). Honestly, I'm concerned about how I can find the time to read casebooks + read supplements + outline + brief + LRWA + .... Ideally, I'd like to skip on the supplements, but realistically, I'll end up buying them because everyone has them. (Not a great reason, obv. .) What is everyone else planning on doing?FlyingNorth wrote:Is anybody here planning on buying supplements for our classes this upcoming semester?
I've been reading that E&Es are great for Torts and Civ Pro.
LawsRUs wrote:That's a great question. If I do buy them, I'm planning on buying them after our classes start to see how the professor is teaching and what students who have taken the class recommend. I'll probably end up picking up that CivPro E&E and working mostly from casebooks. I've heard that the order of consideration is (1) if the professor wrote a treatise, (2) if the professor recommends a certain one or don't, (3) if the author of the casebook wrote a supplement, (4) if 2Ls and 3Ls recommend a specific one for that professor, and (5) if you find a general consensus on a class (E&E for Torts and CivPro, Chemerinsky for ConLaw, and so forth). Honestly, I'm concerned about how I can find the time to read casebooks + read supplements + outline + brief + LRWA + .... Ideally, I'd like to skip on the supplements, but realistically, I'll end up buying them because everyone has them. (Not a great reason, obv. .) What is everyone else planning on doing?FlyingNorth wrote:Is anybody here planning on buying supplements for our classes this upcoming semester?
I've been reading that E&Es are great for Torts and Civ Pro.
LawsRUs wrote:Did you guys get Torts, CivPro, and Con Law (not Contracts) for doctrinals?
(Also, thanks YAR and FN.)
How did you access your "myUSC" account?cwin25 wrote:It looks like class schedules have been posted on our myUSC accounts!
Things are starting to get real now, haha
oohh yayy how do we know this??LawsRUs wrote:Good news:
It seems like about 175 students are enrolled in LRWA. Which means--
Although they might add more students until the first day of classes, it seems like our class size is going to be less than 200. It's a very good news.
If you go to myUSC >> Web Registration >> Fall 2015 >> Law Department, you can see how many people are registered in your classes and even who your professors might be. (tentatively)calawgrl wrote:oohh yayy how do we know this??LawsRUs wrote:Good news:
It seems like about 175 students are enrolled in LRWA. Which means--
Although they might add more students until the first day of classes, it seems like our class size is going to be less than 200. It's a very good news.