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Does anyone know how to do this? I know there are a lot of brilliant people on this site, and I'm not sure how to convert the 1492 scaled MBE score into a raw number. Thanks.

That should scale to approximately 149. I believe it is the score divided by 10.

cooldog86 wrote:That should scale to approximately 149. I believe it is the score divided by 10.

Thank you very much.

rcharter1978 wrote:Does anyone know how to do this? I know there are a lot of brilliant people on this site, and I'm not sure how to convert the 1492 scaled MBE score into a raw number. Thanks.

I believe your score is above the national average, well above the minimum to waive into other jurisdictions if you pass the entire exam. I scored 1302, which is below.

6TimeFailure wrote:

rcharter1978 wrote:Does anyone know how to do this? I know there are a lot of brilliant people on this site, and I'm not sure how to convert the 1492 scaled MBE score into a raw number. Thanks.

I believe your score is slightly above the national average, well above the minimum to waive into other jurisdictions if you pass the entire exam. I scored 1302, which is below.

So you can just imagine how abysmal my essays were

rcharter1978 wrote:

6TimeFailure wrote:

rcharter1978 wrote:Does anyone know how to do this? I know there are a lot of brilliant people on this site, and I'm not sure how to convert the 1492 scaled MBE score into a raw number. Thanks.

I believe your score is slightly above the national average, well above the minimum to waive into other jurisdictions if you pass the entire exam. I scored 1302, which is below.

So you can just imagine how abysmal my essays were

Solely based on the one-timers calculator (which is not 100% accurate), you're raw score is estimated to be around 132, or roughly 69% out of 190. Solid score, man...

robinhoodOO wrote:

rcharter1978 wrote:

6TimeFailure wrote:

rcharter1978 wrote:Does anyone know how to do this? I know there are a lot of brilliant people on this site, and I'm not sure how to convert the 1492 scaled MBE score into a raw number. Thanks.

I believe your score is slightly above the national average, well above the minimum to waive into other jurisdictions if you pass the entire exam. I scored 1302, which is below.

So you can just imagine how abysmal my essays were

Solely based on the one-timers calculator (which is not 100% accurate), you're raw score is estimated to be around 132, or roughly 69% out of 190. Solid score, man...

Thank you -- for the answer and the analysis. And congratulations.

I'm 99.9% sure it's just divided by 10. You're not actually converting it to a raw score, but rather to a 200-point scale (from CA's 2000-point scale).

I'm not 100% sure, but I don't think dividing your scaled score by 10 gets the correct raw score. Looking at the 2011 MBE conversion chart and then filling my results into the One-Timers calculator confirms that the conversion chart is more accurate. The one-timers page also has an approximate conversion on how to determine your score. Unfortunately by dividing my scaled score by 10 gives me a higher score than I really received. Again I am not sure, so if anyone can confirm this it would be appreciated.

My scaled MBE was 1310, which translates to about a 116 raw. So if someone could check my math, (since I went to law school so I wouldn't have to do math) I think the approximate number would be to divide your total scaled score by 11.25 instead of 10. For example, the passing score is a 1440...if you divide it by 11.25...1440/11.25= 128 Raw, which is the magic number. I'm sure someone way smarter than me has figured this out somewhere else on the forums, but this is the first time I've been back in a while.

https://admissions.calbar.ca.gov/Portal ... l_info.pdf

There are two major problems with the above. (1) MBE scaling is not linear. There is no number that you can say "subtract x from your scaled score" or "divide your scaled score by y" to get your raw score and be right. You can be in the ballpark, but only for the heart of the distribution, not the extremes. However, "Divide By 10" is correct for how to find your 200-point scaled score from the 2000-point scale that only California uses

(2) Looking at a MBE Raw to Scaled conversion chart from Feb 2011 tells you nothing about your raw score on any exam other than February 2011. MBE exams have surprisingly wide variation for scale from one exam to another. They use some tricks to measure the difficulty of each exam compared to the two prior administrations and then scale it. So if February is extremely easy and July is super hard, a 127 raw score in February could end up as a 1350, but a 127 raw in July could be a 1440. If you want to see a range of scaled scores that a single raw score can produce, see this calculator http://www.seperac.com/calc-mbe-febjuly.php (If you want to see the range of raw scores needed to get a scaled score, you just have to enter different raw scores over and over again.) Just remember that on the calculator, your 1492 scaled shows up as 149.2 scaled.

I'm incredibly annoyed at how opaque this process is. I literally need to know my raw MBE score in order to know what my next step is (i.e. what state to partially waive into). I haven't found anything besides this thread and the one-timers calculator (nothing on my bar site).

California Bar says:

The MBE portion of the California Bar Examination is a secure examination owned by the National
Conference of Bar Examiners (NCBE). The NCBE does not permit the review of MBE questions,
answers or the answer sheets completed by applicants. Only scaled MBE scores are provided to the
jurisdictions that use the test. Raw scores are not available.

Worker and Parasite wrote: I literally need to know my raw MBE score in order to know what my next step is (i.e. what state to partially waive into).

No state that accepts a transferred MBE score cares what your raw score was. Avoiding retaking the MBE for other states is based on a 200-point scaled score, not a raw score. Divide by 10 and there's your answer.

ETA: If you can't get your scaled score, CA will at least tell you if you meet the standard of the state you want to transfer to.

BVest wrote:

Worker and Parasite wrote: I literally need to know my raw MBE score in order to know what my next step is (i.e. what state to partially waive into).

No state that accepts a transferred MBE score cares what your raw score was. Avoiding retaking the MBE for other states is based on a 200-point scaled score, not a raw score. Divide by 10 and there's your answer.

ETA: If you can't get your scaled score, CA will at least tell you if you meet the standard of the state you want to transfer to.

Oh okay, I've been reading the requirements wrong. Yeah I just need my scaled MBE score, which is 144, enough to meet the 133 standards for DC. Thanks!

Where did you read that Cali will tell me if I meet the standard of the state I want to transfer to? Doesn't the NCBE do that?

Worker and Parasite wrote:

BVest wrote:

Worker and Parasite wrote: I literally need to know my raw MBE score in order to know what my next step is (i.e. what state to partially waive into).

No state that accepts a transferred MBE score cares what your raw score was. Avoiding retaking the MBE for other states is based on a 200-point scaled score, not a raw score. Divide by 10 and there's your answer.

ETA: If you can't get your scaled score, CA will at least tell you if you meet the standard of the state you want to transfer to.

Oh okay, I've been reading the requirements wrong. Yeah I just need my scaled MBE score, which is 144, enough to meet the 133 standards for DC. Thanks!

Where did you read that Cali will tell me if I meet the standard of the state I want to transfer to? Doesn't the NCBE do that?

Yeah, it may be NCBE who does it, but either way, that info's available.

robinhoodOO wrote:

rcharter1978 wrote:

6TimeFailure wrote:

rcharter1978 wrote:Does anyone know how to do this? I know there are a lot of brilliant people on this site, and I'm not sure how to convert the 1492 scaled MBE score into a raw number. Thanks.

I believe your score is slightly above the national average, well above the minimum to waive into other jurisdictions if you pass the entire exam. I scored 1302, which is below.

So you can just imagine how abysmal my essays were

Solely based on the one-timers calculator (which is not 100% accurate), you're raw score is estimated to be around 132, or roughly 69% out of 190. Solid score, man...

Googled "One Timers calculator MBE" and found a page that said "404 Not Found"
What calculator is this?

fadedsunrise wrote:

robinhoodOO wrote:

rcharter1978 wrote:

6TimeFailure wrote:

rcharter1978 wrote:Does anyone know how to do this? I know there are a lot of brilliant people on this site, and I'm not sure how to convert the 1492 scaled MBE score into a raw number. Thanks.

I believe your score is slightly above the national average, well above the minimum to waive into other jurisdictions if you pass the entire exam. I scored 1302, which is below.

So you can just imagine how abysmal my essays were

Solely based on the one-timers calculator (which is not 100% accurate), you're raw score is estimated to be around 132, or roughly 69% out of 190. Solid score, man...

Googled "One Timers calculator MBE" and found a page that said "404 Not Found"
What calculator is this?

It's been updated: https://one-timers.com/one-timers-bar-exam-calculator/

I received the same scaled MBE and with the one timers calculator I received a 135 raw, which correlates to the +14-15 range from raw to scaled for the MBE. This is presuming the 1492 is really a 149.2 MBE scaled. This would also jive by the fact I had over a 145 scaled but less than a 150 scaled.

In the end, it doesn't matter if your essay scores are abysmal, which mine most definitely were. 73 days until redemption.

This is a chart that shows what the scaled MBE converts to for raw:

http://admissions.calbar.ca.gov/Portals ... l_info.pdf