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MPT July 2015

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 1:17 pm
by osbarca
I didn't see an instruction sheet (e.g., memo from the chair of the firm) detailing how the answer should look on the second letter of the MPT exam. Did I miss something completely? It's haunting me, because I was expecting to see it, and wondered if I just moved too fast. The task memo said to do the letter, and to incorporate the facts into analysis, but that's about it. Anyone? (Oregon.)

Re: MPT July 2015

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 1:57 pm
by jaysnooginz
I didn't see any forms for either of mine. You are good.

Re: MPT July 2015

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 2:01 pm
by jul15taker
jaysnooginz wrote:I didn't see any forms for either of mine. You are good.
:shock:

Re: MPT July 2015

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 2:01 pm
by jaysnooginz
jul15taker wrote:
jaysnooginz wrote:I didn't see any forms for either of mine. You are good.
:shock:
Forms as in exemplars that you were supposed to follow exactly. I had instructions that just told me what to write about.

Re: MPT July 2015

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 2:24 pm
by konar
jaysnooginz wrote:
jul15taker wrote:
jaysnooginz wrote:I didn't see any forms for either of mine. You are good.
:shock:
Forms as in exemplars that you were supposed to follow exactly. I had instructions that just told me what to write about.
+1

Re: MPT July 2015

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 2:49 pm
by osbarca
On the second MPT test (the settlement recommendation) the task memo itself said just to write a letter to the client and incorporate the facts into the analysis. But I feel like all our practice exams had the instructions from the head of the firm, or whatever, that said, for example, do headings for each issue, followed by analysis, etc. Just much more instruction in terms of how to organize the letter. The first MPT had those types of instructions, but totally didn't see it in the second one. Just making sure I'm not losing my mind!

Re: MPT July 2015

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 2:52 pm
by jaysnooginz
osbarca wrote:On the second MPT test (the settlement recommendation) the task memo itself said just to write a letter to the client and incorporate the facts into the analysis. But I feel like all our practice exams had the instructions from the head of the firm, or whatever, that said, for example, do headings for each issue, followed by analysis, etc. Just much more instruction in terms of how to organize the letter. The first MPT had those types of instructions, but totally didn't see it in the second one. Just making sure I'm not losing my mind!
You aren't if you got the two client letter MPTs. I cannot speak to the other ones that people took.

Re: MPT July 2015

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 3:32 pm
by NYKfanAIesq
jaysnooginz wrote:
osbarca wrote:On the second MPT test (the settlement recommendation) the task memo itself said just to write a letter to the client and incorporate the facts into the analysis. But I feel like all our practice exams had the instructions from the head of the firm, or whatever, that said, for example, do headings for each issue, followed by analysis, etc. Just much more instruction in terms of how to organize the letter. The first MPT had those types of instructions, but totally didn't see it in the second one. Just making sure I'm not losing my mind!
You aren't if you got the two client letter MPTs. I cannot speak to the other ones that people took.
Mine just said write a letter reccomending settlement/no settlement incorporating facts into legal analysis. straightforward.

Re: MPT July 2015

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 3:39 pm
by cram1
Mine was an opinion letter, and the instructions went into a lot of detail on how they wanted the letter to look.

Re: MPT July 2015

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 4:28 pm
by Mactx
Two MPTs?? Gross.

Re: MPT July 2015

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 4:47 pm
by gregfootball2001
Does anyone know what an "average" MPT score is? My state only publishes average MBE scores.

Re: MPT July 2015

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 4:54 pm
by jaysnooginz
Mactx wrote:Two MPTs?? Gross.

All UBE states have two MPTs if i'm not mistaken.

Re: MPT July 2015

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 5:45 pm
by rinkrat19
Mactx wrote:Two MPTs?? Gross.
MPTs are the easiest part of the exam. If I pass, it will be because OR has 2 MPTs worth as much as the 6 essays.

Re: MPT July 2015

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 5:56 pm
by Mactx
rinkrat19 wrote:
Mactx wrote:Two MPTs?? Gross.
MPTs are the easiest part of the exam. If I pass, it will be because OR has 2 MPTs worth as much as the 6 essays.
Seriously?? I'll take 2 MPTs over 6 essays any day!

Re: MPT July 2015

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 6:02 pm
by rinkrat19
Mactx wrote:
rinkrat19 wrote:
Mactx wrote:Two MPTs?? Gross.
MPTs are the easiest part of the exam. If I pass, it will be because OR has 2 MPTs worth as much as the 6 essays.
Seriously?? I'll take 2 MPTs over 6 essays any day!
Yeah, I'm saying that we had both 2 MPTs (25%) and 6 essays (25%). I suck at essays, so if I passed, it'll be thanks to those MPTs worth 12.5% each.

Re: MPT July 2015

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 7:16 pm
by osbarca
NYKfanAIesq wrote:
jaysnooginz wrote:
osbarca wrote:On the second MPT test (the settlement recommendation) the task memo itself said just to write a letter to the client and incorporate the facts into the analysis. But I feel like all our practice exams had the instructions from the head of the firm, or whatever, that said, for example, do headings for each issue, followed by analysis, etc. Just much more instruction in terms of how to organize the letter. The first MPT had those types of instructions, but totally didn't see it in the second one. Just making sure I'm not losing my mind!
You aren't if you got the two client letter MPTs. I cannot speak to the other ones that people took.
Mine just said write a letter reccomending settlement/no settlement incorporating facts into legal analysis. straightforward.

Awesome, thanks. One less thing to worry about. That's all I saw, too. Now, back to freaking out about the MBE.

Re: MPT July 2015

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 7:18 pm
by osbarca
I would take 20 MPT's over essays and/or MBE any day of the week.

Re: MPT July 2015

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 9:31 pm
by NYKfanAIesq
jaysnooginz wrote:
Mactx wrote:Two MPTs?? Gross.

All UBE states have two MPTs if i'm not mistaken.
That explains it. I was confused about the whole 2 MPT thing. MD only has one.