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- spleenworship
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how much do you have to study....
...for a bar exam in a second state when you passed by a fair amount in the first state, and they are roughly of the same difficulty?
Anyone here taken a second bar exam in another state within 3 years of their first and pass? If so, how much did you study?
I might need to move for 3-8 years to another state before I can return home, depending on where my wife goes to school and a variety of other variables.
I can't remember shit about anything but con law, crim, torts, civ pro, and crim pro. Well, and family law, but my state's family law isn't easily transferable to like 39 other states or something (civil based, not common law).
Any tips or tricks would be appreciated.
Anyone here taken a second bar exam in another state within 3 years of their first and pass? If so, how much did you study?
I might need to move for 3-8 years to another state before I can return home, depending on where my wife goes to school and a variety of other variables.
I can't remember shit about anything but con law, crim, torts, civ pro, and crim pro. Well, and family law, but my state's family law isn't easily transferable to like 39 other states or something (civil based, not common law).
Any tips or tricks would be appreciated.
- SpAcEmAn SpLiFF
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Re: how much do you have to study....
I'm a class of 2012 grad. Passed NY/NJ on the first try and failed the CA this past Feb. I'm about to retake next week.
Working full-time and studying is an entirely different beast; you'll need a lot of discipline for 2-3 months.
Working full-time and studying is an entirely different beast; you'll need a lot of discipline for 2-3 months.
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Re: how much do you have to study....
You might have said this in another post, but what crimped you in Feb?SpAcEmAn SpLiFF wrote:I'm a class of 2012 grad. Passed NY/NJ on the first try and failed the CA this past Feb. I'm about to retake next week.
Working full-time and studying is an entirely different beast; you'll need a lot of discipline for 2-3 months.
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Re: how much do you have to study....
And, I guess before your threat is hijacked by the likes of me: Many states have reciprocity depending on various factors (i.e. standing and how long you've been licensed, where you're from, etc.).spleenworship wrote:...for a bar exam in a second state when you passed by a fair amount in the first state, and they are roughly of the same difficulty?
Anyone here taken a second bar exam in another state within 3 years of their first and pass? If so, how much did you study?
I might need to move for 3-8 years to another state before I can return home, depending on where my wife goes to school and a variety of other variables.
I can't remember shit about anything but con law, crim, torts, civ pro, and crim pro. Well, and family law, but my state's family law isn't easily transferable to like 39 other states or something (civil based, not common law).
Any tips or tricks would be appreciated.
Here's a chart: http://www.juristech.com/state-reciprocity-chart
Outside of that, I've heard from several attorneys that they often fail for lack of studying in taking a second bar. Practical knowledge does little to nothing when taking a Bar.
- spleenworship
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Re: how much do you have to study....
This is not what I wanted to hear. The states she is looking at don't do reciprocity except for 5 years or more practice, which I don't have.
Ugh. Studying full time on top of work would be a bitch.
I guess I shouldn't be too surprised though.
Ugh. Studying full time on top of work would be a bitch.
I guess I shouldn't be too surprised though.
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Re: how much do you have to study....
Also depends on how the new state weighs the test. A 50% MBE could be beneficial if another 10% is some performance test. More practical knowledge and less memorizing.
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Re: how much do you have to study....
robinhoodOO wrote:And, I guess before your threat is hijacked by the likes of me: Many states have reciprocity depending on various factors (i.e. standing and how long you've been licensed, where you're from, etc.).spleenworship wrote:...for a bar exam in a second state when you passed by a fair amount in the first state, and they are roughly of the same difficulty?
Anyone here taken a second bar exam in another state within 3 years of their first and pass? If so, how much did you study?
I might need to move for 3-8 years to another state before I can return home, depending on where my wife goes to school and a variety of other variables.
I can't remember shit about anything but con law, crim, torts, civ pro, and crim pro. Well, and family law, but my state's family law isn't easily transferable to like 39 other states or something (civil based, not common law).
Any tips or tricks would be appreciated.
Here's a chart: http://www.juristech.com/state-reciprocity-chart
Outside of that, I've heard from several attorneys that they often fail for lack of studying in taking a second bar. Practical knowledge does little to nothing when taking a Bar.
i dont want to detour the thread, but why in the world does NY have reciprocity with like 15 states but NOT NJ or CT?! (but PA yes?) There must be a legit reason....
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Re: how much do you have to study....
States don't typically have reciprocity with states that don't have mutual reciprocity. In other words, it probably has something to do with the fact that NJ doesn't have any reciprocity.victortsoi wrote:robinhoodOO wrote:And, I guess before your threat is hijacked by the likes of me: Many states have reciprocity depending on various factors (i.e. standing and how long you've been licensed, where you're from, etc.).spleenworship wrote:...for a bar exam in a second state when you passed by a fair amount in the first state, and they are roughly of the same difficulty?
Anyone here taken a second bar exam in another state within 3 years of their first and pass? If so, how much did you study?
I might need to move for 3-8 years to another state before I can return home, depending on where my wife goes to school and a variety of other variables.
I can't remember shit about anything but con law, crim, torts, civ pro, and crim pro. Well, and family law, but my state's family law isn't easily transferable to like 39 other states or something (civil based, not common law).
Any tips or tricks would be appreciated.
Here's a chart: http://www.juristech.com/state-reciprocity-chart
Outside of that, I've heard from several attorneys that they often fail for lack of studying in taking a second bar. Practical knowledge does little to nothing when taking a Bar.
i dont want to detour the thread, but why in the world does NY have reciprocity with like 15 states but NOT NJ or CT?! (but PA yes?) There must be a legit reason....
Also, I believe their list is not entirely complete, because CT does have reciprocity with NY and vice versa: http://www.nybarexam.org/AOM/AdmissiononMotion.htm
- SpAcEmAn SpLiFF
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Re: how much do you have to study....
It was partially because I didn't take it as seriously as I should have, but it was mainly because it's just insanely hard to study after coming home from a 9-10 hr workday. Maybe my brain would've been more receptive to learning some law after an entire day of work if I hadn't already been practicing law all day, but I'll never know. I'd come home from work everyday and be so fried that I could barely sit through some barbri lectures. However, I definitely could've taken it more seriously too. There was a week in late January where I had no work and I did some MBE questions in the office at a relaxed pace. I also worked out semi-regularly until about 2 weeks before the test. My plan was to shoot for that minimal competency line and do not an ounce of extra work beyond that. In retrospect, I would've studied frantically for a miserable two months, just to get it over with.robinhoodOO wrote:You might have said this in another post, but what crimped you in Feb?SpAcEmAn SpLiFF wrote:I'm a class of 2012 grad. Passed NY/NJ on the first try and failed the CA this past Feb. I'm about to retake next week.
Working full-time and studying is an entirely different beast; you'll need a lot of discipline for 2-3 months.