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Where is a good place to start studying for the bar?

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 3:13 am
by Tom Joad
Anybody have any pointers? I guess my jurisdiction is part written and part multiple choice, so I think I will mainly work on the written part. They don't let you bring in any notes.

Re: Where is a good place to start studying for the bar?

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 7:25 am
by Elston Gunn
a library or coffee shop

Re: Where is a good place to start studying for the bar?

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 11:05 am
by Tom Joad
haha serious replies only.

Re: Where is a good place to start studying for the bar?

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 2:58 pm
by BVest
Tom Joad wrote:haha serious replies only.
Wait, was this a serious thread? If so, I hope you're taking my bar.

You don't have time to study all the subjects you need to study. I'd recommend looking at the list of topics that will be on the MBE (the mult choice) and the list of topics that will be on your essay portion (see the state bar examiners site), then starting with whatever subjects appear on both lists. Don't bother trying to learn your state's differences from the majority views tested on the MBE.

After that, study the other MBE subjects.

For the essays where you don't know anything about the subject, you'll just have to identify some issue that you think might be important, make up a rule that sounds fair, and then apply your rule to the facts.

Re: Where is a good place to start studying for the bar?

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 3:13 pm
by Elston Gunn
You could learn pretty much everything in 13 days. baroutlines.com

Re: Where is a good place to start studying for the bar?

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 4:22 pm
by Tom Joad
BVest wrote:
Tom Joad wrote:haha serious replies only.
Wait, was this a serious thread? If so, I hope you're taking my bar.

You don't have time to study all the subjects you need to study. I'd recommend looking at the list of topics that will be on the MBE (the mult choice) and the list of topics that will be on your essay portion (see the state bar examiners site), then starting with whatever subjects appear on both lists. Don't bother trying to learn your state's differences from the majority views tested on the MBE.

After that, study the other MBE subjects.

For the essays where you don't know anything about the subject, you'll just have to identify some issue that you think might be important, make up a rule that sounds fair, and then apply your rule to the facts.
Alright. Thanks. I think I should do pretty well. I am from the US and went to an elite law school. I found a list of the subjects on my exam and a lot of them are just 1L classes. Sounds like you are taking one of the tests too. Good luck, brochacho!

Re: Where is a good place to start studying for the bar?

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 4:22 pm
by Tom Joad
Elston Gunn wrote:You could learn pretty much everything in 13 days. baroutlines.com
This is dynamite. Thanks.

Re: Where is a good place to start studying for the bar?

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 7:32 pm
by robinhoodOO
BVest wrote:
Tom Joad wrote:haha serious replies only.
Wait, was this a serious thread? If so, I hope you're taking my bar.

You don't have time to study all the subjects you need to study. I'd recommend looking at the list of topics that will be on the MBE (the mult choice) and the list of topics that will be on your essay portion (see the state bar examiners site), then starting with whatever subjects appear on both lists. Don't bother trying to learn your state's differences from the majority views tested on the MBE.

After that, study the other MBE subjects.

For the essays where you don't know anything about the subject, you'll just have to identify some issue that you think might be important, make up a rule that sounds fair, and then apply your rule to the facts.
Considering some states have 90%+ pass rates, I could see it being legit...It'd be funny if CA, though

Re: Where is a good place to start studying for the bar?

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 9:23 pm
by anon sequitur
I think two weeks is pretty doable if you're in an easier state with 50% MBE and no minimum score on the essays. Just do 100-150 questions a day, review the stuff that consistently fucks you up from a good outline, then apply common-law and make up reasonable rules for anything you don't know on the essays. I wouldn't have been confident enough to try on my own, but in retrospect I think I'd that's doable if you do well on standardized tests. MBE questions are more arbitrary than the LSAT by far, but you don't need to do nearly as well to be happy with your performance.

Re: Where is a good place to start studying for the bar?

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 10:05 pm
by A. Nony Mouse
It's Joad. He's not serious.

(I mean, he may not have started studying yet, but if so, it's on purpose.)

Re: Where is a good place to start studying for the bar?

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 10:26 pm
by Tom Joad
A. Nony Mouse wrote:It's Joad. He's not serious.

(I mean, he may not have started studying yet, but if so, it's on purpose.)
I had no idea people start so early, and I had no idea people use classes. I self studied for the LSAT, so I am confident.

Re: Where is a good place to start studying for the bar?

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 10:27 pm
by A. Nony Mouse
dude, don't troll the on-topics.

Re: Where is a good place to start studying for the bar?

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 10:40 pm
by Neff
Probably a troll, but having (almost) finished Barbri I definitely think 2-3 weeks of self-study for an intelligent person can reasonably assure passage for an average state. Get some 1L outlines (free). Do 50 MBE questions a day (Emanuel's book, $43.86 on Amazon). Read old essay prompts and model answers online (free), all of which can be BSed to some extent. Barbri is a grossly overpriced scam and makes its killing preying on law students' insecurities.

Re: Where is a good place to start studying for the bar?

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 10:45 pm
by robinhoodOO
Tom Joad wrote:
A. Nony Mouse wrote:It's Joad. He's not serious.

(I mean, he may not have started studying yet, but if so, it's on purpose.)
I had no idea people start so early, and I had no idea people use classes. I self studied for the LSAT, so I am confident.
Like I said, it depends on the State. Many states are 90%+ pass rate and you can do fuck all and probably pass...But if you had no idea that other states might be significantly different (i.e. CA), I'm suspect of the authenticity of this post...haha

Re: Where is a good place to start studying for the bar?

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 10:47 pm
by 3|ink
Elston Gunn wrote:You could learn pretty much everything in 13 days. baroutlines.com
Are these outlines printable if you buy the online versions?

Re: Where is a good place to start studying for the bar?

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 10:50 pm
by robinhoodOO
3|ink wrote:
Elston Gunn wrote:You could learn pretty much everything in 13 days. baroutlines.com
Are these outlines printable if you buy the online versions?
Long Answer:
Their FAQ provides an answer to this riddle: http://baroutlines.com/faq/#download_materials

Short Answer:
Yes.

Re: Where is a good place to start studying for the bar?

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 10:53 pm
by 3|ink
robinhoodOO wrote:
3|ink wrote:
Elston Gunn wrote:You could learn pretty much everything in 13 days. baroutlines.com
Are these outlines printable if you buy the online versions?
Long Answer:
Their FAQ provides an answer to this riddle: http://baroutlines.com/faq/#download_materials

Short Answer:
Yes.
Thanks. I was thrown off by the fact that they offer an "offline" (cd) version for an extra $10.

Re: Where is a good place to start studying for the bar?

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 11:15 pm
by robinhoodOO
3|ink wrote:
robinhoodOO wrote:
3|ink wrote:
Elston Gunn wrote:You could learn pretty much everything in 13 days. baroutlines.com
Are these outlines printable if you buy the online versions?
Long Answer:
Their FAQ provides an answer to this riddle: http://baroutlines.com/faq/#download_materials

Short Answer:
Yes.
Thanks. I was thrown off by the fact that they offer an "offline" (cd) version for an extra $10.
No worries...I'm frustrated with bar studies and saw an opportunity to be a bit churlish :wink:

Re: Where is a good place to start studying for the bar?

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 11:42 pm
by Tom Joad
robinhoodOO wrote:
3|ink wrote:
robinhoodOO wrote:
3|ink wrote:
Elston Gunn wrote:You could learn pretty much everything in 13 days. baroutlines.com
Are these outlines printable if you buy the online versions?
Long Answer:
Their FAQ provides an answer to this riddle: http://baroutlines.com/faq/#download_materials

Short Answer:
Yes.
Thanks. I was thrown off by the fact that they offer an "offline" (cd) version for an extra $10.
No worries...I'm frustrated with bar studies and saw an opportunity to be a bit churlish :wink:
lmao. I ordered the offline cd version, but I guess I would receive it until around the 20th. More time to chill, I guess.

Re: Where is a good place to start studying for the bar?

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 1:38 am
by robinhoodOO
Tom Joad wrote:
robinhoodOO wrote:
3|ink wrote:
robinhoodOO wrote:
3|ink wrote:
Elston Gunn wrote:You could learn pretty much everything in 13 days. baroutlines.com
Are these outlines printable if you buy the online versions?
Long Answer:
Their FAQ provides an answer to this riddle: http://baroutlines.com/faq/#download_materials

Short Answer:
Yes.
Thanks. I was thrown off by the fact that they offer an "offline" (cd) version for an extra $10.
No worries...I'm frustrated with bar studies and saw an opportunity to be a bit churlish :wink:
lmao. I ordered the offline cd version, but I guess I would receive it until around the 20th. More time to chill, I guess.
Haha; now you're just making it obvious...Which state, anyway?

Re: Where is a good place to start studying for the bar?

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 2:15 am
by 941law
Signs you were beat up repeatedly in high school: trolling kids studying for the bar on tls.