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Re: Examsoft needs to refund students for pain and suffering

Post by ajcollege » Thu Jul 31, 2014 2:53 pm

Bonus MBE question:

DwEEb posts to an internet message board for lawyers and law students about a frivolous claim for damages DwEEb plans to submit to a credit card company or the Federal Trade Commission, thinking that strength in numbers will somehow legitimize DwEEb's claim. Is DwEEb correct?

A. Yes, because the Federal Trade Commission has authority over all monetary disputes, regardless of whether they are frivolous.
B. Yes, because DwEEb's theory of damages is based in both law and fact, and DwEEb must be afforded due process.
C. No, because DwEEb must first submit the claim to the credit card company, and then gripe later when the credit card company denies the frivolous claim.
D. No, because DwEEb learns the message board he posts to and is a member of is full of "aspie loners" and "ultra-gunners."


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Re: Examsoft needs to refund students for pain and suffering

Post by crEEp » Thu Jul 31, 2014 3:05 pm

ajcollege wrote:Bonus MBE question:

DwEEb posts to an internet message board for lawyers and law students about a frivolous claim for damages DwEEb plans to submit to a credit card company or the Federal Trade Commission, thinking that strength in numbers will somehow legitimize DwEEb's claim. Is DwEEb correct?

A. Yes, because the Federal Trade Commission has authority over all monetary disputes, regardless of whether they are frivolous.
B. Yes, because DwEEb's theory of damages is based in both law and fact, and DwEEb must be afforded due process.
C. No, because DwEEb must first submit the claim to the credit card company, and then gripe later when the credit card company denies the frivolous claim.
D. No, because DwEEb learns the message board he posts to and is a member of is full of "aspie loners" and "ultra-gunners."
153. Keep trying, and maybe one day you'll make it

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Re: Examsoft needs to refund students for pain and suffering

Post by frankc » Thu Jul 31, 2014 3:06 pm

ah the old "bbbut guys I was just trolling!" backpedal

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Re: Examsoft needs to refund students for pain and suffering

Post by MoneyMay » Thu Jul 31, 2014 4:15 pm

lol @ this thread

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Re: Examsoft needs to refund students for pain and suffering

Post by lacrossebrother » Thu Jul 31, 2014 7:01 pm

Why would examsoft not just shut down?

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Re: Examsoft needs to refund students for pain and suffering

Post by TooManyLoans » Thu Jul 31, 2014 7:08 pm

I must be the only one that didn't have a problem at all uploading my exams.

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Re: Examsoft needs to refund students for pain and suffering

Post by sd5289 » Thu Jul 31, 2014 7:19 pm

Don't intend to derail what is already a "productive" thread by TLS standards, but aside from the screaming about lawsuits and class actions (and contrary to some posters in here, I do think it was a big deal that this happened...the bar exam gives even the most rational person the crazies, and I can't even imagine going through something like this during the actual exam), has there been any explanation/investigation into why this happened? Cause I sure as hell do not want a repeat when I take it next summer.

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Re: Examsoft needs to refund students for pain and suffering

Post by tepper » Fri Aug 01, 2014 3:00 pm

crEEp wrote:
exitoptions wrote:You're not the customer. The state bar examiner is the customer, and they could care less about your stress or pain or suffering. Obviously.
Not according to my credit card statement. I'm honestly thinking about calling American Express, explaining the situation, and requesting to dispute the transaction. At the very least, it's shady, and I don't think American Express wants to deal with shady merchants.
If you're "honestly thinking" about doing that, then I honestly question your actual intelligence, these are the people who will be processing your exam answers. Go ahead and try messing with them, just so that you can get a petty refund.

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Re: Examsoft needs to refund students for pain and suffering

Post by Dafaq » Fri Aug 01, 2014 5:10 pm

Whomever fails the bar could successfully hold Examsoft responsible. Granted they will have to show how they were damaged by Examsoft (given the circumstances, not a high bar).

20,000 exam takers paying $150 = $3M. Examsoft could easily see that figure vanish in a heartbeat. It should get interesting around September/October. I wonder what firm represents Examsoft? They are going to need to hire more lawyers!

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Re: Examsoft needs to refund students for pain and suffering

Post by A. Nony Mouse » Fri Aug 01, 2014 5:44 pm

If you failed the bar because Examsoft didn't upload your answers, sure. If Examsoft uploaded your answers and you failed, you're SOL. (If you're going to argue that you failed the bar because the stress not being able to timely upload your essays meant you choked on the MBE: just no.)

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Post by lacrossebrother » Fri Aug 01, 2014 6:02 pm

Yall should keep discussing this without posting the EULA. It's real productive.

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Re: Examsoft needs to refund students for pain and suffering

Post by bigstumpdriver » Fri Aug 01, 2014 6:33 pm

I can't even just belicorningwareeve how f'ing hard it got was for me.

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Re: Examsoft needs to refund students for pain and suffering

Post by JenDarby » Mon Aug 04, 2014 12:45 pm

sd5289 wrote:Don't intend to derail what is already a "productive" thread by TLS standards, but aside from the screaming about lawsuits and class actions (and contrary to some posters in here, I do think it was a big deal that this happened...the bar exam gives even the most rational person the crazies, and I can't even imagine going through something like this during the actual exam), has there been any explanation/investigation into why this happened? Cause I sure as hell do not want a repeat when I take it next summer.
It really was not necessary for most exam takers to IMMEDIATELY try to upload their exams. Having used the internet once or twice, I figured that systems would be bogged down and never even considered uploading the first day. If your deadline was 26 hours away and you didn't need to hop on a plane immediately after the exam, you could have waited. I opened up my laptop Wednesday morning and it automatically uploaded in 2 seconds.

People can't reasonably believe that the board of examiners would just say "fuck it! no one gets to upload if you missed the deadline because the systems were down!"

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Re: Examsoft needs to refund students for pain and suffering

Post by lacrossebrother » Mon Aug 04, 2014 3:28 pm

Bildungsroman wrote:Cry me a river. ExamSoft screwed up, but the state bars remedied the situation by extending deadlines. What damages have you suffered? Neurotic anxiety for a few hours? This is why nobody likes law students.

If anyone has a story yet of a person whose exam will not get graded thanks to ExamSoft's screwup, I haven't heard it yet.
Hahahahahahahhah
You got called out on dorfonlaw.org for being an asshole.

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Post by lacrossebrother » Mon Aug 04, 2014 3:31 pm

"When failure is not an option" by Lisa McElroy and Katie Rose Guest Pryal, a unc law professor who specializes in mental health. Boom. I told you guys if you step out of this dumb hivemind you might realize that being a liberal alone isn't good enough to make you a nice person.

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Re: Examsoft needs to refund students for pain and suffering

Post by lacrossebrother » Mon Aug 04, 2014 3:33 pm

It's just funny because like you guys all slob over scotusblog and ATL, but dorf is probably the best legal blog going. And bils is enshrined as a dickwad there.

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Re: Examsoft needs to refund students for pain and suffering

Post by Georgia Avenue » Mon Aug 04, 2014 5:10 pm

one blog isn't a court of law you half-wit

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Re: Examsoft needs to refund students for pain and suffering

Post by moneybagsphd » Mon Aug 04, 2014 5:42 pm

LJL at the tough guy bluster ITT.

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Re: Examsoft needs to refund students for pain and suffering

Post by jrf12886 » Mon Aug 04, 2014 5:50 pm

I don't really care about the $150 or the stress (you do realize that everyone experienced this stress equally, other than handwriters). I do hope a few states/scools drop ExamSoft for being so incompetent. How do you not prepare for a large volume of data when you know exactly how many people will be uploading at a given time? This is a "you had one job" kinda situation.

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Re: Examsoft needs to refund students for pain and suffering

Post by lacrossebrother » Mon Aug 04, 2014 8:52 pm

moneybagsphd wrote:LJL at the tough guy bluster ITT.
That's pretty much my sentiment too. " SUCK IT UP. DO YOU EVEN KNOW THE ELEMENTS OF NIED???" Like, get a hold of reality. That would fucking suck to not get to upload your exam.

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Re: Examsoft needs to refund students for pain and suffering

Post by lacrossebrother » Mon Aug 04, 2014 8:53 pm

Georgia Avenue wrote:one blog isn't a court of law you half-wit
Ya but a law professor calling bils out is pretty awesome.

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Re: Examsoft needs to refund students for pain and suffering

Post by duskfall » Tue Aug 05, 2014 3:23 am

ajcollege wrote:Bonus MBE question:

DwEEb posts to an internet message board for lawyers and law students about a frivolous claim for damages DwEEb plans to submit to a credit card company or the Federal Trade Commission, thinking that strength in numbers will somehow legitimize DwEEb's claim. Is DwEEb correct?

A. Yes, because the Federal Trade Commission has authority over all monetary disputes, regardless of whether they are frivolous.
B. Yes, because DwEEb's theory of damages is based in both law and fact, and DwEEb must be afforded due process.
C. No, because DwEEb must first submit the claim to the credit card company, and then gripe later when the credit card company denies the frivolous claim.
D. No, because DwEEb learns the message board he posts to and is a member of is full of "aspie loners" and "ultra-gunners."
wait a minute, nobody answer this dude's question. This question must be a four star or some shit like that on Barbri (five star on Kaplan)

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Re: Examsoft needs to refund students for pain and suffering

Post by mephistopheles » Tue Aug 05, 2014 4:40 am

lacrossebrother wrote:
Georgia Avenue wrote:one blog isn't a court of law you half-wit
Ya but a law professor calling bils out is pretty awesome.

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