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Barbri Simulated MBE

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 9:02 pm
by tepper
I took the simulated MBE this Monday, and got a 131/200 raw score. Barbri says it's a 80% percentile. However, I'm not sure how accurate their data is, 131 seems dangerously close the passing line, and I feel like if I mess up just a few more questions I could've failed. Do you guys know how the MBE scoring works? how much of a curve will there be? Thanks.

Re: Barbri Simulated MBE

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 9:04 pm
by Tanicius
You're going to be okay dude. 120-40 seems to be the range of almost everyone's simulated exams, with 140 on the extreme high end.

Re: Barbri Simulated MBE

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:46 pm
by ShitLawOrBust
that's a good score bro

Re: Barbri Simulated MBE

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:53 pm
by tepper
ShitLawOrBust wrote:that's a good score bro
are you guys serious?

Re: Barbri Simulated MBE

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:54 pm
by ph14
tepper wrote:
ShitLawOrBust wrote:that's a good score bro
are you guys serious?
Keep in mind that's your raw, not your scaled MBE score. A 131 raw is probably somewhere in the 140s+ when it gets scaled.

Re: Barbri Simulated MBE

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:59 pm
by tepper
ph14 wrote:
tepper wrote:
ShitLawOrBust wrote:that's a good score bro
are you guys serious?
Keep in mind that's your raw, not your scaled MBE score. A 131 raw is probably somewhere in the 140s+ when it gets scaled.
I see, thanks.

Re: Barbri Simulated MBE

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:59 pm
by bigstumpdriver
ph14 wrote:
tepper wrote:
ShitLawOrBust wrote:that's a good score bro
are you guys serious?
Keep in mind that's your raw, not your scaled MBE score. A 131 raw is probably somewhere in the 140s+ when it gets scaled.
I got 83. How f'd am I?

Re: Barbri Simulated MBE

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:02 pm
by ph14
bigstumpdriver wrote:
ph14 wrote:
tepper wrote:
ShitLawOrBust wrote:that's a good score bro
are you guys serious?
Keep in mind that's your raw, not your scaled MBE score. A 131 raw is probably somewhere in the 140s+ when it gets scaled.
I got 83. How f'd am I?
Considering that there are 3 weeks left, I would not say you're "f'd." I would focus on learning 80% of the MBE subject material well and realize that you're not going to know the finer points of the Rule Against Perpetuities. Knowing a good chunk of the material well should take you a long ways. Also, get the Emanuel MBE book and go through 1 question at a time. Answer the question, then read the explanation (while it's still super fresh in your memory). You shouldn't be worried about timing, etc. right now.

Re: Barbri Simulated MBE

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:06 pm
by tepper
also I just wanna add that you should really focus on the wrong answers you got and figure out EXACTLY why you got it wrong.

Re: Barbri Simulated MBE

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:37 pm
by At the Drive-In
tepper wrote:I took the simulated MBE this Monday, and got a 131/200 raw score. Barbri says it's a 80% percentile. However, I'm not sure how accurate their data is, 131 seems dangerously close the passing line, and I feel like if I mess up just a few more questions I could've failed. Do you guys know how the MBE scoring works? how much of a curve will there be? Thanks.
Alright, let me break it down for you like this.

The Barbri sim exam is totally raw - it doesn't scale at all. The simulated exam this year had an average score of about 114-116. Your percentile ranking on that is based on the national average of everyone who took the simulated MBE.

The average raw score on the ACTUAL MBE last year, was about ~128. Now, that's 128 out of 190, because 10 questions on the real MBE don't count.

A 128 raw scales to about a 140 in most states, but the scaling of your raw MBE score varies from state to state. In addition, it also varies from year to year.

So if you were looking at a 131 SCALED, yes, you'd probably need to worry, but looking at past bar exams, a 131 will scale anywhere from 139-145, which, while not the highest score ever, is good enough to pass you providing you don't tank any other section too bad.

If you are taking it in a "dumber" MBE state, a 131 would probably scale even higher.

If you want to take a break from bar cramming and want to discuss the math of the whole thing, feel free to message me.

Re: Barbri Simulated MBE

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:57 pm
by tepper
At the Drive-In wrote:
tepper wrote:I took the simulated MBE this Monday, and got a 131/200 raw score. Barbri says it's a 80% percentile. However, I'm not sure how accurate their data is, 131 seems dangerously close the passing line, and I feel like if I mess up just a few more questions I could've failed. Do you guys know how the MBE scoring works? how much of a curve will there be? Thanks.
Alright, let me break it down for you like this.

The Barbri sim exam is totally raw - it doesn't scale at all. The simulated exam this year had an average score of about 114-116. Your percentile ranking on that is based on the national average of everyone who took the simulated MBE.

The average raw score on the ACTUAL MBE last year, was about ~128. Now, that's 128 out of 190, because 10 questions on the real MBE don't count.

A 128 raw scales to about a 140 in most states, but the scaling of your raw MBE score varies from state to state. In addition, it also varies from year to year.

So if you were looking at a 131 SCALED, yes, you'd probably need to worry, but looking at past bar exams, a 131 will scale anywhere from 139-145, which, while not the highest score ever, is good enough to pass you providing you don't tank any other section too bad.

If you are taking it in a "dumber" MBE state, a 131 would probably scale even higher.

If you want to take a break from bar cramming and want to discuss the math of the whole thing, feel free to message me.
appreciate it.