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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Post by fsohn » Fri Oct 17, 2008 12:13 am

I've been told by one of my various pointless mentors that it's not hard to get into other markets with good reason. For example, I plan on going back to Chicago, since I'm from there, and have been told that's not a problem. My mentor applied only to DC, and he got an offer.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Post by Darth Topher » Fri Oct 17, 2008 9:47 am

Do you think that many 1L students get summer jobs with firms at Cornell?



Also, DO a majority of students at Cornell intend on practicing in NYC or is it more diverse? (Ex. Going to practice in DC, Chicago, Texas, LA, etc...)

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Post by fsohn » Fri Oct 17, 2008 9:59 am

The last stats I saw (and, as people on this board will attest, I am horrid with numbers of any sort) were that about 25% of people do firm work in their 1L summer. This probably has to do with a lot of things. First, 1L SA positions are probably usually given to the elite of the elite at HYS. Second, plenty of the kids who would do SA in their 1L year probably want to avoid corporate whoredom for as long as possible. Third, Cornell has an awesome public interest fellowship program, guaranteeing funding for a very broad base of public interest work. All that said, I think if you can find a smaller market where you have connections(I'm thinking of Cleveland, where I have lots of family), it shouldn't be too difficult if you have your heart set on it. Realize though that smaller secondary markets like Cleveland, Phoenix, and the like will not pay the 3000/wk that DC, NYC, and Chicago firms pay.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Post by Darth Topher » Fri Oct 17, 2008 10:33 am

fsohn wrote:The last stats I saw (and, as people on this board will attest, I am horrid with numbers of any sort) were that about 25% of people do firm work in their 1L summer. This probably has to do with a lot of things. First, 1L SA positions are probably usually given to the elite of the elite at HYS. Second, plenty of the kids who would do SA in their 1L year probably want to avoid corporate whoredom for as long as possible. Third, Cornell has an awesome public interest fellowship program, guaranteeing funding for a very broad base of public interest work. All that said, I think if you can find a smaller market where you have connections(I'm thinking of Cleveland, where I have lots of family), it shouldn't be too difficult if you have your heart set on it. Realize though that smaller secondary markets like Cleveland, Phoenix, and the like will not pay the 3000/wk that DC, NYC, and Chicago firms pay.

I worded my question badly...

I meant to emphasize the idea that "Does Cornell place grads nationally after graduation?"

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Post by 18488 » Fri Oct 17, 2008 11:19 am

Darth Topher wrote:
fsohn wrote:The last stats I saw (and, as people on this board will attest, I am horrid with numbers of any sort) were that about 25% of people do firm work in their 1L summer. This probably has to do with a lot of things. First, 1L SA positions are probably usually given to the elite of the elite at HYS. Second, plenty of the kids who would do SA in their 1L year probably want to avoid corporate whoredom for as long as possible. Third, Cornell has an awesome public interest fellowship program, guaranteeing funding for a very broad base of public interest work. All that said, I think if you can find a smaller market where you have connections(I'm thinking of Cleveland, where I have lots of family), it shouldn't be too difficult if you have your heart set on it. Realize though that smaller secondary markets like Cleveland, Phoenix, and the like will not pay the 3000/wk that DC, NYC, and Chicago firms pay.

I worded my question badly...

I meant to emphasize the idea that "Does Cornell place grads nationally after graduation?"
I think this is largely self-selection, but this is from our career services website:

Geographic Distribution

* In New York State: 65%
* Outside New York State: 34%
* Employed outside U.S.: 1%
* Number of states in which employed: 24

I know that a sizable minority goes to California afterward, and I hear we're fairly well represented in Atlanta, DC, and Chicago.
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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Post by wuhoo » Fri Oct 17, 2008 12:06 pm

ditto, much of our placement in NYC seems to be due to self-selection. I know people who did just fine interviewing in DC or Chicago with some excellent firms. Cali is a bit harder to get unless you have a reasonable connection to the area, but it's possible, IP work in CA especially so.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Post by woeisme » Fri Oct 17, 2008 4:35 pm

neskerdoo wrote:woeisme, what class has 4 sections? I am looking at the registrar schedule and I see only groups of 3...
My property class is the only one, I think. It has sections B, C, D, and F.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Post by woeisme » Fri Oct 17, 2008 4:38 pm

Darth Topher wrote:
fsohn wrote:The last stats I saw (and, as people on this board will attest, I am horrid with numbers of any sort) were that about 25% of people do firm work in their 1L summer. This probably has to do with a lot of things. First, 1L SA positions are probably usually given to the elite of the elite at HYS. Second, plenty of the kids who would do SA in their 1L year probably want to avoid corporate whoredom for as long as possible. Third, Cornell has an awesome public interest fellowship program, guaranteeing funding for a very broad base of public interest work. All that said, I think if you can find a smaller market where you have connections(I'm thinking of Cleveland, where I have lots of family), it shouldn't be too difficult if you have your heart set on it. Realize though that smaller secondary markets like Cleveland, Phoenix, and the like will not pay the 3000/wk that DC, NYC, and Chicago firms pay.

I worded my question badly...

I meant to emphasize the idea that "Does Cornell place grads nationally after graduation?"
Yes.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Post by Darth Topher » Sun Oct 19, 2008 6:21 pm

Are there many people from the mid-west at the law school? I would assume there are many from the east coast and some west coast people



Also, is the student body pretty politically diverse? Just curious...

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Post by fsohn » Sun Oct 19, 2008 7:32 pm

There are plenty of Chicagoans. Dunno about the rest of the Midwest.

As for politics, I dunno. There is the predictable "liberal" bias of higher ed to some degree, but I don't get the sense that the student body in the law school (at least the 1L population) is too active in politics. No time, I guess.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Post by neskerdoo » Wed Oct 22, 2008 4:10 pm

Any more questions?!?!!

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Post by 18488 » Wed Oct 22, 2008 4:11 pm

Which Cornell TLSer is the most eager to answer questions?

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Post by 69sofine » Wed Oct 22, 2008 4:17 pm

Can you describe what "Ithaca is gorges" means to you?

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Post by 18488 » Wed Oct 22, 2008 4:37 pm

Ithaca has lots of gorges. They are pretty. That pretty much sums it up.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Post by 69sofine » Wed Oct 22, 2008 4:46 pm

sbrown83 wrote:Ithaca has lots of gorges. They are pretty. That pretty much sums it up.
That was less personal than I was looking for.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Post by Darth Topher » Wed Oct 22, 2008 5:47 pm

The whole Cornell setting seems like some "harry potter hogwarts" type shit

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Post by kn6542 » Wed Oct 22, 2008 8:24 pm

Darth Topher wrote:The whole Cornell setting seems like some "harry potter hogwarts" type shit
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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Post by 18488 » Wed Oct 22, 2008 8:36 pm

haha, one of my friend's facebook status last week was something like "Weather is nice at Hogwarts" or something to that effect.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Post by lsat_fear » Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:24 pm

How would you describe your quality of life in Ithaca?

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Post by fsohn » Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:49 pm

Compared to life in Chicago, not so good. Objectively, not bad. Ithaca is certainly no more than what you make of it.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Post by kn6542 » Wed Oct 22, 2008 11:08 pm

fsohn wrote:Compared to life in Chicago, not so good. Objectively, not bad. Ithaca is certainly no more than what you make of it.
I'd say the opposite. I hated life in Chicago. Of course, I lived in Hyde Park. Off topic, but I especially miss "seven-seven", who had only one working arm because he got drunk and drove directly into a wall. He'd scream "Albino!" at me if he saw me anywhere around town.
But really, Ithaca, is gorges. My apt is old and funky but I have a private little gorge in back, and it suits me fine.
I still maintain that Ithaca is Boulder's nerdy little cousin.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Post by woeisme » Wed Oct 22, 2008 11:56 pm

kn6542 wrote:
fsohn wrote:Compared to life in Chicago, not so good. Objectively, not bad. Ithaca is certainly no more than what you make of it.
I'd say the opposite. I hated life in Chicago. Of course, I lived in Hyde Park. Off topic, but I especially miss "seven-seven", who had only one working arm because he got drunk and drove directly into a wall. He'd scream "Albino!" at me if he saw me anywhere around town.
But really, Ithaca, is gorges. My apt is old and funky but I have a private little gorge in back, and it suits me fine.
I still maintain that Ithaca is Boulder's nerdy little cousin.
I'd certainly rather live in Chicago, ... but Ithaca is debatably better for law school. No complaints from this Chicago native. 8)

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Post by LeahNic » Thu Oct 23, 2008 5:18 pm

I'm a Houston native and I do miss my shopping. :-( And I also know the next four months are going to be nothing like the winter in Houston. But, for a small town, I love Ithaca. I think its great. And I dont have money to do anything anyway-- so its makes more sense to be here.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Post by woeisme » Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:39 pm

Hey guys, quick question here: is Cornell awesome?

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Post by 18488 » Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:41 pm

on a scale of 1 to 10 with 1 being not so awesome and 10 being as awesome as possible, i'd give cornell about a 9.5.

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