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Law Grads: Did you regret turning down an Ivy?
Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 3:37 pm
by silverdoe91
This question is primarily for Law Graduates who turned down an offer from an Ivy League in exchange for more money at a lower ranked school. Did any of you end up regretting your decision? Why or why not?
Re: Law Grads: Did you regret turning down an Ivy?
Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 3:38 pm
by jbagelboy
just go to cornell jesus christ
Re: Law Grads: Did you regret turning down an Ivy?
Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 3:40 pm
by GreenEggs
jbagelboy wrote:just go to cornell jesus christ
land grant ivy not a real ivy
Re: Law Grads: Did you regret turning down an Ivy?
Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 3:54 pm
by kingpin101
DCfilterDC wrote:jbagelboy wrote:just go to cornell jesus christ
land grant ivy not a real ivy
Lol, MIT is also land grant but are you gonna start calling it miTTT?
Re: Law Grads: Did you regret turning down an Ivy?
Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 3:56 pm
by GreenEggs
kingpin101 wrote:DCfilterDC wrote:jbagelboy wrote:just go to cornell jesus christ
land grant ivy not a real ivy
Lol, MIT is also land grant but are you gonna start calling it miTTT?
Yes.
CalTech is known to be superior
Re: Law Grads: Did you regret turning down an Ivy?
Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 4:00 pm
by rpupkin
silverdoe91 wrote:This question is primarily for Law Graduates who turned down an offer from an Ivy League in exchange for more money at a lower ranked school. Did any of you end up regretting your decision? Why or why not?
I think the answer depends on whether you're talking about an "Ivy" (i.e., Cornell, Penn), an Ivy (i.e., Columbia), or an
Ivy (i.e., Yale, Harvard).
Re: Law Grads: Did you regret turning down an Ivy?
Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 4:05 pm
by lymenheimer
Turned down Princeton Law for Duke. Regret my decision every day.
Re: Law Grads: Did you regret turning down an Ivy?
Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 4:13 pm
by cavalier1138
jbagelboy wrote:just go to cornell jesus christ
Seriously. This is getting out of hand.
Re: Law Grads: Did you regret turning down an Ivy?
Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 4:13 pm
by mathis1490
I had an uncle that turned down a lower T14 Ivy for a full scholarship at a small school in NYC. He often speaks of how he regrets not attending the Ivy. When I say often, I mean he tells me that each time we speak.
For what it's worth, he went into PI.
Re: Law Grads: Did you regret turning down an Ivy?
Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 4:17 pm
by jbagelboy
rpupkin wrote:silverdoe91 wrote:This question is primarily for Law Graduates who turned down an offer from an Ivy League in exchange for more money at a lower ranked school. Did any of you end up regretting your decision? Why or why not?
I think the answer depends on whether you're talking about an "Ivy" (i.e., Cornell, Penn), an Ivy (i.e., Columbia), or an
Ivy (i.e., Yale, Harvard).
or an
Ivy (i.e. Dartmouth, Princeton) or an Ivy with a fungal infection (i.e. Brown).
Re: Law Grads: Did you regret turning down an Ivy?
Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 4:20 pm
by sflyr2016
rpupkin wrote:silverdoe91 wrote:This question is primarily for Law Graduates who turned down an offer from an Ivy League in exchange for more money at a lower ranked school. Did any of you end up regretting your decision? Why or why not?
I think the answer depends on whether you're talking about an "Ivy" (i.e., Cornell, Penn), an Ivy (i.e., Columbia), or an
Ivy (i.e., Yale, Harvard).
Lmao.
To op: Fwiw, I attended a T1 and turned down Duke after my 1L year to save money. And I've never regretted that decision. Of course, I landed the job and clerkship I wanted, so it's easy to say that now. Had that not happened, I probably would have regretted it a lot. So my only point is that the only thing you're really going to have buyer's remorse over is spending a lot of time and money on something that didn't pay off while knowing that you could have done something else and it probably would have turned out differently. I don't know how much the debt difference will be, but if you can attend Cornell at a reasonable cost, then I think it is a no-brainier. Keep in mind that as a 0L, you really have no idea how you'll perform; you probably won't rank high enough in your class at the lower-ranked school to give you comparable job prospects that median at Cornell would have given you. For that reason, you should really be considering attending Cornell -- not because of preftige. which it doesn't sound like you care about, but because it will give you a much better chance at getting a good job (however you define it).
Re: Law Grads: Did you regret turning down an Ivy?
Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 4:24 pm
by rpupkin
mathis1490 wrote:I had an uncle that turned down a lower T14 Ivy for a full scholarship at a small school in NYC. He often speaks of how he regrets not attending the Ivy. When I say often, I mean he tells me that each time we speak.
For what it's worth, he went into PI.
Every sentence of this post is hilarious.
Re: Law Grads: Did you regret turning down an Ivy?
Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 4:38 pm
by lymenheimer
sflyr2016 wrote:rpupkin wrote:silverdoe91 wrote:This question is primarily for Law Graduates who turned down an offer from an Ivy League in exchange for more money at a lower ranked school. Did any of you end up regretting your decision? Why or why not?
I think the answer depends on whether you're talking about an "Ivy" (i.e., Cornell, Penn), an Ivy (i.e., Columbia), or an
Ivy (i.e., Yale, Harvard).
Lmao.
To op: Fwiw, I attended a T1 and turned down Duke after my 1L year to save money. And I've never regretted that decision. Of course, I landed the job and clerkship I wanted, so it's easy to say that now. Had that not happened, I probably would have regretted it a lot. So my only point is that the only thing you're really going to have buyer's remorse over is spending a lot of time and money on something that didn't pay off while knowing that you could have done something else and it probably would have turned out differently. I don't know how much the debt difference will be, but if you can attend Cornell at a reasonable cost, then I think it is a no-brainier. Keep in mind that as a 0L, you really have no idea how you'll perform; you probably won't rank high enough in your class at the lower-ranked school to give you comparable job prospects that median at Cornell would have given you. For that reason, you should really be considering attending Cornell -- not because of preftige. which it doesn't sound like you care about, but because it will give you a much better chance at getting a good job (however you define it).
Lol. You obviously didn't read the OP. This is for law grads who turned down an Ivy.

Re: Law Grads: Did you regret turning down an Ivy?
Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 4:47 pm
by sublime
jbagelboy wrote:just go to cornell jesus christ
Re: Law Grads: Did you regret turning down an Ivy?
Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 4:48 pm
by sflyr2016
lymenheimer wrote:sflyr2016 wrote:rpupkin wrote:silverdoe91 wrote:This question is primarily for Law Graduates who turned down an offer from an Ivy League in exchange for more money at a lower ranked school. Did any of you end up regretting your decision? Why or why not?
I think the answer depends on whether you're talking about an "Ivy" (i.e., Cornell, Penn), an Ivy (i.e., Columbia), or an
Ivy (i.e., Yale, Harvard).
Lmao.
To op: Fwiw, I attended a T1 and turned down Duke after my 1L year to save money. And I've never regretted that decision. Of course, I landed the job and clerkship I wanted, so it's easy to say that now. Had that not happened, I probably would have regretted it a lot. So my only point is that the only thing you're really going to have buyer's remorse over is spending a lot of time and money on something that didn't pay off while knowing that you could have done something else and it probably would have turned out differently. I don't know how much the debt difference will be, but if you can attend Cornell at a reasonable cost, then I think it is a no-brainier. Keep in mind that as a 0L, you really have no idea how you'll perform; you probably won't rank high enough in your class at the lower-ranked school to give you comparable job prospects that median at Cornell would have given you. For that reason, you should really be considering attending Cornell -- not because of preftige. which it doesn't sound like you care about, but because it will give you a much better chance at getting a good job (however you define it).
Lol. You obviously didn't read the OP. This is for law grads who turned down an Ivy.

Lol fair enough. So if I understand your interpretation of his question correctly: OP simply wants to know how many ppl later regret not having the lay preftige of an "ivy"? If that's it, my apologies to OP for my useless contribution.
Re: Law Grads: Did you regret turning down an Ivy?
Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 4:50 pm
by Kinky John
I didn't even know Penn State was considered an Ivy
Re: Law Grads: Did you regret turning down an Ivy?
Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 4:56 pm
by Hikikomorist
sflyr2016 wrote:lymenheimer wrote:sflyr2016 wrote:rpupkin wrote:silverdoe91 wrote:This question is primarily for Law Graduates who turned down an offer from an Ivy League in exchange for more money at a lower ranked school. Did any of you end up regretting your decision? Why or why not?
I think the answer depends on whether you're talking about an "Ivy" (i.e., Cornell, Penn), an Ivy (i.e., Columbia), or an
Ivy (i.e., Yale, Harvard).
Lmao.
To op: Fwiw, I attended a T1 and turned down Duke after my 1L year to save money. And I've never regretted that decision. Of course, I landed the job and clerkship I wanted, so it's easy to say that now. Had that not happened, I probably would have regretted it a lot. So my only point is that the only thing you're really going to have buyer's remorse over is spending a lot of time and money on something that didn't pay off while knowing that you could have done something else and it probably would have turned out differently. I don't know how much the debt difference will be, but if you can attend Cornell at a reasonable cost, then I think it is a no-brainier. Keep in mind that as a 0L, you really have no idea how you'll perform; you probably won't rank high enough in your class at the lower-ranked school to give you comparable job prospects that median at Cornell would have given you. For that reason, you should really be considering attending Cornell -- not because of preftige. which it doesn't sound like you care about, but because it will give you a much better chance at getting a good job (however you define it).
Lol. You obviously didn't read the OP. This is for law grads who turned down an Ivy.

Lol fair enough. So if I understand your interpretation of his question correctly: OP simply wants to know how many ppl later regret not having the lay preftige of an "ivy"? If that's it, my apologies to OP for my useless contribution.
To be fair, Duke probably has more lay prestige than Cornell.
Re: Law Grads: Did you regret turning down an Ivy?
Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 5:03 pm
by Winter is Coming
rpupkin wrote:mathis1490 wrote:I had an uncle that turned down a lower T14 Ivy for a full scholarship at a small school in NYC. He often speaks of how he regrets not attending the Ivy. When I say often, I mean he tells me that each time we speak.
For what it's worth, he went into PI.
Every sentence of this post is hilarious.
TLS is so back.
Re: Law Grads: Did you regret turning down an Ivy?
Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 5:17 pm
by jnwa
Kinky John wrote:I didn't even know Penn State was considered an Ivy
It is. The whole Sandusky thing tarnished the brand quite a bit though.
Re: Law Grads: Did you regret turning down an Ivy?
Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 5:29 pm
by lawlorbust
Hikikomorist wrote:sflyr2016 wrote:lymenheimer wrote:sflyr2016 wrote:rpupkin wrote:silverdoe91 wrote:This question is primarily for Law Graduates who turned down an offer from an Ivy League in exchange for more money at a lower ranked school. Did any of you end up regretting your decision? Why or why not?
I think the answer depends on whether you're talking about an "Ivy" (i.e., Cornell, Penn), an Ivy (i.e., Columbia), or an
Ivy (i.e., Yale, Harvard).
Lmao.
To op: Fwiw, I attended a T1 and turned down Duke after my 1L year to save money. And I've never regretted that decision. Of course, I landed the job and clerkship I wanted, so it's easy to say that now. Had that not happened, I probably would have regretted it a lot. So my only point is that the only thing you're really going to have buyer's remorse over is spending a lot of time and money on something that didn't pay off while knowing that you could have done something else and it probably would have turned out differently. I don't know how much the debt difference will be, but if you can attend Cornell at a reasonable cost, then I think it is a no-brainier. Keep in mind that as a 0L, you really have no idea how you'll perform; you probably won't rank high enough in your class at the lower-ranked school to give you comparable job prospects that median at Cornell would have given you. For that reason, you should really be considering attending Cornell -- not because of preftige. which it doesn't sound like you care about, but because it will give you a much better chance at getting a good job (however you define it).
Lol. You obviously didn't read the OP. This is for law grads who turned down an Ivy.

Lol fair enough. So if I understand your interpretation of his question correctly: OP simply wants to know how many ppl later regret not having the lay preftige of an "ivy"? If that's it, my apologies to OP for my useless contribution.
To be fair, Duke probably has more lay prestige than Cornell.
Agreed. Roll tide!!
Re: Law Grads: Did you regret turning down an Ivy?
Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 6:15 pm
by Babum
sublime wrote:jbagelboy wrote:just go to cornell jesus christ
Re: Law Grads: Did you regret turning down an Ivy?
Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 6:39 pm
by SLS_AMG
OP should obviously go to Cornell. He/she has already got the indelible "Ivy" complex that goes hand-in-hand with attendance at Cornell. See Andy Bernard of The Office for a caricaturization.
Just don't be offended when you arent invited to mixers and other social events designated for real Ivies.
HTH.
Re: Law Grads: Did you regret turning down an Ivy?
Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 6:44 pm
by TFALAWL
jbagelboy wrote:rpupkin wrote:silverdoe91 wrote:This question is primarily for Law Graduates who turned down an offer from an Ivy League in exchange for more money at a lower ranked school. Did any of you end up regretting your decision? Why or why not?
I think the answer depends on whether you're talking about an "Ivy" (i.e., Cornell, Penn), an Ivy (i.e., Columbia), or an
Ivy (i.e., Yale, Harvard).
or an
Ivy (i.e. Dartmouth, Princeton) or an Ivy with a fungal infection (i.e. Brown).
You forgot
Public Ivy (i.e. Berkeley, Virginia, Michigan)
Re: Law Grads: Did you regret turning down an Ivy?
Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2016 10:20 pm
by silverdoe91
SLS_AMG wrote:OP should obviously go to Cornell. He/she has already got the indelible "Ivy" complex that goes hand-in-hand with attendance at Cornell. See Andy Bernard of The Office for a caricaturization.
Just don't be offended when you arent invited to mixers and other social events designated for real Ivies.
HTH.
Lol, what do you mean by that? What makes it seem like I have an "Ivy complex?" I've just heard that those schools are better and prestige matters in some areas of the law, so I was wondering how much of an impact it makes realistically speaking.
Re: Law Grads: Did you regret turning down an Ivy?
Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2016 10:27 pm
by silverdoe91
sflyr2016 wrote:rpupkin wrote:silverdoe91 wrote:This question is primarily for Law Graduates who turned down an offer from an Ivy League in exchange for more money at a lower ranked school. Did any of you end up regretting your decision? Why or why not?
I think the answer depends on whether you're talking about an "Ivy" (i.e., Cornell, Penn), an Ivy (i.e., Columbia), or an
Ivy (i.e., Yale, Harvard).
Lmao.
To op: Fwiw, I attended a T1 and turned down Duke after my 1L year to save money. And I've never regretted that decision. Of course, I landed the job and clerkship I wanted, so it's easy to say that now. Had that not happened, I probably would have regretted it a lot. So my only point is that the only thing you're really going to have buyer's remorse over is spending a lot of time and money on something that didn't pay off while knowing that you could have done something else and it probably would have turned out differently. I don't know how much the debt difference will be, but if you can attend Cornell at a reasonable cost, then I think it is a no-brainier. Keep in mind that as a 0L, you really have no idea how you'll perform; you probably won't rank high enough in your class at the lower-ranked school to give you comparable job prospects that median at Cornell would have given you. For that reason, you should really be considering attending Cornell -- not because of preftige. which it doesn't sound like you care about, but because it will give you a much better chance at getting a good job (however you define it).
Thank you for your contribution, it really is helpful! Right now I am considering either Cornell at half a ride (still over 100k altogether) or Cardozo for free (unconditional scholarship.) So for the latter, there would not be much buyer's remorse since I would be paying literally nothing to attend school there. There may be a heavy dose of buyer's remorse if I choose Cornell though, because it does not have all the classes I want, that Cardozo does, such as in Entertainment Law and Public Interest Law (Cardozo has more variety in that field) as well as being in debt and later having to pay off loans that I would otherwise not have to pay if I went to Cardozo. I am worried about the job prospects, but since I am not aiming for biglaw I don't think it makes sense to take out over $100k in loans when I can go to law school for free. I'm just wondering, what, if any, other related advantages of going to an "Ivy" like Cornell would I be missing out on that perhaps MIGHT make that $100k debt worth it? Because I don't want to regret it later on.
Also, I've heard before that lower end T14 schools are often not as well-regarded as other Ivies are. Like I've literally heard that at the last firm I worked at (Top 20 BigLaw) they have a corporate culture where they literally make fun of the associates who went to Duke. So if they're nasty like that about Duke, I can't imagine how they would be about Cornell. If going to a bottom tier Ivy will result in that kind of bias, I don't see the point in shelling out $100k and spending the next ten years of my life (or more) paying it off when I can literally go to school for free (and Cardozo happens to have a fairly good reputation with that corporate Law firm I worked at as well as some others in NYC if that's the route I ever want to take.)