GULC Students Taking Questions Forum

[buckiguy_sucks]

Look up the answer to every question on the internet even if you know the answer

[TLSModBot]

Wait I was told there would be swaggity ass xmas presents. it' the only reason I accepted a 2LSA. I need more than cookies.

The promise of 180K is its own reward

[usn26]

Any tips?

Don't stress and just triple check your work during the exam? It's a 10-minute exam and you get an hour, with internet access. Only 2% of what you've studied will make it onto the exam, so it's not super-efficient to study comprehensively when you'll have time to look it up during the exam.

Then again, I had a different prof and bombed my in-class LRW, so don't listen to me.

[Gray]

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[TLSModBot]

Wait I was told there would be swaggity ass xmas presents. it' the only reason I accepted a 2LSA. I need more than cookies.

The promise of 180K is its own reward

I'm not in it for the money I was in it for some useless branded products but I guess my dreams have been crushed.

Oh those come too! You'll be up to your ass is tote bags and water bottles in no time

[EzraFitz]

For DeLaurentis's in-class LRW exam:

What is the best way to prepare for this thing? Looking at past year's exams, it seems that 90% of the material is from her in-class Citation Workshop (which was covered in one day), and 0% of the material is from the required textbook (Tiscione). Yet, I'm reluctant to ignore the Tiscione book altogether. Not really sure what I'm even asking here... Any tips?

The above advice is useful, internet all the way and triple check everything. It is also true that the Citation Workshop was most of the material. The answers are relatively easy when you see it, but you got to see it. So don't overthink it, but don't be lazy with it. My advice is confusing. Sorry.

[Gray]

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[EzraFitz]

For DeLaurentis's in-class LRW exam:

What is the best way to prepare for this thing? Looking at past year's exams, it seems that 90% of the material is from her in-class Citation Workshop (which was covered in one day), and 0% of the material is from the required textbook (Tiscione). Yet, I'm reluctant to ignore the Tiscione book altogether. Not really sure what I'm even asking here... Any tips?

The above advice is useful, internet all the way and triple check everything. It is also true that the Citation Workshop was most of the material. The answers are relatively easy when you see it, but you got to see it. So don't overthink it, but don't be lazy with it. My advice is confusing. Sorry.

Also Tiscione was not our book last year, and there was stuff from our book on the exam.
I'd say in the citations some of the easier stuff to miss might be the correct reporter, correct abbreviations (state specific for statute names but also the BB abbreviation rules generally), or punctuation/capitalization. Tab your bluebook.

Also, there WILL be a case of "F.Supp." vs. "F. Supp.", I can almost guarantee it. And I still use my bluebook tabs from 1L, they're awesome.

[Thelaw23]

Even if, say, you're a prime candidate for higher ranked schools?

Yeah they lowball everyone at first. The more you bother them the more they know that you are actually interested and the more likely they are to make a bigger offer.

I know this is form a long time ago, but the GULC scholarship process starts in February, right?

Do I start bothering them for scholarship before then?

[Gray]

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[buckiguy_sucks]

Even if, say, you're a prime candidate for higher ranked schools?

Yeah they lowball everyone at first. The more you bother them the more they know that you are actually interested and the more likely they are to make a bigger offer.

I know this is form a long time ago, but the GULC scholarship process starts in February, right?

Do I start bothering them for scholarship before then?

yeah i would say just be patient. Either you will receive some sort of communication from them about it, or you will hear about people who have. Before that, they're probably not going to be able to do anything about it anyway.

I wouldn't just sit on my hands though. I'd express interest in scholarships without being pushy. Maybe not until January or so but I would think it could be marginally helpful.

[WhiskeyAndCupcakes]

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[EzraFitz]

Does anyone have anecdotal evidence whether there are repercussions for skipping a class if the Professor does a random sign-in sheet? Apparently I missed one yesterday, and it was only the 2nd time all semester the professor had done a sign-in sheet. We were not given a formal syllabus so I don't know their attendance policy. I'm guessing being on 1 of 2 sheets at the end does not look very good if they check it before grades are released. I didn't have a valid excuse for skipping so I did not let them know beforehand.

I mean, as a general rule, always email, I've never once had a professor even vaguely question a clearly bullshit reason. But if it's not on their syllabus, I bethink you they don't even know your name. I wouldn't stress. I only had one professor who truly cared, and he made is painfully clear.

[buckiguy_sucks]

Someone took tague for PR right? Have an outline you'd like to send my way? (Are outlines for PR a thing?)

[EzraFitz]

Someone took tague for PR right? Have an outline you'd like to send my way? (Are outlines for PR a thing?)

I did, can send something along in the morning.

[Hand]

Someone took tague for PR right? Have an outline you'd like to send my way? (Are outlines for PR a thing?)

I did, can send something along in the morning.

plz do

[EzraFitz]

Sent to everyone who asked.

[Londonbear]

Someone took tague for PR right? Have an outline you'd like to send my way? (Are outlines for PR a thing?)

Best thing for Tague, have pre-written answers for possible questions. This saved me from outlining during the exam for at least one of the questions. If you look at his previous exams, they have minor variances, but are basically the same. You can also tell the differences between A, A-, B+, B exams that he has up there. I spent more time studying the previous exams than my outline. Have a position, mention as many theories and Rules as you can to support both positions, and you're golden.

[ChristineBaskets]

Dumb Question Alert

Since LRW is a cumulative, 4-credit course, that means the final grade will ultimately be equally influential (GPA-wise) as doctrinal courses, correct?

Curious because that graded memo was the absolute worst pile of garbage I've ever produced in my life.

(Also wondering: if writing a memo is physically painful for me, should I just pack it in on this whole "lawyer" thing?)

[buckiguy_sucks]

Dumb Question Alert

Since LRW is a cumulative, 4-credit course, that means the final grade will ultimately be equally influential (GPA-wise) as doctrinal courses, correct?

Curious because that graded memo was the absolute worst pile of garbage I've ever produced in my life.

(Also wondering: if writing a memo is physically painful for me, should I just pack it in on this whole "lawyer" thing?)

very unfortunately yes. the good news is its probably just as garbage for 90%-99% of your classmates


juries still out for me on whether my disastrous brief writing skillz mean i should've dropped out but in 2 deep at this point

[EzraFitz]

Dumb Question Alert

Since LRW is a cumulative, 4-credit course, that means the final grade will ultimately be equally influential (GPA-wise) as doctrinal courses, correct?

Curious because that graded memo was the absolute worst pile of garbage I've ever produced in my life.

(Also wondering: if writing a memo is physically painful for me, should I just pack it in on this whole "lawyer" thing?)

Yes, the grade is equally influential as an individual 4 credit doctrinal.

In terms of the memo writing, anecdotally I came into law school with very little writing experience, and found it extremely difficult, taking a lot of time to learn the ins and outs, suffering through a lot of garbage writing. But as time went on I got better, it got easier, and I no longer loathe it. I don't think one semester of LRW is a good indicator of writing as a lawyer.

[ChristineBaskets]

Thanks guys.

Dumb Question Alert

Since LRW is a cumulative, 4-credit course, that means the final grade will ultimately be equally influential (GPA-wise) as doctrinal courses, correct?

Curious because that graded memo was the absolute worst pile of garbage I've ever produced in my life.

(Also wondering: if writing a memo is physically painful for me, should I just pack it in on this whole "lawyer" thing?)

Yes, the grade is equally influential as an individual 4 credit doctrinal.

In terms of the memo writing, anecdotally I came into law school with very little writing experience, and found it extremely difficult, taking a lot of time to learn the ins and outs, suffering through a lot of garbage writing. But as time went on I got better, it got easier, and I no longer loathe it. I don't think one semester of LRW is a good indicator of writing as a lawyer.

On the one hand that's somewhat comforting. On the other, it would've been nice to get the "suffering through garbage writing" part out of the way before the final exam

[buckiguy_sucks]

it would've been nice to get the "suffering through garbage writing" part out of the way before the final exam

I am still not through this after two externships and plenty of legal research

[EzraFitz]

it would've been nice to get the "suffering through garbage writing" part out of the way before the final exam

I am still not through this after two externships and plenty of legal research

I mean, when I say "through it", I much more mean that it gets easier to where it no longer feels like garbage. But you'll always be learning. And do lots of practice exams. It's a great way to just get hours in of legal writing.