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Do not pay 300k to have my life
Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 12:40 pm
by Desert Fox
This fucking sucks. Not worth it at all. Go to silcon valley u nerds.
Re: Do not pay 300k to have my life
Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 12:44 pm
by chem!
I wasn't going to pay $300k, but I still left law school. Listen to the man, prospective law students. Think long and hard about your decision to go to law school.
Re: Do not pay 300k to have my life
Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 12:47 pm
by utahraptor
would you have gone for free?
if not free, how much money would someone have to give you to go to law school/become a lawyer, knowing what you know now
just wondering
Re: Do not pay 300k to have my life
Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 12:48 pm
by TheodoreKGB
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Re: Do not pay 300k to have my life
Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 12:50 pm
by Desert Fox
utahraptor wrote:would you have gone for free?
if not free, how much money would someone have to give you to go to law school/become a lawyer, knowing what you know now
just wondering
I wouldn't go for free, but it's not as bad of a choice. You can cop some decent legal jobs if you have nodebt. But you are still a broke ass middle middle class bro. Any job that pays a lot sucks.
If I'm going to make 75k, I'd rather be an engineer.
If I was some art history major, it's probably not a terrible deal with NO DEBT.
But no debt requires mommy and daddy to pay roughly 70-100k in living expenses.
Re: Do not pay 300k to have my life
Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 12:51 pm
by downbeat14
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Re: Do not pay 300k to have my life
Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 12:54 pm
by utahraptor
Desert Fox wrote:utahraptor wrote:would you have gone for free?
if not free, how much money would someone have to give you to go to law school/become a lawyer, knowing what you know now
just wondering
I wouldn't go for free, but it's not as bad of a choice. You can cop some decent legal jobs if you have nodebt. But you are still a broke ass middle middle class bro. Any job that pays a lot sucks.
If I'm going to make 75k, I'd rather be an engineer.
If I was some art history major, it's probably not a terrible deal with NO DEBT.
But no debt requires mommy and daddy to pay roughly 70-100k in living expenses.
makes sense/I understand what you're saying
hopefully things will be better for you a few years down the line/once you pay off the debt and can escape
Re: Do not pay 300k to have my life
Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 1:00 pm
by fats provolone
yea by your mid-40s when you've finally righted the ship you'll be ready for full-on "i earned it" boomerdom
Re: Do not pay 300k to have my life
Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 1:01 pm
by utahraptor
fats provolone wrote:yea by your mid-40s when you've finally righted the ship you'll be ready for full-on "i earned it" boomerdom
maybe boomerdom is what happens when you escape thoughts of books and how to read them
Re: Do not pay 300k to have my life
Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 1:04 pm
by Desert Fox
our boomerdome will be strong. The late era millenials are certified nutbags. I bet they'll be putting trigger warnings and their pronouns on their resumes by 2017.
Re: Do not pay 300k to have my life
Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 2:18 pm
by sesto elemento
So with a 75-100k price tag, you still wouldn't go to law school, why is that?
Is it because you still need biglaw to service that debt and working in big law sucks?
Or even with that price tag + no big law + decent legal job = mid class bro, which you could have done w/o law school.
Re: Do not pay 300k to have my life
Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 2:19 pm
by bl1nds1ght
Seems like the theme here is to do it without debt so you aren't beholden to the money.
Although it still sounds like you hate the job itself.
Re: Do not pay 300k to have my life
Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 2:19 pm
by Desert Fox
sesto elemento wrote:So with a 75-100k price tag, you still wouldn't go to law school, why is that?
Is it because you still need biglaw to service that debt and working in big law sucks?
Or even with that price tag + no big law + decent legal job = mid class bro, which you could have done w/o law school.
You either need to do big law, which fucking sucks, or you are still middle or lower middle class working some generic legal job. Which aren't even stable. I'd rather be a rando corporate monkey.
Re: Do not pay 300k to have my life
Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 2:20 pm
by sublime
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Re: Do not pay 300k to have my life
Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 2:21 pm
by Desert Fox
bl1nds1ght wrote:Seems like the theme here is to do it without debt so you aren't beholden to the money.
Although it still sounds like you hate it.
I'm sure it still sucks.
Re: Do not pay 300k to have my life
Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 2:22 pm
by bl1nds1ght
FWIW I really appreciate your honesty and I'm sorry you're unhappy.
Re: Do not pay 300k to have my life
Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 2:41 pm
by Fed_Atty
Desert Fox wrote:
But no debt requires mommy and daddy to pay roughly 70-100k in living expenses.
Or you go part time while working.
Re: Do not pay 300k to have my life
Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 3:45 pm
by banjo
What kind of jobs would you have looked at if you had no debt?
Re: Do not pay 300k to have my life
Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 3:57 pm
by AreJay711
Meh. I like being a lawyer.
But I have no idea what the fuck I paid for. I'm just now getting over the harm to my self-discipline caused by 3 years of dicking around until exam time, drinking away my loan money, and scrambling hard exam time. I guess I learned some shit, but not $60k a year worth.
Re: Do not pay 300k to have my life
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 11:41 pm
by 84651846190
downbeat14 wrote:utahraptor wrote:would you have gone for free?
giving up three of the best years of your life (while you're not old/decrepit) =/= free
Re: Do not pay 300k to have my life
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 1:19 am
by First Offense
Curious DF - how many hours would you say you work a day/week? Not billed, worked.
Re: Do not pay 300k to have my life
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 1:40 am
by MKC
First Offense wrote:Curious DF - how many hours would you say you work a day/week? Not billed, worked.
Billed 70
Worked 40
TLSed 30
Re: Do not pay 300k to have my life
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 1:42 am
by El Principe
AreJay711 wrote:Meh. I like being a lawyer.
But I have no idea what the fuck I paid for. I'm just now getting over the harm to my self-discipline caused by 3 years of dicking around until exam time, drinking away my loan money, and scrambling hard exam time. I guess I learned some shit, but not $60k a year worth.
If it wasn't for the different avy and the 60K a year part, I'd probably have figured I messed around, got drunk and posted this last semester.
Glad I'm not the only one living life on the edge.
Re: Do not pay 300k to have my life
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 2:04 am
by ditch digger
I'm not working big law, but I also find that a part of me dies on the inside each day I go to work. This is mostly due to the fact that I'm studying for the bar exam in another jurisdiction. It will get better after a year, right?
Re: Do not pay 300k to have my life
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 2:09 am
by dabigchina
It could be worse.
You could be billing 2.2k hrs a year ticking and tying financial statements while making 80k like me.