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What percent of self described "top of the class" lying
I think it's gotta be like 50% of self described.
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Yeah, probably at least that.Desert Fox wrote:I think it's gotta be like 50% of self described.
Part of it may be due to the ambiguity of what "top of the class" means and how much students exaggerate their standing. Is it just the #1 person in the entire class? Or top 1%? or top 5? or top 10%? I'm sure some people in the top 20% would even consider themselves as being at the "top of the class".
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Re: What percent of self described "top of the class" lying
Top 10% of people not in the Top 10%?
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0L with a followup question, isn't it poor form to say you're "Top of the Class" unless explicitly asked? Wouldn't "I'm doing well" be a more appropriate response to a question about your grades?mx23250 wrote:Yeah, probably at least that.Desert Fox wrote:I think it's gotta be like 50% of self described.
Part of it may be due to the ambiguity of what "top of the class" means and how much students exaggerate their standing. Is it just the #1 person in the entire class? Or top 1%? or top 5? or top 10%? I'm sure some people in the top 20% would even consider themselves as being at the "top of the class".
On that note, I assume grades are similar to salary in that asking acquaintances or people you only tangentially know would be seen as intrusive / rude unless they volunteered it. What can you possibly say instead of "That's great" or "Keep your chin up." Obviously it's different for friends who you want to congratulate or support depending on the result.
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Re: What percent of self described "top of the class" lying
Depends on the law school.
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Re: What percent of self described "top of the class" lying
bjsesq wrote:Top 10% of people not in the Top 10%?
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The JCLC Storyrayiner wrote:bjsesq wrote:Top 10% of people not in the Top 10%?
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Re: What percent of self described "top of the class" lying
I actually don't think the meaning of "top of the class" depends on the law school. Top 20% at Harvard is more difficult to get than a single digit rank at some really bad schools, but the latter is obviously top of the class and the former isn't.
ETA: My personal impression is that when someone on TLS (in like the clerkship or transfer forums) says that they are "top of the class," my immediate mental impression is around top 5%.
ETA: My personal impression is that when someone on TLS (in like the clerkship or transfer forums) says that they are "top of the class," my immediate mental impression is around top 5%.
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Re: What percent of self described "top of the class" lying
dead.Desert Fox wrote:The JCLC Storyrayiner wrote:bjsesq wrote:Top 10% of people not in the Top 10%?
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Re: What percent of self described "top of the class" lying
worse still, people with good grades lying that they have even better grades
why
why
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That's actually a medical condition called Deep Vein StrombosisIAFG wrote:worse still, people with good grades lying that they have even better grades
why
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Re: What percent of self described "top of the class" lying
bjsesq wrote:That's actually a medical condition called Deep Vein StrombosisIAFG wrote:worse still, people with good grades lying that they have even better grades
why
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I do not understandbk1 wrote:bjsesq wrote:That's actually a medical condition called Deep Vein StrombosisIAFG wrote:worse still, people with good grades lying that they have even better grades
why
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Re: What percent of self described "top of the class" lying
LOLDesert Fox wrote:I do not understandbk1 wrote:bjsesq wrote:That's actually a medical condition called Deep Vein StrombosisIAFG wrote:worse still, people with good grades lying that they have even better grades
why
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and they said literacy was required for litigationDesert Fox wrote:
I do not understand
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They have a HLS grad check my work for me.IAFG wrote:and they said literacy was required for litigationDesert Fox wrote:
I do not understand
(not lying)
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The post where you caught it made me lose my shit.Desert Fox wrote:LOL
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Re: What percent of self described "top of the class" lying
Dredd_2017 wrote:
0L with a followup question, isn't it poor form to say you're "Top of the Class" unless explicitly asked? Wouldn't "I'm doing well" be a more appropriate response to a question about your grades?
On that note, I assume grades are similar to salary in that asking acquaintances or people you only tangentially know would be seen as intrusive / rude unless they volunteered it. What can you possibly say instead of "That's great" or "Keep your chin up." Obviously it's different for friends who you want to congratulate or support depending on the result.
Rule of thumb: if you think its poor form to say something, it probably is.
Would you just go around bragging about how much money you make to someone? Even if randomly asked?Law school grades are like that.
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Re: What percent of self described "top of the class" lying
holy shitbjsesq wrote:That's actually a medical condition called Deep Vein StrombosisIAFG wrote:worse still, people with good grades lying that they have even better grades
why
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Re: What percent of self described "top of the class" lying
I don't get itbjsesq wrote:That's actually a medical condition called Deep Vein StrombosisIAFG wrote:worse still, people with good grades lying that they have even better grades
why
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Re: What percent of self described "top of the class" lying
It took me a couple of tries too...IAFG wrote:and they said literacy was required for litigationDesert Fox wrote:
I do not understand
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Re: What percent of self described "top of the class" lying
northwestern joke afaikrad lulz wrote:I don't get itbjsesq wrote:That's actually a medical condition called Deep Vein StrombosisIAFG wrote:worse still, people with good grades lying that they have even better grades
why
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Re: What percent of self described "top of the class" lying
Aren't you a 0L? Why are you answering these questions.mx23250 wrote:Yeah, probably at least that.Desert Fox wrote:I think it's gotta be like 50% of self described.
Part of it may be due to the ambiguity of what "top of the class" means and how much students exaggerate their standing. Is it just the #1 person in the entire class? Or top 1%? or top 5? or top 10%? I'm sure some people in the top 20% would even consider themselves as being at the "top of the class".
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Don't mention specific grades except with VERY close friends, preferably in another section. Just be vague unless asked directly, and then be as vague as possible while not being awkward. "I did well/okay/could've done better" is about as specific as I'll get with any but the truest of bros. Depending on where you go, this should get drilled into your head throughout 1L until grades. It just sucks because the person bragging about how well they did tends to not realize that their success came at the direct expense of someone else. Bragging about how you got an A in torts to someone who got a B- is kind of shitty.Dredd_2017 wrote:0L with a followup question, isn't it poor form to say you're "Top of the Class" unless explicitly asked? Wouldn't "I'm doing well" be a more appropriate response to a question about your grades?mx23250 wrote:Yeah, probably at least that.Desert Fox wrote:I think it's gotta be like 50% of self described.
Part of it may be due to the ambiguity of what "top of the class" means and how much students exaggerate their standing. Is it just the #1 person in the entire class? Or top 1%? or top 5? or top 10%? I'm sure some people in the top 20% would even consider themselves as being at the "top of the class".
On that note, I assume grades are similar to salary in that asking acquaintances or people you only tangentially know would be seen as intrusive / rude unless they volunteered it. What can you possibly say instead of "That's great" or "Keep your chin up." Obviously it's different for friends who you want to congratulate or support depending on the result.
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And yet, here you are.First Offense wrote:Don't mention specific grades except with VERY close friends, preferably in another section. Just be vague unless asked directly, and then be as vague as possible while not being awkward. "I did well/okay/could've done better" is about as specific as I'll get with any but the truest of bros. Depending on where you go, this should get drilled into your head throughout 1L until grades. It just sucks because the person bragging about how well they did tends to not realize that their success came at the direct expense of someone else. Bragging about how you got an A in torts to someone who got a B- is kind of shitty.Dredd_2017 wrote:0L with a followup question, isn't it poor form to say you're "Top of the Class" unless explicitly asked? Wouldn't "I'm doing well" be a more appropriate response to a question about your grades?mx23250 wrote:Yeah, probably at least that.Desert Fox wrote:I think it's gotta be like 50% of self described.
Part of it may be due to the ambiguity of what "top of the class" means and how much students exaggerate their standing. Is it just the #1 person in the entire class? Or top 1%? or top 5? or top 10%? I'm sure some people in the top 20% would even consider themselves as being at the "top of the class".
On that note, I assume grades are similar to salary in that asking acquaintances or people you only tangentially know would be seen as intrusive / rude unless they volunteered it. What can you possibly say instead of "That's great" or "Keep your chin up." Obviously it's different for friends who you want to congratulate or support depending on the result.
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