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Post by ARM005 » Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:38 pm

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Re: Paralegal at WLRK or IB at JP Morgan for WE

Post by Jchance » Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:39 pm

I'd take IB

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Post by arklaw13 » Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:41 pm

I would take the ibanking job because you could end up making a career out of it. Are we talking an analyst or what? I don't really know if law school is the best choice when you could have a lucrative career in ibanking without 200k of law school debt.

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Re: Paralegal at WLRK or IB at JP Morgan for WE

Post by yadiermolina » Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:49 pm

take IB, and if you don't ABSOLUTELY HATE IT, stay in finance. If you 1) hate it, 2) spend time getting to know lawyers, what they do day to day, etc., and 3) decide thats what you want to do every day for 40 years, then 4) retake for $$$ at a T14 and leverage your WE to get a job. Don't spend 300k on the prestige of law/HLS without doing some serious soul-searching.

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Post by ARM005 » Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:50 pm

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Re: Paralegal at WLRK or IB at JP Morgan for WE

Post by jarofsoup » Sat Apr 26, 2014 4:03 pm

I am pretty sure paralegal at WLRK would also have horrible hours

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Post by Jchance » Sat Apr 26, 2014 4:04 pm

So u think a paralegal at Watchtell works less than 80 hrs per week?

BigLaw lawyers work way more than 80 hrs per week. Don't go to law school if u want to enjoy life.

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Re: Paralegal at WLRK or IB at JP Morgan for WE

Post by ph14 » Sat Apr 26, 2014 4:07 pm

Jchance wrote:So u think a paralegal at Watchtell works less than 80 hrs per week?

BigLaw lawyers work way more than 80 hrs per week. Don't go to law school if u want to enjoy life.
At my biglaw firm, the paralegals generally worked something like 9-5 or 9-6, though they would stay later if they were asked to, which was not super common. I doubt paralegals, even at Wachtell, work 80 hours a week on a regular basis.

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Re: Paralegal at WLRK or IB at JP Morgan for WE

Post by IAFG » Sat Apr 26, 2014 4:14 pm

It's 100% too late to change your mind right

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Post by Lincoln » Sat Apr 26, 2014 4:15 pm

ph14 wrote:
Jchance wrote:So u think a paralegal at Watchtell works less than 80 hrs per week?

BigLaw lawyers work way more than 80 hrs per week. Don't go to law school if u want to enjoy life.
At my biglaw firm, the paralegals generally worked something like 9-5 or 9-6, though they would stay later if they were asked to, which was not super common. I doubt paralegals, even at Wachtell, work 80 hours a week on a regular basis.
My paralegals pull all-nighters with some regularity.

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Post by ph14 » Sat Apr 26, 2014 4:15 pm

ARM005 wrote:
ph14 wrote:
Jchance wrote:So u think a paralegal at Watchtell works less than 80 hrs per week?

BigLaw lawyers work way more than 80 hrs per week. Don't go to law school if u want to enjoy life.
At my biglaw firm, the paralegals generally worked something like 9-5 or 9-6, though they would stay later if they were asked to, which was not super common. I doubt paralegals, even at Wachtell, work 80 hours a week on a regular basis.
I agree. I did as much research as I could, in the paltry week I had to decide, and I found that at WLRK I would work consistent 60 hour weeks with the occasional 80. However, at JP, I would have been working wildly inconsistent weeks that ranged from 80 to sometimes 100. ( I worked two 100 hour weeks in a row during my summer at JP). So I basically asked myself, how would I study for the LSAT or take classes?

Anyways, I've hit an awkward quarter-life crisis where I have no clue what I want to do anymore. I don't even know who I am! (I wouldn't take it that far but I just did haha)
I wouldn't want to work IB hours, personally, even at the compensation. I would much rather be a paralegal. But i'm also a law student and frequent poster on a law school forum, so.

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Re: Paralegal at WLRK or IB at JP Morgan for WE

Post by ph14 » Sat Apr 26, 2014 4:16 pm

Lincoln wrote:
ph14 wrote:
Jchance wrote:So u think a paralegal at Watchtell works less than 80 hrs per week?

BigLaw lawyers work way more than 80 hrs per week. Don't go to law school if u want to enjoy life.
At my biglaw firm, the paralegals generally worked something like 9-5 or 9-6, though they would stay later if they were asked to, which was not super common. I doubt paralegals, even at Wachtell, work 80 hours a week on a regular basis.
My paralegals pull all-nighters with some regularity.
That's rough. Guess the paralegals at my firms were lucky.

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Re: Paralegal at WLRK or IB at JP Morgan for WE

Post by thewaves » Sat Apr 26, 2014 4:21 pm

I'd say IB. Being a paralegal doesn't help much for law school admissions. I would only do the paralegal job if it somehow opens doors to coming back as a future SA, which I doubt WLRK allows. But perhaps the connections you make there will help you elsewhere?

Regardless, I'm sure you're going to get into a great law school.

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Re: Paralegal at WLRK or IB at JP Morgan for WE

Post by rayiner » Sat Apr 26, 2014 4:22 pm

It seems like you turned down the offer at JPM. In which case, you're just asking us to tell you that you didn't make a mistake, which we can't do, because you did. Law school admissions is a numbers game, and 3.7/170 isn't HLS numbers regardless of your recommendations.

I know people who left hedge funds to do law, so I don't think choosing between the two careers is a no-brainer, but a job with JPM is gold, especially in law. Law firms love to see that on a resume. Also, if you don't want to work long hours, you had better gun public interest jobs in law school, because lawyers work very long hours too.
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Post by IAFG » Sat Apr 26, 2014 4:25 pm

ARM005 wrote:
IAFG wrote:It's 100% too late to change your mind right
100% haha

In the one week I had to decide, I didn't know TLS existed lol
Then please back away from this thread and go catch a movie, have a beer on a patio, do something other than wonder about what you can't do over.

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Post by rayiner » Sat Apr 26, 2014 4:33 pm

ARM005 wrote:
rayiner wrote:It seems like you turned down the offer at JPM. In which case, you're just asking us to tell you that you didn't make a mistake, which we can't do, because you did. Law school admissions is a numbers game, and 3.7/170 isn't HLS numbers regardless of your recommendations.

I know people who left hedge funds to do law, so I don't think choosing between the two careers is a no-brainer, but a job with JPM is gold, especially in law. Law firms love to see that on a resume. Also, if you don't want to work long hours, you had better gun public interest jobs in law school, because lawyers work very long hours too.
At the core of my question, I was in fact asking whether or not I made a mistake. Would you think a 3.7/175 would be better for HLS? I've been a lurker for about a month on TLS and the morale is low and borderline melancholic, which frankly, really freaks me out. I hate to say I have a HLS or bust attitude, but I have a HLS or bust attitude.
Yes. A 3.7/175 would make you competitive at HLS. It would guarantee you CLS.

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