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Is there an age cutoff for biglaw?
Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:43 pm
by eric922
Due to switching majors a couple of times and needing to raise my GPA, I've decided to stay on in undergrad for another year. The common wisdom on TLS seems to be that delaying law school by year is a good thing if it gets you into a better school, but I'm wondering if I will be too old for biglaw by the time I get out? If I go by my current plan I'll be 27 when I start law school and 30 when I graduate. I don't necessary mind that, but I am curious know if that will be considered "too old" by the big firms.
Re: Is there an age cutoff for biglaw?
Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:47 pm
by IAFG
LOL I thought you were gonna be 50 or something. If there's a cutoff you're nowhere near it.
Re: Is there an age cutoff for biglaw?
Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:13 pm
by wisdom
No this is fine and in some cases might be preferable. Firms would rather have someone more mature and who wants the money and is willing to make the necessary sacrifices. If anything, they're more apprehensive about the straight from college guy/girl who might be going and getting sloppy on the weekends.
Re: Is there an age cutoff for biglaw?
Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 11:53 pm
by Lacepiece23
wisdom wrote:No this is fine and in some cases might be preferable. Firms would rather have someone more mature and who wants the money and is willing to make the necessary sacrifices. If anything, they're more apprehensive about the straight from college guy/girl who might be going and getting sloppy on the weekends.
I always thought it was the inverse, that they would want the straight from college or younger person because presumably they have no commitments or family and can work whenever jw. I really have no idea.
Re: Is there an age cutoff for biglaw?
Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:16 am
by A. Nony Mouse
Lacepiece23 wrote:wisdom wrote:No this is fine and in some cases might be preferable. Firms would rather have someone more mature and who wants the money and is willing to make the necessary sacrifices. If anything, they're more apprehensive about the straight from college guy/girl who might be going and getting sloppy on the weekends.
I always thought it was the inverse, that they would want the straight from college or younger person because presumably they have no commitments or family and can work whenever jw. I really have no idea.
Depends on the firm. Both views exist. (And I doubt either is a firm rule, more like an assumption can be overcome.)
Re: Is there an age cutoff for biglaw?
Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 1:24 am
by 84651846190
The only people who think 30 is "old" are K-JD 24 year olds trying to pass off their own immaturity as an advantage.
Re: Is there an age cutoff for biglaw?
Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 1:53 am
by thesealocust
Biglaw_Associate_V20 wrote:The only people who think 30 is "old" are K-JD 24 year olds trying to pass off their own immaturity as an advantage.
+1
Re: Is there an age cutoff for biglaw?
Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 1:58 am
by 09042014
Lacepiece23 wrote:wisdom wrote:No this is fine and in some cases might be preferable. Firms would rather have someone more mature and who wants the money and is willing to make the necessary sacrifices. If anything, they're more apprehensive about the straight from college guy/girl who might be going and getting sloppy on the weekends.
I always thought it was the inverse, that they would want the straight from college or younger person because presumably they have no commitments or family and can work whenever jw. I really have no idea.
Never bet against a man with a wife and children who waste all his money.
If I ran a firm I'd have this checklist (YES I KNOW THIS IS ILLEGAL THIS A JOKE):
Is your student loan balance below 150k: No? DING
Do you have a wife: No? DING
Do you have kids (or have a Catholic wife): No? DING
Does Lisa need braces? No? DING
Does your wife know where Nordstroms is: No? I'll make her a 20 dollar gift card
Re: Is there an age cutoff for biglaw?
Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 2:22 am
by bizzybone1313
Desert Fox wrote:Lacepiece23 wrote:wisdom wrote:No this is fine and in some cases might be preferable. Firms would rather have someone more mature and who wants the money and is willing to make the necessary sacrifices. If anything, they're more apprehensive about the straight from college guy/girl who might be going and getting sloppy on the weekends.
I always thought it was the inverse, that they would want the straight from college or younger person because presumably they have no commitments or family and can work whenever jw. I really have no idea.
Never bet against a man with a wife and children who waste all his money.
If I ran a firm I'd have this checklist (YES I KNOW THIS IS ILLEGAL THIS A JOKE):
Is your student loan balance below 150k: No? DING
Do you have a wife: No? DING
Do you have kids (or have a Catholic wife): No? DING
Does Lisa need braces? No? DING
Does your wife know where Nordstroms is: No? I'll make her a 20 dollar gift card
This is pretty funny and actually fairly accurate. I don't get the whole Catholic wife thing. Can you explain that?
Re: Is there an age cutoff for biglaw?
Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 2:23 am
by 09042014
bizzybone1313 wrote:Desert Fox wrote:Lacepiece23 wrote:wisdom wrote:No this is fine and in some cases might be preferable. Firms would rather have someone more mature and who wants the money and is willing to make the necessary sacrifices. If anything, they're more apprehensive about the straight from college guy/girl who might be going and getting sloppy on the weekends.
I always thought it was the inverse, that they would want the straight from college or younger person because presumably they have no commitments or family and can work whenever jw. I really have no idea.
Never bet against a man with a wife and children who waste all his money.
If I ran a firm I'd have this checklist (YES I KNOW THIS IS ILLEGAL THIS A JOKE):
Is your student loan balance below 150k: No? DING
Do you have a wife: No? DING
Do you have kids (or have a Catholic wife): No? DING
Does Lisa need braces? No? DING
Does your wife know where Nordstroms is: No? I'll make her a 20 dollar gift card
This is pretty funny and actually fairly accurate. I don't get the whole Catholic wife thing. Can you explain that?
She'll be pregnant early and often.
Re: Is there an age cutoff for biglaw?
Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 2:48 am
by Clearly
Desert Fox wrote:Lacepiece23 wrote:wisdom wrote:No this is fine and in some cases might be preferable. Firms would rather have someone more mature and who wants the money and is willing to make the necessary sacrifices. If anything, they're more apprehensive about the straight from college guy/girl who might be going and getting sloppy on the weekends.
I always thought it was the inverse, that they would want the straight from college or younger person because presumably they have no commitments or family and can work whenever jw. I really have no idea.
Never bet against a man with a wife and children who waste all his money.
If I ran a firm I'd have this checklist (YES I KNOW THIS IS ILLEGAL THIS A JOKE):
Is your student loan balance below 150k: No? DING
Do you have a wife: No? DING
Do you have kids (or have a Catholic wife): No? DING
Does Lisa need braces? No? DING
Does your wife know where Nordstroms is: No? I'll make her a 20 dollar gift card
Backseat Mod:
You have been warned for humor. Please return to telling people to retake.
Re: Is there an age cutoff for biglaw?
Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 7:58 am
by guano
Desert Fox wrote:Lacepiece23 wrote:wisdom wrote:No this is fine and in some cases might be preferable. Firms would rather have someone more mature and who wants the money and is willing to make the necessary sacrifices. If anything, they're more apprehensive about the straight from college guy/girl who might be going and getting sloppy on the weekends.
I always thought it was the inverse, that they would want the straight from college or younger person because presumably they have no commitments or family and can work whenever jw. I really have no idea.
Never bet against a man with a wife and children who waste all his money.
If I ran a firm I'd have this checklist (YES I KNOW THIS IS ILLEGAL THIS A JOKE):
Is your student loan balance below 150k: No? DING
Do you have a wife: No? DING
Do you have kids (or have a Catholic wife): No? DING
Does Lisa need braces? No? DING
Does your wife know where Nordstroms is: No? I'll make her a 20 dollar gift card
I'll be in like flynn
Re: Is there an age cutoff for biglaw?
Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 6:36 pm
by thesealocust
Desert Fox wrote:Lacepiece23 wrote:wisdom wrote:No this is fine and in some cases might be preferable. Firms would rather have someone more mature and who wants the money and is willing to make the necessary sacrifices. If anything, they're more apprehensive about the straight from college guy/girl who might be going and getting sloppy on the weekends.
I always thought it was the inverse, that they would want the straight from college or younger person because presumably they have no commitments or family and can work whenever jw. I really have no idea.
Never bet against a man with a wife and children who waste all his money.
If I ran a firm I'd have this checklist (YES I KNOW THIS IS ILLEGAL THIS A JOKE):
Is your student loan balance below 150k: No? DING
Do you have a wife: No? DING
Do you have kids (or have a Catholic wife): No? DING
Does Lisa need braces? No? DING
Does your wife know where Nordstroms is: No? I'll make her a 20 dollar gift card
It's a fine balance. Single strivers have no reason to ever leave the office, family people do... your checklist would ensure financial shackles, but come with a lot of out-of-the-office time pressure.
Re: Is there an age cutoff for biglaw?
Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 6:43 pm
by IAFG
thesealocust wrote:
It's a fine balance. Single strivers have no reason to ever leave the office, family people do... your checklist would ensure financial shackles, but come with a lot of out-of-the-office time pressure.
You can bill until 4 a.m. from bed with an infant under your arm.
Re: Is there an age cutoff for biglaw?
Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 6:56 pm
by sinfiery
thesealocust wrote:Biglaw_Associate_V20 wrote:The only people who think 30 is "old" are K-JD 24 year olds trying to pass off their own immaturity as an advantage.
+1
...so this isn't convincing?
Damn
Re: Is there an age cutoff for biglaw?
Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 7:03 pm
by lukertin
bizzybone1313 wrote:This is pretty funny and actually fairly accurate. I don't get the whole Catholic wife thing. Can you explain that?
He could have replaced "Catholic" with "Mormon" and it would have been equally applicable.
Re: Is there an age cutoff for biglaw?
Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 7:06 pm
by Teflon_Don
Biglaw_Associate_V20 wrote:The only people who think 30 is "old" are K-JD 24 year olds trying to pass off their own immaturity as an advantage.
You sound like an old, decaying 30 year old trying to justify their age
Re: Is there an age cutoff for biglaw?
Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 7:23 pm
by Cobretti
Teflon_Don wrote:Biglaw_Associate_V20 wrote:The only people who think 30 is "old" are K-JD 24 year olds trying to pass off their own immaturity as an advantage.
You sound like an old, decaying 30 year old trying to justify their age
GET OFF MY LAWN
Also as someone who will be graduating at 32, partners I've reached out to have said it would likely be an advantage.
Re: Is there an age cutoff for biglaw?
Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:01 pm
by lsatkid007
Is 38 to 40 to old????
Re: Is there an age cutoff for biglaw?
Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 10:54 pm
by stillwater
Biglaw firms only want chill dudes they can count on to be gettin sloppy on the wknds with the partners.