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How hard is it to transfer to HYS from MVPB
Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 11:20 pm
by gaucholaw
1. where would you have to place in % of your class
2. how much would lsat and ug gpa be factored
3. Before I get any "Don't go to law school planning on transferring up".... I'm not, I'm thrilled with where I'm going and INTEND on staying all 3 years.... nonetheless, knowledge is power
Re: How hard is it to transfer to HYS from MVPB
Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 11:32 pm
by txdude45
gaucholaw wrote:1. where would you have to place in % of your class
2. how much would lsat and ug gpa be factored
3. Before I get any "Don't go to law school planning on transferring up".... I'm not, I'm thrilled with where I'm going and INTEND on staying all 3 years.... nonetheless, knowledge is power
Basic 0L TLS research: Roman numeral IV will be of some assistance
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 27&t=82937
tl;dr- LSAT/GPA won't matter a ton b/c you have real grades, but YS may still take a peek. You should be top 20% at a minimum, but top 10% would probably get you in at least 1.
Re: How hard is it to transfer to HYS from MVPB
Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 11:36 pm
by patrickd139
Hey 0L: Don't go to a law school intending to transfer. Mosey on over to the Transfer Forum when you have law school grades.
Re: How hard is it to transfer to HYS from MVPB
Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 11:38 pm
by txdude45
patrickd139 wrote:Hey 0L: Don't go to a law school intending to transfer. Mosey on over to the Transfer Forum when you have law school grades.
I didn't exactly buy #3 either
Re: How hard is it to transfer to HYS from MVPB
Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 11:48 pm
by Bildungsroman
If you're really not going to law school with the intent to transfer and are just asking as a just-in-case question or from curiosity, just do as well as you possibly can, which you should be trying to do anyway.
Re: How hard is it to transfer to HYS from MVPB
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 12:51 am
by gaucholaw
thanks for the link it was helpful.... in regards to the other doubters, let me refrain my question.... under the premise that transferring up could give me leverage to negotiate more money, which definitely is on my mind, rather than transferring in and of itself... (and if im in that position i'd probably wanna stay at mvpb 'if it ain't broke don't fix it'), this thread is purely for conjecture
but if any of you guys know any other ways to renegotiate money during 1L, please let me know!
Re: How hard is it to transfer to HYS from MVPB
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 12:54 am
by Cobretti
gaucholaw wrote:thanks for the link it was helpful.... in regards to the other doubters, let me refrain my question.... under the premise that transferring up could give me leverage to negotiate more money, which definitely is on my mind, rather than transferring in and of itself... (and if im in that position i'd probably wanna stay at mvpb 'if it ain't broke don't fix it'), this thread is purely for conjecture
but if any of you guys know any other ways to renegotiate money during 1L, please let me know!
is negotiating more scholarship money after 1L actually a thing? At that point they already got the benefit from your stats, why would they really care if you transferred? If you do they'll just accept 1 more transfer into the school (edit: at sticker).
Re: How hard is it to transfer to HYS from MVPB
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 11:33 am
by Yukos
mrizza wrote:gaucholaw wrote:thanks for the link it was helpful.... in regards to the other doubters, let me refrain my question.... under the premise that transferring up could give me leverage to negotiate more money, which definitely is on my mind, rather than transferring in and of itself... (and if im in that position i'd probably wanna stay at mvpb 'if it ain't broke don't fix it'), this thread is purely for conjecture
but if any of you guys know any other ways to renegotiate money during 1L, please let me know!
is negotiating more scholarship money after 1L actually a thing? At that point they already got the benefit from your stats, why would they really care if you transferred? If you do they'll just accept 1 more transfer into the school (edit: at sticker).
I have a friend who had a transfer acceptance at HYS; his lower T14 gave him a substantial scholarship to stay. Yes the LSAT/GPA stats don't matter at that point but they want to keep bright students who are probably going to be successful and, at the least, will help their employment stats.
Re: How hard is it to transfer to HYS from MVPB
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 3:06 pm
by 20141023
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Re: How hard is it to transfer to HYS from MVPB
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 7:26 pm
by dailygrind
Regulus wrote:I am interested to hear more about what Yukos mentioned regarding using a successful transfer "up" to negotiate more scholarship with one's current institution. This is the first time I've heard of such a thing.
Hearsay, but I'm pretty sure that most, if not all, of the t14 don't do this.
Re: How hard is it to transfer to HYS from MVPB
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 8:34 pm
by Yukos
dailygrind wrote:Regulus wrote:I am interested to hear more about what Yukos mentioned regarding using a successful transfer "up" to negotiate more scholarship with one's current institution. This is the first time I've heard of such a thing.
Hearsay, but I'm pretty sure that most, if not all, of the t14 don't do this.
It seems like a pretty rare occurrence so I can't out the school without risking outing him, unfortunately.
Re: How hard is it to transfer to HYS from MVPB
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 9:53 pm
by M458
dailygrind wrote:Regulus wrote:I am interested to hear more about what Yukos mentioned regarding using a successful transfer "up" to negotiate more scholarship with one's current institution. This is the first time I've heard of such a thing.
Hearsay, but I'm pretty sure that most, if not all, of the t14 don't do this.
Think I read on the "Northwestern 3Ls answer questions" thread that Northwestern did in fact do this.
Re: How hard is it to transfer to HYS from MVPB
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 11:14 pm
by Rahviveh
I know of one case where it happened at a T8 (sorry for the lame tiering just trying to preserve anonymity lol)
Re: How hard is it to transfer to HYS from MVPB
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:08 pm
by kryptix
If you were top 10% at MVPB, why bother transferring, you'll get a good job anyway...
I guess you could always threaten to transfer for more fin aid though...
Re: How hard is it to transfer to HYS from MVPB
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 5:42 pm
by Micdiddy
Do schools that accept your transfer often/ever offer scholarship? If not, I can't see paying sticker at hys to be much if a threat for leaving a t12.
Re: How hard is it to transfer to HYS from MVPB
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:24 pm
by Tiago Splitter
Micdiddy wrote:Do schools that accept your transfer often/ever offer scholarship? If not, I can't see paying sticker at hys to be much if a threat for leaving a t12.
HYS need based aid is open to everyone, including transfers.
Re: How hard is it to transfer to HYS from MVPB
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 10:39 am
by HeavenWood
Regulus wrote:I have a friend that took the K-JD route and went to Penn, was in the top 10% of his class, but got rejected when he tried to transfer to HY. (Of course, this is just one data point so it doesn't mean much... I just thought I'd throw it out there because it is kinda-sorta related to this thread.)
I am interested to hear more about what Yukos mentioned regarding using a successful transfer "up" to negotiate more scholarship with one's current institution. This is the first time I've heard of such a thing.
Barring extraordinary circumstances, top 10% is the necessary, but not necessarily sufficient, minimum. FWIW, no one knows for sure where the top 10% cut-off is, but it's probably thereabouts a 3.7.
kryptix wrote:If you were top 10% at MVPB, why bother transferring, you'll get a good job anyway...
Academia.