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Sabbath-Observant Jewish 2L Answering Questions
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 12:50 am
by Dayan114
I'm a rising 2L who did well at my CCN (top 10%, LR) while taking 1 day a week off from studying, even during finals. If you are sabbath observant / shomer shabbos / a 7th Day Adventist / what have you and have been stressing over keeping the sabbath during law school, I'm happy to answer questions.
Re: Sabbath-Observant Jewish 2L Answering Questions
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 12:57 am
by laxbrah420
Do you break any of the Jewish rules?
Re: Sabbath-Observant Jewish 2L Answering Questions
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 1:25 am
by rad lulz
What is your favorite book of the Tanakh? I'm kind of a Bereshit bro myself. Mlakhim was pretty cool too.
Re: Sabbath-Observant Jewish 2L Answering Questions
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 1:47 am
by Borg
Why do you choose to be religious, and why Judaism?
Re: Sabbath-Observant Jewish 2L Answering Questions
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 1:53 am
by GeePee
Did CLR make calls today?
Re: Sabbath-Observant Jewish 2L Answering Questions
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 2:11 am
by Dayan114
Borg wrote:Why do you choose to be religious, and why Judaism?
I didn't convert to Judaism, so I don't have a great answer for the second half. I chose to become more observant because it seemed like a more meaningful / intentional way to live, and I really liked the community I found as an undergrad. Not for everyone, obviously, but it works well enough for me.
RadLulz—favorite book is Job/Iyov.
GeePee—no idea (guess that narrows it down a bit).
Re: Sabbath-Observant Jewish 2L Answering Questions
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:45 am
by delusional
I am not an anti-semite. In fact, I have great admiration for the Jew, especially his business acumen. However, I do not understand how Jews can complain about anti-semitism when they refuse to accept the Lord Savior. Can you explain that?
Do you wear that fur hat thingie to class, or what? Also, isn't that cruelty to animals?
Also, are you religious because you believe in certain factual assertions, or because you are part of a community that you like? It was unclear from your last post.
Re: Sabbath-Observant Jewish 2L Answering Questions
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 8:21 am
by swimmer11
Oh man.
Re: Sabbath-Observant Jewish 2L Answering Questions
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 8:39 am
by izy223
Dayan114 wrote:I'm a rising 2L who did well at my CCN (top 10%, LR) while taking 1 day a week off from studying, even during finals. If you are sabbath observant / shomer shabbos / a 7th Day Adventist / what have you and have been stressing over keeping the sabbath during law school, I'm happy to answer questions.
im going to ask an actual question. As a sabbath observant 0L im more nervous about the holidays then sabbath. I assume i can get reading done on saturday (and use post its instead of highighters) and do the bulk of my work the other 6 days, but what did you do about going to class on holidays. This year holidays fall out on the worst possible days monday tuesday and wednesday.
Thanks for posting!
Re: Sabbath-Observant Jewish 2L Answering Questions
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 8:42 am
by mr.hands
Lol.
OP, how many hours a day would you say you worked? I'm curious as to how you planned on making up for missing a whole day every week.
Re: Sabbath-Observant Jewish 2L Answering Questions
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 8:45 am
by dudders
izy223 wrote:Dayan114 wrote:I'm a rising 2L who did well at my CCN (top 10%, LR) while taking 1 day a week off from studying, even during finals. If you are sabbath observant / shomer shabbos / a 7th Day Adventist / what have you and have been stressing over keeping the sabbath during law school, I'm happy to answer questions.
im going to ask an actual question. As a sabbath observant 0L im more nervous about the holidays then sabbath. I assume i can get reading done on saturday (and use post its instead of highighters) and do the bulk of my work the other 6 days, but what did you do about going to class on holidays. This year holidays fall out on the worst possible days monday tuesday and wednesday.
Thanks for posting!
Not Jewish here, but my school would record classes on request for observant students. (With notice, and possibly with clergy documentation? Not sure.) but religious holidays were one of the few ways to get a recording.
Re: Sabbath-Observant Jewish 2L Answering Questions
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 9:13 am
by BEAST_mode
I told that kraut a fucking thousand times that I don't roll on Shabbos!
Re: Sabbath-Observant Jewish 2L Answering Questions
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 9:17 am
by $$$$$$
delusional wrote:I am not an anti-semite. In fact, I have great admiration for the Jew, especially his business acumen
spoken like a true anti-semite
Re: Sabbath-Observant Jewish 2L Answering Questions
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 9:28 am
by Huluba
izy223 wrote:[im going to ask an actual question. As a sabbath observant 0L im more nervous about the holidays then sabbath. I assume i can get reading done on saturday (and use post its instead of highighters) and do the bulk of my work the other 6 days, but what did you do about going to class on holidays. This year holidays fall out on the worst possible days monday tuesday and wednesday.
Thanks for posting![/quote]
Going to jump in here as another observant jew. Holiday's are hard and you should make sure to get recordings of classes you miss. Saturday readings can easily made up on Saturday night or Sunday.
Re: Sabbath-Observant Jewish 2L Answering Questions
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 10:09 am
by Dayan114
izy223 wrote:Dayan114 wrote:I'm a rising 2L who did well at my CCN (top 10%, LR) while taking 1 day a week off from studying, even during finals. If you are sabbath observant / shomer shabbos / a 7th Day Adventist / what have you and have been stressing over keeping the sabbath during law school, I'm happy to answer questions.
im going to ask an actual question. As a sabbath observant 0L im more nervous about the holidays then sabbath. I assume i can get reading done on saturday (and use post its instead of highighters) and do the bulk of my work the other 6 days, but what did you do about going to class on holidays. This year holidays fall out on the worst possible days monday tuesday and wednesday.
Thanks for posting!
So I didn't go at all last year, which was...not the easiest. All of my professors recorded class as a matter of course on the high holidays, and upon request for the others, but I'm not the most auditory learner so I didn't find the recordings super helpful. I tried to make friends early, and send people notes when they were out sick...between those things, I ended up with notes for every class I missed, and those were a lot more helpful when it was time to outline. Profs were also fairly good about office hours—again, at my school missing for holidays was fairly common, and professors seemed to be understanding.
Re: Sabbath-Observant Jewish 2L Answering Questions
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 10:11 am
by Dayan114
mr.hands wrote:Lol.
OP, how many hours a day would you say you worked? I'm curious as to how you planned on making up for missing a whole day every week.
I was at school 9-7 most days, so excluding class that's about 5-6 hours of work. I also worked some Saturday nights, especially closer to finals, and every Sunday all day. Except during finals season, though, I almost never brought work home with me during the week.
Re: Sabbath-Observant Jewish 2L Answering Questions
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 10:18 am
by fatduck
do you roll on shabbos?
Re: Sabbath-Observant Jewish 2L Answering Questions
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 10:28 am
by ru2486
delusional wrote:I am not an anti-semite. In fact, I have great admiration for the Jew, especially his business acumen. However, I do not understand how Jews can complain about anti-semitism when they refuse to accept the Lord Savior. Can you explain that?
Do you wear that fur hat thingie to class, or what? Also, isn't that cruelty to animals?
Also, are you religious because you believe in certain factual assertions, or because you are part of a community that you like? It was unclear from your last post.
Can we get a banhammer up in here?
Re: Sabbath-Observant Jewish 2L Answering Questions
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:02 am
by Younger Abstention
delusional wrote:I am not an anti-semite. In fact, I have great admiration for the Jew, especially his business acumen. However, I do not understand how Jews can complain about anti-semitism when they refuse to accept the Lord Savior. Can you explain that?
Do you wear that fur hat thingie to class, or what? Also, isn't that cruelty to animals?
Also, are you religious because you believe in certain factual assertions, or because you are part of a community that you like? It was unclear from your last post.
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Holy shit -- with 1227 posts under your belt?
Re: Sabbath-Observant Jewish 2L Answering Questions
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:04 am
by fatduck
i actually thought it was kind of funny
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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:57 am
by bloobook
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Re: Sabbath-Observant Jewish 2L Answering Questions
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 1:23 pm
by Dayan114
bloobook wrote:I'm not religious, but I thought this would be a good opportunity to ask you how you manage your time in law school in order to maintain one day off per week (e.g., how many hours do you study daily in addition to each class? do you have a recommended "method" of studying that works for you?) I'd be really curious to hear about this.

Thanks!
First, see above (RE: schedule). Immediately after each class, I did the reading for the following class session (so after Monday Torts, I read Wednesday's Tort assignments). This way, I never allowed myself to fall behind. I also briefed almost every case (though not squib cases). Some people say this is a waste of time; I found it incredibly valuable, both in class when I was called on (which matters less) and when outlining (which matters a great deal more). Because I had solid briefs and notes, I was able to outline without really referring to the casebook, which definitely made that part of my semester more efficient.
Aside from that, the typical advice—take as many of your prof's old exams as you can get your hands on. Review your answers to these w/ a study group. Make your own outlines (you can borrow from other people's, but put things in your own words and don't just cut and paste). Learn the professor, not the law.
Re: Sabbath-Observant Jewish 2L Answering Questions
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 2:01 pm
by laxbrah420
fatduck wrote:i actually thought it was kind of funny
If he gets banned for that I'd be MAF
Re: Sabbath-Observant Jewish 2L Answering Questions
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 2:06 pm
by Dayan114
laxbrah420 wrote:fatduck wrote:i actually thought it was kind of funny
If he gets banned for that I'd be MAF
Didn't want to wade into this (mostly because I don't have enough context to know what's bannable), but why?
Re: Sabbath-Observant Jewish 2L Answering Questions
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 2:11 pm
by fatduck
Dayan114 wrote:laxbrah420 wrote:fatduck wrote:i actually thought it was kind of funny
If he gets banned for that I'd be MAF
Didn't want to wade into this (mostly because I don't have enough context to know what's bannable), but why?
i chuckled at "I am not an anti-semite. In fact, I have great admiration for the Jew, especially his business acumen." i thought it was a movie quote, actually, but it appears to be original.
the rest was kind of weird but mostly just anti-religious in general.