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Softs for NYC law schools

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 6:04 pm
by nosleeptillsuccess
I want to get into Fordham, NYU or Columbia. I'm taking the LSAT in OCT and I have a finance degree from FAU with a 3.38 GPA. What are some strong softs I can get on my record? If you recommend community service, then how many hours should I get? I was a waiter my entire college career and never had time for extracurricular activities. I quit my job a few weeks ago merely for LSAT studying and working on some softs. I really want to make a difference so throw some good ones at me.

Re: Softs for NYC law schools

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 6:13 pm
by Harlyn
Find a cure for cancer.

In all seriousness, assuming you are applying for the fall 2013 school year, it is doubtful that you have enough time to establish a credible soft. Spend your time studying for the LSAT and finding way to market the skills and experience that you currently have. Good luck.

Re: Softs for NYC law schools

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 6:16 pm
by Doorkeeper
Unless you work at a prestigious job, win a major academic award, get published in an academic journal, write a best selling book, win a Pulitzer, or do something else that is particularly of note before applying for law school, these are what matter:

Columbia: 175-177+
NYU: 172-174+
Fordham: 167-170+

Re: Softs for NYC law schools

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 8:55 pm
by nosleeptillsuccess
Well I do run a sportsblog with a few friends that has pretty much "blown up" http://www.beermugsports.com were on track for 1 million views in one month ( hit 50k in 24 hours the other day)... I don't think I should list that because it's geared towards "adults" ... you will see what I mean if you drop by. It's not porn or anything, but we do have pictures up of hot chicks and write profanity to give a comical spin on sports. & I actually would like to get some type of award, how would you recommend I do that? Any known competitions around this time of year?

my current "softs" or "work experience"

-bus boy
-togo specialist
-waiter(cheesecake factory 3 years, Macaroni Grill 2)

-worked at best buy (6 months)

Re: Softs for NYC law schools

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 8:58 pm
by Ruxin1
nosleeptillsuccess wrote:Well I do run a sportsblog with a few friends that has pretty much "blown up" http://www.beermugsports.com were on track for 1 million views in one month ( hit 50k in 24 hours the other day)... I don't think I should list that because it's geared towards "adults" ... you will see what I mean if you drop by. It's not porn or anything, but we do have pictures up of hot chicks and write profanity. & I actually would like to get some type of award, how would you recommend I do that? Any known competitions around this time of year?
You might be best served to get a few years WE to distance yourself from your GPA

Re: Softs for NYC law schools

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 8:59 pm
by Nova
I like the blog. Good luck on the LSAT!!

Re: Softs for NYC law schools

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:03 pm
by nosleeptillsuccess
Thank you so much I appreciate that!!

I appreciate the work experience info as well... but this is a now or never thing for me if you were referring to putting in years of work experience rather than listing what I already have.

Re: Softs for NYC law schools

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:04 pm
by Ruxin1
nosleeptillsuccess wrote:Thank you so much I appreciate that!!

I appreciate the work experience info as well... but this is a now or never thing for me if you were referring to putting in years of work experience rather than listing what I already have.
now or never?

Re: Softs for NYC law schools

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:05 pm
by nosleeptillsuccess
But not listing the blog IS a good idea right? considering the material that it exhibits.. 0_o

Re: Softs for NYC law schools

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:08 pm
by nosleeptillsuccess
did you mean WE as in to get a job relevant to my undergraduate major for a few years then list it??

Or list what I've already done..

If it was the first than I mean I want to get into law school for 2013 Fall and I don't want to burn 2 years then apply in my late 20s. If it was the latter then I misinterpreted your statement.

Re: Softs for NYC law schools

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:09 pm
by Ruxin1
nosleeptillsuccess wrote:did you mean WE as in to get a job relevant to my undergraduate major for a few years then list it??

Or list what I've already done..

If it was the first than I mean I want to get into law school for 2013 Fall and I don't want to burn 2 years then apply in my late 20s. If it was the latter then I misinterpreted your statement.
Post-grad Work experience, say two or three years, then apply. Going straight thru is going to be tough with your low GPA.

Re: Softs for NYC law schools

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:12 pm
by nosleeptillsuccess
I'm not scared of tough... as long as it's feasible I'll find a way. Got my Testmaster course July 20-Oct 1st and I've been crushing those Powerscore books... I'm using this week to write up a good personal statement and get involved in some softs

Re: Softs for NYC law schools

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:14 pm
by Doorkeeper
nosleeptillsuccess wrote:I'm not scared of tough... as long as it's feasible I'll find a way. Got my Testmaster course July 20-Oct 1st and I've been crushing those Powerscore books... I'm using this week to write up a good personal statement and get involved in some softs
Well then softs are irrelevant at this point, and
Doorkeeper wrote:these are what matter:

Columbia: 175-177+
NYU: 172-174+
Fordham: 167-170+

Re: Softs for NYC law schools

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:18 pm
by nosleeptillsuccess
Even though I do plan on carrying them out through 2013?... I think at least partaking in trying to change the world late is better than not at all... I could be wrong.

Re: Softs for NYC law schools

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:27 pm
by Nova
nosleeptillsuccess wrote:Even though I do plan on carrying them out through 2013?... I think at least partaking in trying to change the world late is better than not at all... I could be wrong.
Its just that, like DK said, LS admission is almost completely numbers based. I probably had the worst softs ever and admissions pretty much looked the other way on that because My LSAT was above median.

If you really want to do some volunteer work, think of a cause that you actually care about. Can you run? Maybe you should run in a different charitable 5k every week. Do you have a soft spot for poor people? Volunteer at a shelter or soup kitchen. Do you think youre a good role model? Join the boys and girls club.

Just remember that because your GPA will be a drag on every top schools median, you need to really impress them on the LSAT. That means going above and beyond Testmasters.

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Re: Softs for NYC law schools

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:39 pm
by nosleeptillsuccess
Thank you ... you been such a great help.. I do plan on crushing that LSAT.. I'm in the overview process now just getting through the Powerscore books.. I plan on taking a practice test everyday for the months of August and September..

Re: Softs for NYC law schools

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:54 pm
by ryanfaro
Doorkeeper wrote:
nosleeptillsuccess wrote:I'm not scared of tough... as long as it's feasible I'll find a way. Got my Testmaster course July 20-Oct 1st and I've been crushing those Powerscore books... I'm using this week to write up a good personal statement and get involved in some softs
Well then softs are irrelevant at this point, and
Doorkeeper wrote:these are what matter:

Columbia: 175-177+
NYU: 172-174+
Fordham: 167-170+
I think these numbers are a little exaggerated

Re: Softs for NYC law schools

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:59 pm
by nosleeptillsuccess
I feel like the Fordham numbers are... but I believe my friend here was trying to formulate numbers for a "sure shot" for me. Considering my GPA is low and I lack on softs.. I mean I did graduate with a degree in Finance which has higher difficulty than most majors...

Re: Softs for NYC law schools

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 10:00 pm
by Doorkeeper

Re: Softs for NYC law schools

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 10:07 pm
by ryanfaro
nosleeptillsuccess wrote:I feel like the Fordham numbers are... but I believe my friend here was trying to formulate numbers for a "sure shot" for me. Considering my GPA is low and I lack on softs.. I mean I did graduate with a degree in Finance which has higher difficulty than most majors...
well, like he already said, softs don't matter nearly as much as the LSAT

Re: Softs for NYC law schools

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 10:29 pm
by nosleeptillsuccess
So back to the softs...Should I list the blog? and what are some good softs? lol

Re: Softs for NYC law schools

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 10:38 pm
by dingbat
nosleeptillsuccess wrote:So back to the softs...Should I list the blog? and what are some good softs? lol
Nobel Prize? Olympic medal?

Realistically, there are no softs you are likely to acquire in time for applications to matriculate in 2013.

I have very good softs and my cycle was pretty much dead on target for my numbers.

Re: Softs for NYC law schools

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 11:16 pm
by top30man
dingbat wrote:
nosleeptillsuccess wrote:So back to the softs...Should I list the blog? and what are some good softs? lol
Nobel Prize? Olympic medal?

Realistically, there are no softs you are likely to acquire in time for applications to matriculate in 2013.

I have very good softs and my cycle was pretty much dead on target for my numbers.
This is very true. It's not fascinating, but softs don't matter as much as the Lsat. You'd be best served focusing on that.

Re: Softs for NYC law schools

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 11:16 pm
by JCFindley
dingbat wrote:
nosleeptillsuccess wrote:So back to the softs...Should I list the blog? and what are some good softs? lol
Nobel Prize? Olympic medal?

Realistically, there are no softs you are likely to acquire in time for applications to matriculate in 2013.

I have very good softs and my cycle was pretty much dead on target for my numbers.
Nothing really that you can do in the next year would likely make a difference soft wise. You are probably better off spending that time studying even more for the LSAT.

If you think the blog might possibly offend someone I would leave it off. (Unless you have turned this blog into a huge money maker, then it is more of a successful start-up business.)

I actually had softs that made a huge difference in my cycle but it took a lot longer than a year or two to get them. It is possible just not that likely in a year.

Good luck on the LSAT.

JC

Re: Softs for NYC law schools

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 11:17 pm
by dingbat
top30man wrote:
dingbat wrote:
nosleeptillsuccess wrote:So back to the softs...Should I list the blog? and what are some good softs? lol
Nobel Prize? Olympic medal?

Realistically, there are no softs you are likely to acquire in time for applications to matriculate in 2013.

I have very good softs and my cycle was pretty much dead on target for my numbers.
This is very true. It's not fascinating, but softs don't matter as much as the Lsat. You'd be best served focusing on that.
My softs actually are fascinating. That and a pass gets me a ride on the subway.