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Where will UMASS-Dartmouth law be ranked?

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 2:03 pm
by onetimeonly95
Will it be a TTT?

Re: Where will UMASS-Dartmouth law be ranked?

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 2:03 pm
by baboon309
No.

a TTTT

Re: Where will UMASS-Dartmouth law be ranked?

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 2:46 pm
by darknightbegins
Yeah I'm curious about this myself. The only public law school in the state. I could see the state really trying to push it and improve it in the years to come. But TTT seems likely.

Re: Where will UMASS-Dartmouth law be ranked?

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 2:51 pm
by Kohinoor
Dartmouth Law will def be in the top 20 in my lifetime.

Re: Where will UMASS-Dartmouth law be ranked?

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 2:58 pm
by darknightbegins
Kohinoor wrote:Dartmouth Law will def be in the top 20 in my lifetime.
Wwwhhaat? Top 20? What makes you this confident?

Re: Where will UMASS-Dartmouth law be ranked?

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 3:03 pm
by hiromoto45
darknightbegins wrote:
Kohinoor wrote:Dartmouth Law will def be in the top 20 in my lifetime.
Wwwhhaat? Top 20? What makes you this confident?
I think he means Dartmouth the Ivy League school which doesn't have a law school as a joke.

Re: Where will UMASS-Dartmouth law be ranked?

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 11:16 pm
by darknightbegins
hiromoto45 wrote:
darknightbegins wrote:
Kohinoor wrote:Dartmouth Law will def be in the top 20 in my lifetime.
Wwwhhaat? Top 20? What makes you this confident?
I think he means Dartmouth the Ivy League school which doesn't have a law school as a joke.
Ah, in that case, Princeton Law should crack the T14.

Re: Where will UMASS-Dartmouth law be ranked?

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 11:33 pm
by OneSixtySix
I am so upset at this decision.

UMass-Dartmouth is a mediocre state school to begin with, and the law school they took over was unaccredited and just absolutely pathetic.

Massachusetts deserves a public law school, but does no good by putting forth a T4.

Plus they should have waited for it to be feasible to start a law school in Amherst where the actual UMass is.

Re: Where will UMASS-Dartmouth law be ranked?

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 11:50 pm
by soullesswonder
protip: any school that has explicitly justified its existence as a revenue-generator for the rest of the university system is probably not a good school.

"UMass Dartmouth chancellor Jean MacCormack had previously laid out plans that said the public law school would operate free of taxpayer dollars and eventually funnel millions into UMass Dartmouth and the state through expanded enrollment. Officials have estimated that the school would grow from 235 students to 559 by 2017."

http://abovethelaw.com/2009/12/umass-tr ... aw-school/

Re: Where will UMASS-Dartmouth law be ranked?

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 1:14 pm
by TTH
soullesswonder wrote:protip: any school that has explicitly justified its existence as a revenue-generator for the rest of the university system is probably not a good school.

"UMass Dartmouth chancellor Jean MacCormack had previously laid out plans that said the public law school would operate free of taxpayer dollars and eventually funnel millions into UMass Dartmouth and the state through expanded enrollment. Officials have estimated that the school would grow from 235 students to 559 by 2017."

http://abovethelaw.com/2009/12/umass-tr ... aw-school/
Lulz @ practicing law in Massachusetts.

Re: Where will UMASS-Dartmouth law be ranked?

Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 3:31 pm
by DarkPhantom
Seeing as this was one of the back up schools - probably better to just wait and re-apply than to attend this school?

Re: Where will UMASS-Dartmouth law be ranked?

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 11:58 am
by summerstar
TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

Re: Where will UMASS-Dartmouth law be ranked?

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 12:47 pm
by Veyron
Not as high as Princettton Law.

Re: Where will UMASS-Dartmouth law be ranked?

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 1:12 pm
by vanwinkle
darknightbegins wrote:The only public law school in the state.
I can never understand why people think this matters. The public/private distinction doesn't really matter much in the law school context; if this school places worse than Northeastern, BC, and BU, and costs nearly the same (which ultimately it will), then there's no real advantage to it.

Yes, they're promising it'll be cheaper, but really, by how much? If it's $10K/yr cheaper you're still looking at $25-30K/yr in tuition and $20K/yr in COL expenses; you've ultimately got a debt load over $100K after three years anyway. That's far too much for public service, which is going to be where this school is trying to place people.

Public/private doesn't matter, and given the high minimum that tuition would have to be, saving money doesn't matter much either. Being public doesn't really matter at all from a practical standpoint. Given how tuition at the top "public" law schools has risen to match their private peers, it really doesn't matter anywhere.

Re: Where will UMASS-Dartmouth law be ranked?

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 1:45 pm
by r6_philly
Yet they continue to play this marketing game, and people are falling for it.

Re: Where will UMASS-Dartmouth law be ranked?

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 2:19 pm
by im_blue
vanwinkle wrote:
darknightbegins wrote:The only public law school in the state.
I can never understand why people think this matters. The public/private distinction doesn't really matter much in the law school context; if this school places worse than Northeastern, BC, and BU, and costs nearly the same (which ultimately it will), then there's no real advantage to it.

Yes, they're promising it'll be cheaper, but really, by how much? If it's $10K/yr cheaper you're still looking at $25-30K/yr in tuition and $20K/yr in COL expenses; you've ultimately got a debt load over $100K after three years anyway. That's far too much for public service, which is going to be where this school is trying to place people.

Public/private doesn't matter, and given the high minimum that tuition would have to be, saving money doesn't matter much either. Being public doesn't really matter at all from a practical standpoint. Given how tuition at the top "public" law schools has risen to match their private peers, it really doesn't matter anywhere.
People mistakenly assume that publics are cheaper and more accessible to applicants with weaker numbers.

Re: Where will UMASS-Dartmouth law be ranked?

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 3:44 pm
by 20160810
vanwinkle wrote:
darknightbegins wrote:The only public law school in the state.
I can never understand why people think this matters. The public/private distinction doesn't really matter much in the law school context; if this school places worse than Northeastern, BC, and BU, and costs nearly the same (which ultimately it will), then there's no real advantage to it.

Yes, they're promising it'll be cheaper, but really, by how much? If it's $10K/yr cheaper you're still looking at $25-30K/yr in tuition and $20K/yr in COL expenses; you've ultimately got a debt load over $100K after three years anyway. That's far too much for public service, which is going to be where this school is trying to place people.

Public/private doesn't matter, and given the high minimum that tuition would have to be, saving money doesn't matter much either. Being public doesn't really matter at all from a practical standpoint. Given how tuition at the top "public" law schools has risen to match their private peers, it really doesn't matter anywhere.
Eh, it matters at lower-ranked publics who actually keep their tuition low (Texas Tech, etc.)

Re: Where will UMASS-Dartmouth law be ranked?

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 3:49 pm
by MVPson
This flame, right?

Re: Where will UMASS-Dartmouth law be ranked?

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 4:05 pm
by 005618502
MVPson wrote:This flame, right?
i hope so

Re: Where will UMASS-Dartmouth law be ranked?

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 10:37 pm
by davidtothej05
Its kinda silly anyways, Mass residents as is can get a deep discount at both Maine and Conn, both very affordable "state" schools.

And Roger Williams is like, a mile away

Re: Where will UMASS-Dartmouth law be ranked?

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 10:44 pm
by MrKappus
soullesswonder wrote:protip: any school that has explicitly justified its existence as a revenue-generator for the rest of the university system is probably not a good school.

"UMass Dartmouth chancellor Jean MacCormack had previously laid out plans that said the public law school would operate free of taxpayer dollars and eventually funnel millions into UMass Dartmouth and the state through expanded enrollment. Officials have estimated that the school would grow from 235 students to 559 by 2017."

http://abovethelaw.com/2009/12/umass-tr ... aw-school/
I'm amazed that university officials actually branded the school this way. Are they aware that, for it to generate revenue, law students have to want to attend? Then again, I guess if the choice is to offend fiscal hawks criticizing the law school's opening, or clueless law students that will continue to apply in record numbers even if you promise to build the school out of human excrement, it's probably better to offend the latter.

Re: Where will UMASS-Dartmouth law be ranked?

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 1:14 pm
by concurrent fork
Good - MA needs more law schools. Only 75% of our starbucks baristas have JDs.

Re: Where will UMASS-Dartmouth law be ranked?

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 4:34 pm
by HeavenWood
MrKappus wrote:clueless law students... will continue to apply in record numbers even if you promise to build the school out of human excrement....

Re: Where will UMASS-Dartmouth law be ranked?

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 4:55 pm
by 12262010
just what we need

Re: Where will UMASS-Dartmouth law be ranked?

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 5:17 pm
by 005618502
concurrent fork wrote:Good - MA needs more law schools. Only 75% of our starbucks baristas have JDs.
lol