Michigan 1Ls/2Ls/3Ls taking questions Forum

[BuckinghamB]

Also, keep in mind that Cornell's big jump in the NLJ placement rankings was only for one year...I'm too lazy to find the link now but I think the year before it was a little over 10% lower than the latest rankings. One year of having the 2nd highest placement could be anamolous. It's probably better to look at trends for NLJ placement combined with clerkship and PI numbers IMO.

[planeride]

Housing Q: Anyone have any experience with the Graduate House? Feel free to PM me if you prefer.

[ScrabbleChamp]

Does anyone have intimate knowledge of Northwood V? I'm about to give up on trying to find suitable off-campus housing and think the Northwood V largest 3-bedroom may work. I just have questions about the condition of the units, whether or not the basements are finished/livable, etc. Feel free to PM me if you prefer, or answer in this thread as there are probably others that have interest in this, as well.

[03121202698008]

Does anyone have intimate knowledge of Northwood V? I'm about to give up on trying to find suitable off-campus housing and think the Northwood V largest 3-bedroom may work. I just have questions about the condition of the units, whether or not the basements are finished/livable, etc. Feel free to PM me if you prefer, or answer in this thread as there are probably others that have interest in this, as well.

All hearsay, but from people that have toured the university housing...none have chosen to live there due to conditions.

[bannanagram]

Does anyone have intimate knowledge of Northwood V? I'm about to give up on trying to find suitable off-campus housing and think the Northwood V largest 3-bedroom may work. I just have questions about the condition of the units, whether or not the basements are finished/livable, etc. Feel free to PM me if you prefer, or answer in this thread as there are probably others that have interest in this, as well.

All hearsay, but from people that have toured the university housing...none have chosen to live there due to conditions.

I toured these. The basements are...basementy. You can store stuff down there, but it smelled a little mildewy, so I am not sure if you'd want to set up an office/playroom/etc down there. The whole place felt dingy, dark, and depressing. The units are in serious need of updating. The common yard space also seemed unkept and sort of sad with random toys strewn about.

[outsidethescope]

Odd question: what kinds of extreme weather/potential disasters should someone who's never seen the midwest prepare for, in the event of an emergency?

[03121202698008]

Odd question: what kinds of extreme weather/potential disasters should someone who's never seen the midwest prepare for, in the event of an emergency?

? 4-6 inches of snow and shitty roads for a few hours. A2 does get a fair amount of tornados in the summer but most law students aren't here then and not really anything you can do to prepare for them.

Other than that, it gets moderately cold (occasionally in single digits, usually 10-20 degrees at worst).

[UnamSanctam]

Odd question: what kinds of extreme weather/potential disasters should someone who's never seen the midwest prepare for, in the event of an emergency?

It's Michigan. One day it may be sunny and 50. The next day you get several inches of snow. I remember one winter years ago when we had an ice storm, and literally every branch on every tree was encased in ice.

[outsidethescope]

Odd question: what kinds of extreme weather/potential disasters should someone who's never seen the midwest prepare for, in the event of an emergency?

? 4-6 inches of snow and shitty roads for a few hours. A2 does get a fair amount of tornados in the summer but most law students aren't here then and not really anything you can do to prepare for them.

Other than that, it gets moderately cold (occasionally in single digits, usually 10-20 degrees at worst).

See, this is good to know. I've never been anywhere close to a tronado and would probably do the completely wrong thing.

What about floods?

[03121202698008]

Odd question: what kinds of extreme weather/potential disasters should someone who's never seen the midwest prepare for, in the event of an emergency?

? 4-6 inches of snow and shitty roads for a few hours. A2 does get a fair amount of tornados in the summer but most law students aren't here then and not really anything you can do to prepare for them.

Other than that, it gets moderately cold (occasionally in single digits, usually 10-20 degrees at worst).

See, this is good to know. I've never been anywhere close to a tronado and would probably do the completely wrong thing.

What about floods?

Don't wade or drive through standing flood water? It's not really an issue.

[ScrabbleChamp]

Where can the best burger in town be found? Also, any Kobe beef burgers?

[03121202698008]

Where can the best burger in town be found? Also, any Kobe beef burgers?

Blimpie burger. There is a man vs food episode on it.

[Campagnolo]

Where can the best burger in town be found? Also, any Kobe beef burgers?

A Kobe burger is like spreading foie gras on your french fries. Isn't it a bit of a waste?

[20130312]

Where can the best burger in town be found? Also, any Kobe beef burgers?

A Kobe burger is like spreading foie gras on your french fries. Isn't it a bit of a waste?

This. You have no business mushing Kobe beef into burger-form.

[ScrabbleChamp]

Where can the best burger in town be found? Also, any Kobe beef burgers?

A Kobe burger is like spreading foie gras on your french fries. Isn't it a bit of a waste?

This. You have no business mushing Kobe beef into burger-form.

This must be from a mouth that has never had such a glorious concoction. Don't knock it 'til you try it. It is wonderful.

[JoeMo]

This must be from a mouth that has never had such a glorious concoction. Don't knock it 'til you try it. It is wonderful.

Meh... I've had Kobe burgers before and honestly I much prefer Steakburgers. Kobe can be rather dry when made into burger form.

[Campagnolo]

Where can the best burger in town be found? Also, any Kobe beef burgers?

A Kobe burger is like spreading foie gras on your french fries. Isn't it a bit of a waste?

This. You have no business mushing Kobe beef into burger-form.

This must be from a mouth that has never had such a glorious concoction. Don't knock it 'til you try it. It is wonderful.

It's more my wallet talking than any high-minded notion of the eidos of Kobe. I would totally put truffles and foies gras on my freedom freedom fries if I were rich.

[buckilaw]

Grizzly Peaks has a Kobe Burger. So does Cafe Zola. Though if you are willing to spend 10-15 bucks on a sandwich I'd suggest you skip the burger and head over to Zingerman's Deli.

[wolverine10]

Blimpie Burger is excellent, Grizzly peak and Ashleys have great burgers and beer. Being an east coast guy I love Five Guys which just came to AA last year

[keg411]

Blimpie Burger is excellent, Grizzly peak and Ashleys have great burgers and beer. Being an east coast guy I love Five Guys which just came to AA last year

The Quickie Burger on the corner by the law school is surprisingly good.

[JDizzle2015]

A Kobe burger is like spreading foie gras on your french fries. Isn't it a bit of a waste?

Is that any good? Sounds gross... I mean I've only tried foie gras straight up and it definitely wasn't for me. However, truffle oil on fries is absolutely delicious (and not out of this world expensive).

[ahnhub]

Let me preface this question with:
I love Michigan. I've followed the football team my whole life, I went there as an undergrad, I bleed maize and blue (or neon yellow or whatever color Adidas has us wearing now). I really want to go to school there. The law school has an amazing reputation--of all the schools I've gotten into, the one that impresses people most is Michigan.

My research has led me to conclude people who wanted Biglaw from Michigan in the c/o 2011 and 2012 really struggled, even relatively to its peers. The NLJ 250 placement for c/o 2011 just came out, and Michigan was significantly behind many schools considered its peers. I know these numbers fluctuate from year to year, and also understand how anomalous c/o 2011 is. But having seen 2L summer placement from c/o 2012 as well, I have to think the placement didn't improve that much for the next year as well, while overall hiring at big law firms did increase significantly.

It seems this past OCI went much, much better, and the outlook for c/o 2013 is brighter all around. But what happened for three years?
Any insight would be appreciated.

[03121202698008]

Let me preface this question with:
I love Michigan. I've followed the football team my whole life, I went there as an undergrad, I bleed maize and blue (or neon yellow or whatever color Adidas has us wearing now). I really want to go to school there. The law school has an amazing reputation--of all the schools I've gotten into, the one that impresses people most is Michigan.

My research has led me to conclude people who wanted Biglaw from Michigan in the c/o 2011 and 2012 really struggled, even relatively to its peers. The NLJ 250 placement for c/o 2011 just came out, and Michigan was significantly behind many schools considered its peers. I know these numbers fluctuate from year to year, and also understand how anomalous c/o 2011 is. But having seen 2L summer placement from c/o 2012 as well, I have to think the placement didn't improve that much for the next year as well, while overall hiring at big law firms did increase significantly.

It seems this past OCI went much, much better, and the outlook for c/o 2013 is brighter all around. But what happened for three years?
Any insight would be appreciated.

Uh, the recession? Michigan isn't in a major market which led some firms to pull out when they drew back recruiting. We send people all over the US so felt the recession more than schools that are located in and dominate a major market that wasn't hit as hard. Also, two years ago, OCS gave some bad advice which led many people to concentrate on Chicago as we were still doing well there. In hindsight, this was terrible advice as the Chicago firms got saturated and many people ended up wasting OCI bids without even getting an interview. Other than that, I don't think our people struggled more than peers.

People got wiser and bid more strategically. Most firms picked up their recruiting. This year was much much better. Almost everyone I know that wanted BigLaw got it.

We also have a large contingent of people who want PI and don't do OCI. This can skew percentages to some extent.

[keg411]

As another 2L, everything blowhard said is right on. There are people I know who "struck out" at OCI/BigLaw, but all of those people have other prestigious employment lined up for 2L summer that they are happy with.

[MissLucky]

Does anyone know where I can find info on the Spring Writing Competition for law review (dates, etc.)? Thanks! And do most people stick around after finals to complete the writing competition or just go home? I live in the LC though so maybe they close right after finals..