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Re: 2021-2022 Post-Clerkship Hiring

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Jan 10, 2022 9:50 am

Mayer Brown D.C. has, as of last month, started doing screens. Same with Zuckerman Spaeder.

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Re: 2021-2022 Post-Clerkship Hiring

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Jan 10, 2022 1:15 pm

When is the "best time" for a current clerk to blanket-apply for biglaw openings that start in fall?

Say you have a 23-24 clerkship, would the best time to apply for September 2024 be December 2023? Or is it so firm-specific there's no general rule?

Edit: NVM, I see my question has already been answered.

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Re: 2021-2022 Post-Clerkship Hiring

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Jan 10, 2022 7:20 pm

I share this information of my failure so that others may succeed. At the very least, this information let's us know the firms in California that are reviewing post-clerkship submissions. Firms that have rejected me thus far: Fox Rothschild (LA/SF); Munger Tolles Olson (LA); Milbank (LA). Break a leg out there!

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Re: 2021-2022 Post-Clerkship Hiring

Post by Anonymous User » Tue Jan 11, 2022 2:55 pm

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I share this information of my failure so that others may succeed. At the very least, this information let's us know the firms in California that are reviewing post-clerkship submissions. Firms that have rejected me thus far: Fox Rothschild (LA/SF); Munger Tolles Olson (LA); Milbank (LA). Break a leg out there!
Can I ask what district or circuit you're clerking in?

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Re: 2021-2022 Post-Clerkship Hiring

Post by Anonymous User » Tue Jan 11, 2022 8:33 pm

Recently learned that my judge will not let me apply until June at the earliest. How screwed am I? I have some experience before clerking and will be looking in NY. Hoping can leverage my prior experience/have friends pass along my resume...

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Re: 2021-2022 Post-Clerkship Hiring

Post by Anonymous User » Tue Jan 11, 2022 9:57 pm

Has anyone heard from W&C?

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Re: 2021-2022 Post-Clerkship Hiring

Post by Anonymous User » Tue Jan 11, 2022 11:47 pm

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Recently learned that my judge will not let me apply until June at the earliest. How screwed am I? I have some experience before clerking and will be looking in NY. Hoping can leverage my prior experience/have friends pass along my resume...
as in, your judge will not let you interview until 2 mo's before you finish?

if so, you would be pretty fucked for BigLaw. I would try to gently explain to him/her that the hiring process will be essentially over by June, that it's ordinary course for clerks to interview starting 6 mo's in, you can recuse if necessary...

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Re: 2021-2022 Post-Clerkship Hiring

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Jan 12, 2022 12:14 am

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Tue Jan 11, 2022 8:33 pm
Recently learned that my judge will not let me apply until June at the earliest. How screwed am I? I have some experience before clerking and will be looking in NY. Hoping can leverage my prior experience/have friends pass along my resume...
This is such a strange policy, what's their rationale? Are you clerking in an area where people don't regularly apply to major firms?

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Re: 2021-2022 Post-Clerkship Hiring

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Jan 12, 2022 9:35 am

Anonymous User wrote:
Tue Jan 11, 2022 8:33 pm
Recently learned that my judge will not let me apply until June at the earliest. How screwed am I? I have some experience before clerking and will be looking in NY. Hoping can leverage my prior experience/have friends pass along my resume...
What type of judge is it? I've heard of one COA judge in D.C. who has a similar policy, and it made it very difficult for their clerks. I wonder if you might be able to start networking before June, even if you can't formally apply until then.

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Re: 2021-2022 Post-Clerkship Hiring

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Jan 12, 2022 10:21 am

Anonymous User wrote:
Wed Jan 12, 2022 12:14 am
Anonymous User wrote:
Tue Jan 11, 2022 8:33 pm
Recently learned that my judge will not let me apply until June at the earliest. How screwed am I? I have some experience before clerking and will be looking in NY. Hoping can leverage my prior experience/have friends pass along my resume...
This is such a strange policy, what's their rationale? Are you clerking in an area where people don't regularly apply to major firms?
It's a district judge in a major city (not NY), but many people do try to go to the major east coast cities after. And not sure, potentially to avoid conflicts? I also haven't heard of any other judges having this rule. I'm just mentally preparing for an uphill battle

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Re: 2021-2022 Post-Clerkship Hiring

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Jan 12, 2022 10:43 am

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It's a district judge in a major city (not NY), but many people do try to go to the major east coast cities after. And not sure, potentially to avoid conflicts? I also haven't heard of any other judges having this rule. I'm just mentally preparing for an uphill battle
I know prior clerks from my non 2/9/DC COA chambers have obtained post-clerkship gigs at big law firms, including V25 and even V10, over the summer just before their September-ish end dates. So although I agree with everyone it is certainly not ideal, don't give up all hope!

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Re: 2021-2022 Post-Clerkship Hiring

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Jan 12, 2022 10:51 am

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Wed Jan 12, 2022 10:43 am
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Wed Jan 12, 2022 10:21 am
It's a district judge in a major city (not NY), but many people do try to go to the major east coast cities after. And not sure, potentially to avoid conflicts? I also haven't heard of any other judges having this rule. I'm just mentally preparing for an uphill battle
I know prior clerks from my non 2/9/DC COA chambers have obtained post-clerkship gigs at big law firms, including V25 and even V10, over the summer just before their September-ish end dates. So although I agree with everyone it is certainly not ideal, don't give up all hope!
That's good to hear! I'm not too picky about where I end up, as long as it has the practice I want to specialize in. My prior firm no longer has work in that area, otherwise I would go back there

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Re: 2021-2022 Post-Clerkship Hiring

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Jan 12, 2022 10:57 pm

Any LA movement?

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Re: 2021-2022 Post-Clerkship Hiring

Post by Anonymous User » Thu Jan 13, 2022 1:14 pm

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Has anyone heard from W&C?
as in White & Case or Williams & Connolly?

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Re: 2021-2022 Post-Clerkship Hiring

Post by Anonymous User » Sat Jan 15, 2022 10:54 pm

W&C is doing screeners. Same with MTO.

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Re: 2021-2022 Post-Clerkship Hiring

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:29 am

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W&C is doing screeners. Same with MTO.
Would you mind sharing the application >> interview invitation timeline?

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Re: 2021-2022 Post-Clerkship Hiring

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:49 pm

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Mon Jan 10, 2022 7:20 pm
I share this information of my failure so that others may succeed. At the very least, this information let's us know the firms in California that are reviewing post-clerkship submissions. Firms that have rejected me thus far: Fox Rothschild (LA/SF); Munger Tolles Olson (LA); Milbank (LA). Break a leg out there!
Can I ask what district or circuit you're clerking in?
E.D. Cal.

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Re: 2021-2022 Post-Clerkship Hiring

Post by Anonymous User » Sat Jan 22, 2022 12:28 pm

Does anyone know when we should reach out to our summer firms about coming back in the fall?

I summered at a firm where the policy is that you don't accept a formal offer if you were clerking first. I think they said to reach out in the "spring" before a fall start date, but that's so vague that I wasn't sure when to reach out...

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Re: 2021-2022 Post-Clerkship Hiring

Post by Anonymous User » Tue Jan 25, 2022 9:35 am

Kirkland DC has been moving for awhile now (including offers)

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Re: 2021-2022 Post-Clerkship Hiring

Post by Anonymous User » Tue Jan 25, 2022 10:46 am

Anyone see any movement in Boston by chance?

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Re: 2021-2022 Post-Clerkship Hiring

Post by Anonymous User » Tue Jan 25, 2022 11:00 am

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Sat Jan 22, 2022 12:28 pm
Does anyone know when we should reach out to our summer firms about coming back in the fall?

I summered at a firm where the policy is that you don't accept a formal offer if you were clerking first. I think they said to reach out in the "spring" before a fall start date, but that's so vague that I wasn't sure when to reach out...
No first-hand knowledge, but you can probably feel comfortable reaching out whenever you'd like. Worst case scenario is they tell you to reach back out in springtime.

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Re: 2021-2022 Post-Clerkship Hiring

Post by Anonymous User » Tue Jan 25, 2022 11:22 am

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Tue Jan 25, 2022 9:35 am
Kirkland DC has been moving for awhile now (including offers)
So has Kirkland NY.

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Re: 2021-2022 Post-Clerkship Hiring

Post by Anonymous User » Tue Jan 25, 2022 2:33 pm

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Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:29 am
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Sat Jan 15, 2022 10:54 pm
W&C is doing screeners. Same with MTO.
Would you mind sharing the application >> interview invitation timeline?
I'm not the OP but MTO LA invited me for an interview the day after I submitted my app. Anyone willing to share CB to offer or ding timeline for MTO LA/Susman LA/Irell/Hueston? It would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: 2021-2022 Post-Clerkship Hiring

Post by Anonymous User » Tue Jan 25, 2022 9:46 pm

HH turnaround is usually pretty quick. Generally will tell you one way or the other within two weeks and likely sooner than that.

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Re: 2021-2022 Post-Clerkship Hiring

Post by Anonymous User » Tue Jan 25, 2022 10:37 pm

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HH turnaround is usually pretty quick. Generally will tell you one way or the other within two weeks and likely sooner than that.
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