Just out of curiosity, what does top 10% mean? Double Kent?Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 1:57 pmTop 10% at CCN here. I applied to ~35 clerkships, mostly district court clerkships in major cities. I've only gotten two interview requests so far.
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Two interviews this close to the plan opening is good!!Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 1:57 pmTop 10% at CCN here. I applied to ~35 clerkships, mostly district court clerkships in major cities. I've only gotten two interview requests so far.
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Very hard to know but I'd say double kent is top 3-5% so high stone plus kent 2L is top 10%Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 2:06 pmJust out of curiosity, what does top 10% mean? Double Kent?Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 1:57 pmTop 10% at CCN here. I applied to ~35 clerkships, mostly district court clerkships in major cities. I've only gotten two interview requests so far.
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Similar story here. MVP '21 with '21-'22 district court lined up for the fall, around top 5-10% + LR, and radio silence on COA for '22 and '23. Had one off-plan interview a few months ago that went nowhere.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 1:55 pm2021 HLS cum laude grad here with a district clerkship already lined up for 2021-22. Zero responses yet on over 50 COA applications submitted for 2022-23
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Lol yeah I'm pretty sure we have the same grades and I have zero.lawposter10000 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 2:09 pmTwo interviews this close to the plan opening is good!!Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 1:57 pmTop 10% at CCN here. I applied to ~35 clerkships, mostly district court clerkships in major cities. I've only gotten two interview requests so far.
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This advice is unfathomably bad. Give your judge list to your recommenders and see who they are comfortable calling for you.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 2:05 pmI was a transfer this year fortunate enough to pick up a very good recommender this year, but my grades are nothing special in general for CLS despite very good 1L-school grades. I was told to not apply to certain judges by OJC basically might piss off this recommender because my grades weren't good enough. Is this...normal?Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 1:49 pmAnother grad here. OJC has been so bad, ranging from just not good advice to actively wrong information. The office is deliberately opaque and extremely unhelpful. They need a complete overhaul.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 1:43 pmCLS grad. anon. had 4 interviews last cycle as a 2L. Nothing so far. I too am disappointed with the lack of institutional support.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 1:36 pmRough few days for CLS. First, we continue to woefully underperform at clerkships, and then the head of career services leaves for Fordham a month before EIP.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 1:19 pmI have above a 3.8 at CLS and most of my classes were "real" black letters. Recommenders I know pretty well who made calls. Applied to lots of non-NY judges. Nothing. Really curious if this is happening to others.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 12:57 pmAt CLS know a bunch of people hearing nothing from NY judges even with great #s.
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I’ve received similar advice from a counselor in OJC and I simply asked my recommender and they were fine with it. If they’re extremely out of reach, then yeah don’t ask, but if they’re a slight reach, professors probably won’t care.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 2:19 pmThis advice is unfathomably bad. Give your judge list to your recommenders and see who they are comfortable calling for you.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 2:05 pmI was a transfer this year fortunate enough to pick up a very good recommender this year, but my grades are nothing special in general for CLS despite very good 1L-school grades. I was told to not apply to certain judges by OJC basically might piss off this recommender because my grades weren't good enough. Is this...normal?Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 1:49 pmAnother grad here. OJC has been so bad, ranging from just not good advice to actively wrong information. The office is deliberately opaque and extremely unhelpful. They need a complete overhaul.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 1:43 pmCLS grad. anon. had 4 interviews last cycle as a 2L. Nothing so far. I too am disappointed with the lack of institutional support.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 1:36 pmRough few days for CLS. First, we continue to woefully underperform at clerkships, and then the head of career services leaves for Fordham a month before EIP.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 1:19 pmI have above a 3.8 at CLS and most of my classes were "real" black letters. Recommenders I know pretty well who made calls. Applied to lots of non-NY judges. Nothing. Really curious if this is happening to others.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 12:57 pmAt CLS know a bunch of people hearing nothing from NY judges even with great #s.
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I thought so, lol. I'm not expecting to get much this year, but man, when is applying, not even asking for calls to more judges a bad thing? In this instance, I wasn't even asking this professor to call some of these reaches. If a professor is writing for you, they obviously don't think you're going to shit the bed...Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 2:19 pmThis advice is unfathomably bad. Give your judge list to your recommenders and see who they are comfortable calling for you.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 2:05 pmI was a transfer this year fortunate enough to pick up a very good recommender this year, but my grades are nothing special in general for CLS despite very good 1L-school grades. I was told to not apply to certain judges by OJC basically might piss off this recommender because my grades weren't good enough. Is this...normal?Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 1:49 pmAnother grad here. OJC has been so bad, ranging from just not good advice to actively wrong information. The office is deliberately opaque and extremely unhelpful. They need a complete overhaul.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 1:43 pmCLS grad. anon. had 4 interviews last cycle as a 2L. Nothing so far. I too am disappointed with the lack of institutional support.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 1:36 pmRough few days for CLS. First, we continue to woefully underperform at clerkships, and then the head of career services leaves for Fordham a month before EIP.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 1:19 pmI have above a 3.8 at CLS and most of my classes were "real" black letters. Recommenders I know pretty well who made calls. Applied to lots of non-NY judges. Nothing. Really curious if this is happening to others.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 12:57 pmAt CLS know a bunch of people hearing nothing from NY judges even with great #s.
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wrt letters and not calls that advice is unhinged. It's a mail merge, I would be surprised if your recommenders looked at every name on your list.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 2:23 pmI thought so, lol. I'm not expecting to get much this year, but man, when is applying, not even asking for calls to more judges a bad thing? In this instance, I wasn't even asking this professor to call some of these reaches. If a professor is writing for you, they obviously don't think you're going to shit the bed...Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 2:19 pmThis advice is unfathomably bad. Give your judge list to your recommenders and see who they are comfortable calling for you.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 2:05 pmI was a transfer this year fortunate enough to pick up a very good recommender this year, but my grades are nothing special in general for CLS despite very good 1L-school grades. I was told to not apply to certain judges by OJC basically might piss off this recommender because my grades weren't good enough. Is this...normal?Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 1:49 pmAnother grad here. OJC has been so bad, ranging from just not good advice to actively wrong information. The office is deliberately opaque and extremely unhelpful. They need a complete overhaul.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 1:43 pmCLS grad. anon. had 4 interviews last cycle as a 2L. Nothing so far. I too am disappointed with the lack of institutional support.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 1:36 pmRough few days for CLS. First, we continue to woefully underperform at clerkships, and then the head of career services leaves for Fordham a month before EIP.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 1:19 pm
I have above a 3.8 at CLS and most of my classes were "real" black letters. Recommenders I know pretty well who made calls. Applied to lots of non-NY judges. Nothing. Really curious if this is happening to others.
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If you are class of 2022, this would probably be outside the top 10%. Close to 30 students, maybe more, got Kent your year because the standard was loosened by COVID P/F.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 2:10 pmVery hard to know but I'd say double kent is top 3-5% so high stone plus kent 2L is top 10%Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 2:06 pmJust out of curiosity, what does top 10% mean? Double Kent?Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 1:57 pmTop 10% at CCN here. I applied to ~35 clerkships, mostly district court clerkships in major cities. I've only gotten two interview requests so far.
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Fair enough - I'd say within top 15% then as there's over 400 2Ls so even with inflated Kent 1L you're prolly within top 50 but who knows.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 2:27 pmIf you are class of 2022, this would probably be outside the top 10%. Close to 30 students, maybe more, got Kent your year because the standard was loosened by COVID P/F.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 2:10 pmVery hard to know but I'd say double kent is top 3-5% so high stone plus kent 2L is top 10%Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 2:06 pmJust out of curiosity, what does top 10% mean? Double Kent?Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 1:57 pmTop 10% at CCN here. I applied to ~35 clerkships, mostly district court clerkships in major cities. I've only gotten two interview requests so far.
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Yeah 2 off a small number of apps is very good. I assume this is Chicago but a top 10% Chicago student would typically get a COA so idk.lawposter10000 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 2:09 pmTwo interviews this close to the plan opening is good!!Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 1:57 pmTop 10% at CCN here. I applied to ~35 clerkships, mostly district court clerkships in major cities. I've only gotten two interview requests so far.
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Yeah OP can you tell us your school, just really curious if you're at CLSAnonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 2:59 pmYeah 2 off a small number of apps is very good. I assume this is Chicago but a top 10% Chicago student would typically get a COA so idk.lawposter10000 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 2:09 pmTwo interviews this close to the plan opening is good!!Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 1:57 pmTop 10% at CCN here. I applied to ~35 clerkships, mostly district court clerkships in major cities. I've only gotten two interview requests so far.
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Data point: slightly above median at CCN, one interview so far. District court in a major city near where I grew up. Applied to ~35 district court positions.
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I am not at CLS.
Edit: sorry, didn’t mean to make this anon!
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CCN '21 grad. Top 10%, secondary journal, liberal straight white male. Accepted CA3 slot for '23-'24. Interviewed Tuesday.
e: re weirdo judge recommendation stuff, my school has a handful of very well connected professors who are selective with who they will recommend. e.g. a good friend is top 20% and otherwise similar to me, he had a professor with juice recommend him, but the professor refused to recommend him to any CoA. was explained to my friend that the professor won't recommend someone to a judge if they think the person isn't a candidate.
e: re weirdo judge recommendation stuff, my school has a handful of very well connected professors who are selective with who they will recommend. e.g. a good friend is top 20% and otherwise similar to me, he had a professor with juice recommend him, but the professor refused to recommend him to any CoA. was explained to my friend that the professor won't recommend someone to a judge if they think the person isn't a candidate.
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For clerkship purpose please stop using CCN - Chicago is in another universe compared to Cls/NYU so it’s not really Helpful
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Data point — white female rising 3L NYU/ Columbia 3.8— 0 interviews 30 apps
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This is OP. Because a few people have asked, I'm a Chicago student.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 1:57 pmTop 10% at CCN here. I applied to ~35 clerkships, mostly district court clerkships in major cities. I've only gotten two interview requests so far.
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Similar case here. C/N 2021 top 5-10%, 40+ apps, 0 interviews. Last year, at maybe top 15%, I had 1 interview with 40+ apps.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 8:54 pmData point — white female rising 3L NYU/ Columbia 3.8— 0 interviews 30 apps
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Don’t know how similar of a case, but I’m #1 at a T25, 30 apps, mixture of district court/COA, 0 interviews.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:20 amSimilar case here. C/N 2021 top 5-10%, 40+ apps, 0 interviews. Last year, at maybe top 15%, I had 1 interview with 40+ apps.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 8:54 pmData point — white female rising 3L NYU/ Columbia 3.8— 0 interviews 30 apps
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A 3.8 is closer to top 15%, but in any case, also 3.8 at CLS/NYU, 50 apps, 0 interviews.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:20 amSimilar case here. C/N 2021 top 5-10%, 40+ apps, 0 interviews. Last year, at maybe top 15%, I had 1 interview with 40+ apps.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 8:54 pmData point — white female rising 3L NYU/ Columbia 3.8— 0 interviews 30 apps
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Are we sure that judges haven’t decided to wait a bit after the plan opens? It’s oddly quiet, for me and everyone I know
For reference, 2020 MVP grad, top 15%, only looking at District Courts with a range of competitiveness. 20 apps, had profs call, nothing.
For reference, 2020 MVP grad, top 15%, only looking at District Courts with a range of competitiveness. 20 apps, had profs call, nothing.
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