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Biggest Turn Off for Judges?
Hello. I have an interview next week with a COA judge. I got this interview with him through a connection, and it’s been highly suggested to me that the offer is mine to lose. That being said, are there any major turn offs for judges in interviews? Really just wanna coast through it.
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Re: Biggest Turn Off for Judges?
I might be reading too much into "coast through it." But I'd recommend preparing for and treating the interview like you would any other. Don't treat it like it's in the bag. It could backfire. As for turn offs, judges are idiosyncratic. Talking to former clerks about the interview process will net you the best advice and insight you can get.
But I'll offer a few (obvious) things. Treat everybody you encounter with respect, gratitude, and kindness. That includes the CSOs when you go through security (if you interview in person). Be confident, but don't be arrogant. Be appreciative of the judge's and law clerks' time. Come up with some good questions that show you put some thought into the interview. Read one of the judge's opinions and be able to speak intelligently about it, just in case. Don't force things. Just try to have a pleasant conversation.
But I'll offer a few (obvious) things. Treat everybody you encounter with respect, gratitude, and kindness. That includes the CSOs when you go through security (if you interview in person). Be confident, but don't be arrogant. Be appreciative of the judge's and law clerks' time. Come up with some good questions that show you put some thought into the interview. Read one of the judge's opinions and be able to speak intelligently about it, just in case. Don't force things. Just try to have a pleasant conversation.
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Re: Biggest Turn Off for Judges?
This is just my interview experience, but I was asked what I would do if I disagreed with the judge's ruling or thought he was wrong on a point of law, and what I would do if I realized I made a mistake in my analysis afterward. He also emphasized the gravity of the position a lot-- you're impacting people's lives and even the law as a whole (albeit in a small way) every time you put out an opinion. If your judge is a kind of serious person, similar questions may come up.
You can ask how cases are assigned and what the judge's drafting process is, and whether any types of cases are particularly prevalent on their docket.
Be authentic as best you can. The judge knows you're smart and capable. They want to know if they can stand to work with you for a year.
And echoing the earlier advice, be gracious and friendly to everyone. People in chambers are close and they talk.
You can ask how cases are assigned and what the judge's drafting process is, and whether any types of cases are particularly prevalent on their docket.
Be authentic as best you can. The judge knows you're smart and capable. They want to know if they can stand to work with you for a year.
And echoing the earlier advice, be gracious and friendly to everyone. People in chambers are close and they talk.
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Re: Biggest Turn Off for Judges?
COA judge I interviewed with due to a connection didn't even interview me. He just started the conversation by asking when I'd be available; so, maybe you'll get the sweet relief of needing to do nothing but be cordial and polite.
That being said, definitely prepare for it like you would any other interview. Did you send the judge anything (e.g., writing sample, resume, cover letter)? Be prepared to talk about that. If you got it through a connection, maybe you know something about the judge. Find out as much as you can about the judge so you can ask questions if need be. Ask about the kinds of matters the judge usually deals with; other attorneys and staff in chambers if the opportunity comes up. Stuff like that. Be yourself (your best, most presentable self).
That being said, definitely prepare for it like you would any other interview. Did you send the judge anything (e.g., writing sample, resume, cover letter)? Be prepared to talk about that. If you got it through a connection, maybe you know something about the judge. Find out as much as you can about the judge so you can ask questions if need be. Ask about the kinds of matters the judge usually deals with; other attorneys and staff in chambers if the opportunity comes up. Stuff like that. Be yourself (your best, most presentable self).
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Re: Biggest Turn Off for Judges?
I agree with the others that you need to prepare for it like you would any other interview.
That means reaching out to any alumni or people in your network who clerked for the judge to do general diligence and ask about the judge's interviewing habits. You also should read at least a few of the judge's recent published opinions. Finally, have ready answers for the 'why' questions -- why COA, why this geographic area, why this judge.
As far as the biggest "turn-off" for judges, I've seen well-connected people like yourself take themselves out of contention by not letting their personality show through at all in the interview and seeming generally timid. Afterward, the judge remarked that the applicant didn't seem like they'd be able to stand up for themselves and push back against the judge if they disagreed about a case.
That means reaching out to any alumni or people in your network who clerked for the judge to do general diligence and ask about the judge's interviewing habits. You also should read at least a few of the judge's recent published opinions. Finally, have ready answers for the 'why' questions -- why COA, why this geographic area, why this judge.
As far as the biggest "turn-off" for judges, I've seen well-connected people like yourself take themselves out of contention by not letting their personality show through at all in the interview and seeming generally timid. Afterward, the judge remarked that the applicant didn't seem like they'd be able to stand up for themselves and push back against the judge if they disagreed about a case.
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