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Re: 2023-2024 Clerkship Application Thread

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Re: 2023-2024 Clerkship Application Thread

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Jill Pryor has also moved

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Re: 2023-2024 Clerkship Application Thread

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Jill Pryor has also moved
By posting yesterday? Or by setting up an interview?

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Re: 2023-2024 Clerkship Application Thread

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By posting yesterday? Or by setting up an interview?
Has hired at least one clerk for 23-24

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Re: 2023-2024 Clerkship Application Thread

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Any movement recently?

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Re: 2023-2024 Clerkship Application Thread

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Can anyone shed some light on the feeder — semi-feeder — non-feeder distinction? For example, when I hear “feeder,” I think someone who has sent at least five clerks to SCOTUS in the last five years. Is that accurate? Is a semi-feeder just anyone who has ever sent a single clerk? Thanks for any help

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Re: 2023-2024 Clerkship Application Thread

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Can anyone shed some light on the feeder — semi-feeder — non-feeder distinction? For example, when I hear “feeder,” I think someone who has sent at least five clerks to SCOTUS in the last five years. Is that accurate? Is a semi-feeder just anyone who has ever sent a single clerk? Thanks for any help
I would say a semi-feeder is someone who has sent clerks, but sporadically. It's hard to put a number on it, but I would say any judge that has sent a clerk in the past 5 years could be considered a semi-feeder. As for the difference between semi-feeder and feeder, I think your metric is about right. However, there are obviously no hard lines here.

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Re: 2023-2024 Clerkship Application Thread

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Gibbons has finished hiring for 23-24 (notified via email)

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Re: 2023-2024 Clerkship Application Thread

Post by clerky123 » Wed Mar 23, 2022 4:34 pm

Has there been any district court movement for 2023? Has anyone been getting interviews for off-plan judges?

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Re: 2023-2024 Clerkship Application Thread

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Has there been any district court movement for 2023? Has anyone been getting interviews for off-plan judges?
I had an interview for a judge in N.D. Ohio about five weeks ago. Told me he'd get back to me in two weeks. Silence.

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Re: 2023-2024 Clerkship Application Thread

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Has there been any district court movement for 2023? Has anyone been getting interviews for off-plan judges?
Yes, EDVA. 2023-24. Offer.

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Re: 2023-2024 Clerkship Application Thread

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Has there been any district court movement for 2023? Has anyone been getting interviews for off-plan judges?
Yes, EDVA. 2023-24. Offer.
Same! EDVA '23-'24 offer.

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Re: 2023-2024 Clerkship Application Thread

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Does anyone know if Judge Thompson on the First Circuit has already hired for 2023? If she hasn’t, does anyone have an idea of when she looks at applications?

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Re: 2023-2024 Clerkship Application Thread

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Apr 13, 2022 1:04 am

Any advice on where I should be looking/prioritizing? Or what is realistic?

Transfer from T20 -> HLS - Had a 3.95 (top 3%) at T20 and now have a 3.73 at HLS (10H/6P). V5 NYC lit position.

Feel a little weak on LOR as a result of transferring (will be able to get them, but don't know if they will be incredible)

Lifelong midwesterner, ties to Wisconsin, Indiana, Illinois (Chicago), and NY. Would be geographically very open but in a perfect world looking for something East Coast. Obviously prefer COA but know it is unlikely.

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Re: 2023-2024 Clerkship Application Thread

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Any advice on where I should be looking/prioritizing? Or what is realistic?

Transfer from T20 -> HLS - Had a 3.95 (top 3%) at T20 and now have a 3.73 at HLS (10H/6P). V5 NYC lit position.

Feel a little weak on LOR as a result of transferring (will be able to get them, but don't know if they will be incredible)

Lifelong midwesterner, ties to Wisconsin, Indiana, Illinois (Chicago), and NY. Would be geographically very open but in a perfect world looking for something East Coast. Obviously prefer COA but know it is unlikely.
The most useful part of your app is definitely the hard tie to the general vicinity of Lake Michigan IMO.

Both the east-coast circuits and CA7 tend to be quite selective, so you should apply nationally if you really want a COA.

If you’re open to the Midwestern district courts, you’re definitely competitive there with the exception of maybe NDIL (though it’s still worth applying). To the extent you can show a serious intent to return, that’ll help. It’s also worth blanketing the east-coast district courts with the exceptions of the most selective SDNY, EDNY, and DDC judges (i.e. the ones who will expect straight Hs with a COA in hand). You have solid but not outstanding grades and should apply accordingly.

Make sure to talk to profs and your clerkship people about this—you never know where they have connections

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Re: 2023-2024 Clerkship Application Thread

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Wed Apr 13, 2022 9:57 am
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Wed Apr 13, 2022 1:04 am
Any advice on where I should be looking/prioritizing? Or what is realistic?

Transfer from T20 -> HLS - Had a 3.95 (top 3%) at T20 and now have a 3.73 at HLS (10H/6P). V5 NYC lit position.

Feel a little weak on LOR as a result of transferring (will be able to get them, but don't know if they will be incredible)

Lifelong midwesterner, ties to Wisconsin, Indiana, Illinois (Chicago), and NY. Would be geographically very open but in a perfect world looking for something East Coast. Obviously prefer COA but know it is unlikely.
The most useful part of your app is definitely the hard tie to the general vicinity of Lake Michigan IMO.

Both the east-coast circuits and CA7 tend to be quite selective, so you should apply nationally if you really want a COA.

If you’re open to the Midwestern district courts, you’re definitely competitive there with the exception of maybe NDIL (though it’s still worth applying). To the extent you can show a serious intent to return, that’ll help. It’s also worth blanketing the east-coast district courts with the exceptions of the most selective SDNY, EDNY, and DDC judges (i.e. the ones who will expect straight Hs with a COA in hand). You have solid but not outstanding grades and should apply accordingly.

Make sure to talk to profs and your clerkship people about this—you never know where they have connections
First of all - big thanks for the substantive response!

Will be applying very broadly for COA, unsure if my grades put me in serious contention but why not shoot shots. Don't really know what to expect on that front though since there are very limited data points on transfers. Any recs on circuits that are less competitive/more willing to flex on grades?

Good to know vis-a-vis the midwestern ties, I definitely have a very credible story for returning (all family is there, lived there for 4 years pre-LS, 1L school was there).

Any advice on sussing out the most grade selective judges? I know there are resources floating around somewhere but HLS has been pretty opaque on what is realistic and the thread-based formatting here makes it hard to find consolidated info.

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Re: 2023-2024 Clerkship Application Thread

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Apr 13, 2022 1:59 pm

On SDNY, the most grade-selective judges are probably Rakoff, Oetken, Furman, Engelmayer, and Cronan. On EDNY, Komitee, Kovner and Matsumoto. On DDC, Boasberg, Moss, Mehta, McFadden, Friedrich, Nichols, and Leon. Of course even a “regular” judge on these courts is very selective.

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Re: 2023-2024 Clerkship Application Thread

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On SDNY, the most grade-selective judges are probably Rakoff, Oetken, Furman, Engelmayer, and Cronan. On EDNY, Komitee, Kovner and Matsumoto. On DDC, Boasberg, Moss, Mehta, McFadden, Friedrich, Nichols, and Leon. Of course even a “regular” judge on these courts is very selective.
Lovely - is this just consensus or is there somewhere comprehensive you'd recommend digging for this sort of info on other districts

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Re: 2023-2024 Clerkship Application Thread

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On SDNY, the most grade-selective judges are probably Rakoff, Oetken, Furman, Engelmayer, and Cronan. On EDNY, Komitee, Kovner and Matsumoto. On DDC, Boasberg, Moss, Mehta, McFadden, Friedrich, Nichols, and Leon. Of course even a “regular” judge on these courts is very selective.
Is Matsumoto really that grade selective? I know quite a few from my law school that had good but not great grades that clerked for her.

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Re: 2023-2024 Clerkship Application Thread

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On SDNY, the most grade-selective judges are probably Rakoff, Oetken, Furman, Engelmayer, and Cronan. On EDNY, Komitee, Kovner and Matsumoto. On DDC, Boasberg, Moss, Mehta, McFadden, Friedrich, Nichols, and Leon. Of course even a “regular” judge on these courts is very selective.
Is Matsumoto really that grade selective? I know quite a few from my law school that had good but not great grades that clerked for her.
Same for Komitee

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Re: 2023-2024 Clerkship Application Thread

Post by Anonymous User » Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:30 am

Admittedly those were the two I thought were most borderline, my metric was “does everyone I know who is clerking for this person also have a prestigious COA clerkship” and my social circle may be unrepresentative. The Komitee clerks I know are Bress and Scudder clerks, for example.

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Re: 2023-2024 Clerkship Application Thread

Post by Anonymous User » Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:38 am

Yea, I don't think Matsumoto is super grade selective. My sense is that Komitee is very much so, however. All the people he interviewed at CLS were Kent. The one person I know clerking for Komitee is also clerking for Lohier.

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Re: 2023-2024 Clerkship Application Thread

Post by Anonymous User » Thu Apr 14, 2022 9:02 am

Does anyone know anything about Gujarati or Liman in terms of selectivity?

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Re: 2023-2024 Clerkship Application Thread

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Apr 15, 2022 11:55 am

Hi! I am starting the clerkship process (current 2L applying on plan), but am first gen and at a loss at how to start or even think about what judges to apply to. I'm top 5 at MVP and have solid work experience before law school. I interned for a judge on D.D.C, and will be at a firm in D.C. this summer. I'd like to do circuit and district and am pretty geographically flexible. Where do you all think I've got a shot and what circuits/judges do you think I should target?

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Re: 2023-2024 Clerkship Application Thread

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Apr 15, 2022 3:35 pm

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Does anyone know anything about Gujarati or Liman in terms of selectivity?
Do not clerk for Gujarati. I have heard atrocious things.

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