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Re: 2023-2024 Clerkship Application Thread

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Lee (2d Cir) has moved
Weird that she would do that when her post said to make sure you submit by June 24

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Re: 2023-2024 Clerkship Application Thread

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Has Allyne Ross (EDNY) or Talwani moved?

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Re: 2023-2024 Clerkship Application Thread

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Has Allyne Ross (EDNY) or Talwani moved?
Yes to both

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Re: 2023-2024 Clerkship Application Thread

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Who's moved on EDPA? Any names?

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Re: 2023-2024 Clerkship Application Thread

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Lee (2d Cir) has moved
Weird that she would do that when her post said to make sure you submit by June 24
Judges fill up before "close" dates, no?

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Re: 2023-2024 Clerkship Application Thread

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Lee (2d Cir) has moved
Weird that she would do that when her post said to make sure you submit by June 24
Judges fill up before "close" dates, no?
No doubt, but her app explicitly said to submit by June 24 to ensure consideration, so it just strikes me as weird to move on June 23 haha

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Re: 2023-2024 Clerkship Application Thread

Post by fuzzybug342 » Fri Jun 24, 2022 2:48 am

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Hate to add to the annoying 'chance me's but I don't think H's clerkship office is really forthright about this (and we either don't have a clerkship committee of professors or it's too secretive for me to have found it.)

I've got 3DS/9H/2P so far (2L spring grades haven't come out yet obviously). My LORs should be good, none too spectacular but one has agreed to call a few judges for me. No law review, just secondary journal.

I definitely want to do two clerkships, one district and one COA. Geographically, I'd love to be in DC or the northeast, though I don't have strong ties to either beyond my upcoming 2L SA. How far beyond CA1/CA2/CADC and EDNY/SDNY/DDC/EDVA do I have to apply to feel fairly comfortable that I'll get a bite? (If the answer is 'this is an unremarkable application, apply to everywhere and everyone,' I understand and that's good feedback)
Idk if I would say this is an "unremarkable application." So long as you keep the 1:1 DS and P ratio and the rest H, you have a decently strong application for all those courts except CADC. Still, I would apply slightly broader if I were you—add in Third Circuit for sure.
Agreed. Those grades are magna range -- they make you competitive for everything except probably CADC (unless you have a Fed Soc hook for that). They would certainly have been enough to get you a close look from the clerks in my 9th circuit chambers (which I know is not on your list, but I suspect is similar to non-feeders a lot of the places you're looking). In terms of actually getting us to put you in front of the judge -- not to mention getting the judge to decide to interview you -- in my chambers no law review would hurt, but could be compensated for by either 1) a call from a prof, or 2) some other interesting/impressive extracurriculars. Ames semi-finalist or above would be one obvious thing, though I assume you would've mentioned that if you had it. Other things that I saw work: notable public interest dedication; obvious and dedicated focus in a specific field (for instance, RAing for a prof + leadership on a secondary journal + a clinic/internship all in the same area, especially if it was one that we didn't see a lot).

That said, I'd say your application is the kind that could easily land you where you've listed, but it's not a guarantee. So, like the poster I've quoted, I agree you should probably broaden your search a little, but you don't have to go wild and apply everywhere in the country. I agree with adding EDPA and CA3 into the mix. You might also want to consider CA4 and D.Md. I'm not sure how you feel about living in Baltimore (personally, I think it's a great city), but if you want to be near DC you should at least check out the judges located in Bethesda -- I knew people who clerked there while living in DC. You might also consider D.Mass for your first year out, assuming you're aiming to do a district court clerkship first. Personally, I hated living in Boston, but I ended up staying there an extra year after HLS for a job, and I gotta say, not having to worry about moving at the same time as studying for the bar was great.
Is it really advantageous to have a focus in a specific field (with respect to COA clerkship applications)? If the interest is IP or something, would that help or hurt?

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Re: 2023-2024 Clerkship Application Thread

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Jun 24, 2022 9:55 am

Which COA judges do we think are going to hire late/haven't hired yet? Did some interviews but no luck and really hoping to get something for 23-24.

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Re: 2023-2024 Clerkship Application Thread

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Which COA judges do we think are going to hire late/haven't hired yet? Did some interviews but no luck and really hoping to get something for 23-24.
No idea, but I’m in the same boat, so I’d love to know as well

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Re: 2023-2024 Clerkship Application Thread

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Jun 24, 2022 10:08 am

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Which COA judges do we think are going to hire late/haven't hired yet? Did some interviews but no luck and really hoping to get something for 23-24.
No idea, but I’m in the same boat, so I’d love to know as well
Is it really still possible to get something for 2023-2024 COA? Is the hope really still alive?

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Re: 2023-2024 Clerkship Application Thread

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Jun 24, 2022 10:54 am

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Lee (2d Cir) has moved
Weird that she would do that when her post said to make sure you submit by June 24
Judges fill up before "close" dates, no?
No doubt, but her app explicitly said to submit by June 24 to ensure consideration, so it just strikes me as weird to move on June 23 haha
Did she finish hiring on June 23 or just someone posted on June 23?

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Re: 2023-2024 Clerkship Application Thread

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Which COA judges do we think are going to hire late/haven't hired yet? Did some interviews but no luck and really hoping to get something for 23-24.
No idea, but I’m in the same boat, so I’d love to know as well
Is it really still possible to get something for 2023-2024 COA? Is the hope really still alive?
I mean, not even all circuit judges have posted for 2023 yet. I would say most have, but it's definitely not the case that every single one has, and then on top of that you have those who haven't moved yet.

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Re: 2023-2024 Clerkship Application Thread

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Jun 24, 2022 11:39 am

Worst feeling is no call after interview but also no rejection --> You know you're dead but you can't know for sure lol

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Re: 2023-2024 Clerkship Application Thread

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Jun 24, 2022 11:44 am

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Which COA judges do we think are going to hire late/haven't hired yet? Did some interviews but no luck and really hoping to get something for 23-24.
No idea, but I’m in the same boat, so I’d love to know as well
Is it really still possible to get something for 2023-2024 COA? Is the hope really still alive?
I mean, not even all circuit judges have posted for 2023 yet. I would say most have, but it's definitely not the case that every single one has, and then on top of that you have those who haven't moved yet.
Are there really on-plan judges that have 2023 postings for which they have not even made interview invites yet? That seems so bizarre?

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Re: 2023-2024 Clerkship Application Thread

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Jun 24, 2022 11:49 am

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Fri Jun 24, 2022 11:44 am
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Fri Jun 24, 2022 11:00 am
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Fri Jun 24, 2022 10:08 am
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Fri Jun 24, 2022 10:05 am
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Fri Jun 24, 2022 9:55 am
Which COA judges do we think are going to hire late/haven't hired yet? Did some interviews but no luck and really hoping to get something for 23-24.
No idea, but I’m in the same boat, so I’d love to know as well
Is it really still possible to get something for 2023-2024 COA? Is the hope really still alive?
I mean, not even all circuit judges have posted for 2023 yet. I would say most have, but it's definitely not the case that every single one has, and then on top of that you have those who haven't moved yet.
Are there really on-plan judges that have 2023 postings for which they have not even made interview invites yet? That seems so bizarre?
I don’t know how one could know one way or the other because who has knowledge of what every judge has done. Maybe the previous anon knows of at least one, but it also wouldn’t surprise me in the least if some senior judges don’t immediately sent out interview invites. Again, I don’t know, but it’s certainly conceivable

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Re: 2023-2024 Clerkship Application Thread

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Jun 24, 2022 11:52 am

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Fri Jun 24, 2022 11:49 am
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Fri Jun 24, 2022 11:44 am
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Fri Jun 24, 2022 11:00 am
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Fri Jun 24, 2022 10:08 am
Anonymous User wrote:
Fri Jun 24, 2022 10:05 am
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Fri Jun 24, 2022 9:55 am
Which COA judges do we think are going to hire late/haven't hired yet? Did some interviews but no luck and really hoping to get something for 23-24.
No idea, but I’m in the same boat, so I’d love to know as well
Is it really still possible to get something for 2023-2024 COA? Is the hope really still alive?
I mean, not even all circuit judges have posted for 2023 yet. I would say most have, but it's definitely not the case that every single one has, and then on top of that you have those who haven't moved yet.
Are there really on-plan judges that have 2023 postings for which they have not even made interview invites yet? That seems so bizarre?
I don’t know how one could know one way or the other because who has knowledge of what every judge has done. Maybe the previous anon knows of at least one, but it also wouldn’t surprise me in the least if some senior judges don’t immediately sent out interview invites. Again, I don’t know, but it’s certainly conceivable
Conceivable, but pretty unlikely to get an interview at this point for a 2023 COA position. Not to dash hopes, but movement after this is definitely a trickle.

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Re: 2023-2024 Clerkship Application Thread

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Jun 24, 2022 2:43 pm

Koh is done. Any news on Fletcher or Berzon? Berzon's posting says she is reviewing apps starting yesterday (Jun. 23).

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Re: 2023-2024 Clerkship Application Thread

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Jun 24, 2022 3:00 pm

Has Sorokin moved? Anybody know?

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Re: 2023-2024 Clerkship Application Thread

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Koh is done. Any news on Fletcher or Berzon? Berzon's posting says she is reviewing apps starting yesterday (Jun. 23).
Fletcher is done.

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Re: 2023-2024 Clerkship Application Thread

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Has Sorokin moved? Anybody know?
Yep Sorokin has moved and hired at least 1 (and this was like on two days after the plan so I assume he has hired more).

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Re: 2023-2024 Clerkship Application Thread

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Jun 24, 2022 6:02 pm

Anyone know if Paez, M. Smith, or Clifton have moved?

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Re: 2023-2024 Clerkship Application Thread

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Anyone know if Paez, M. Smith, or Clifton have moved?
Smith has moved

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Re: 2023-2024 Clerkship Application Thread

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Anyone know if Paez, M. Smith, or Clifton have moved?
Smith has moved
Any idea if he’s done?

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Re: 2023-2024 Clerkship Application Thread

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Jun 24, 2022 9:33 pm

Sung (Portland) is full per OSCAR.

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Re: 2023-2024 Clerkship Application Thread

Post by Anonymous User » Sun Jun 26, 2022 4:36 pm

So if I haven't gotten an interview from on plan judges yet, it's prob reasonable to losing hope abt now, right?

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