Is Katsas off-plan?
Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 8:43 pm
DC but I heard rumors of 2L's already having locked up spots with him
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how do 1Ls get hired? Some judges can identify legal talent well ahead of time, but you have literally not even taken half of the doctrinal courses if you are hired in april of your 1L year.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:26 amHe is at least not strictly on-plan. He hired a 1L back in April, at least.
FedSoc is one hell of a pipeline.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:45 amhow do 1Ls get hired? Some judges can identify legal talent well ahead of time, but you have literally not even taken half of the doctrinal courses if you are hired in april of your 1L year.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:26 amHe is at least not strictly on-plan. He hired a 1L back in April, at least.
There was a Yale 1L in an earlier thread stating that Katsas (along with Thapar, Grant, and Pryor) was hiring Yale FedSoc students without any grades.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:45 amhow do 1Ls get hired? Some judges can identify legal talent well ahead of time, but you have literally not even taken half of the doctrinal courses if you are hired in april of your 1L year.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:26 amHe is at least not strictly on-plan. He hired a 1L back in April, at least.
Also pre law school qualifications.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:45 amhow do 1Ls get hired? Some judges can identify legal talent well ahead of time, but you have literally not even taken half of the doctrinal courses if you are hired in april of your 1L year.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:26 amHe is at least not strictly on-plan. He hired a 1L back in April, at least.
To be fair, though, YLS doesn't have grades at all, at least for 1Ls, right? So the only real risk in doing what they're doing is hiring someone who will turn out to actually flunk a class or two, which I'm guessing is pretty rare, and which profs can probably predict reasonably well before sending them through the pipeline. What I'm more shocked about is that FedSoc 2/9/DC and feeders will often hire 1Ls from Chicago with 1 quarter of grades--15% of their first-year GPA. I personally shot up from no honors to high honors after my second quarter there, and if I were FedSoc, I would've hated to lose an opportunity with an early-hiring judge because of an absurdly small sample size of exams.jackshunger wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 12:22 pmThere was a Yale 1L in an earlier thread stating that Katsas (along with Thapar, Grant, and Pryor) was hiring Yale FedSoc students without any grades. This year hiring seems to have moved up as no schools had grades second semester -- there was no reason for judges to wait.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:45 amhow do 1Ls get hired? Some judges can identify legal talent well ahead of time, but you have literally not even taken half of the doctrinal courses if you are hired in april of your 1L year.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:26 amHe is at least not strictly on-plan. He hired a 1L back in April, at least.
Anonymous User wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 12:46 pmTo be fair, though, YLS doesn't have grades at all, at least for 1Ls, right? So the only real risk in doing what they're doing is hiring someone who will turn out to actually flunk a class or two, which I'm guessing is pretty rare, and which profs can probably predict reasonably well before sending them through the pipeline. What I'm more shocked about is that FedSoc 2/9/DC and feeders will often hire 1Ls from Chicago with 1 quarter of grades--15% of their first-year GPA. I personally shot up from no honors to high honors after my second quarter there, and if I were FedSoc, I would've hated to lose an opportunity with an early-hiring judge because of an absurdly small sample size of exams.jackshunger wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 12:22 pmThere was a Yale 1L in an earlier thread stating that Katsas (along with Thapar, Grant, and Pryor) was hiring Yale FedSoc students without any grades. This year hiring seems to have moved up as no schools had grades second semester -- there was no reason for judges to wait.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:45 amhow do 1Ls get hired? Some judges can identify legal talent well ahead of time, but you have literally not even taken half of the doctrinal courses if you are hired in april of your 1L year.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:26 amHe is at least not strictly on-plan. He hired a 1L back in April, at least.
Not a political agenda, just pointing out current trends. Liberals have certainly hired early in the past (I've heard of Srinivasan hiring mid-1L before, even from CCN), but currently, the overwhelming majority of them are on-plan. And I assume many of them will return to hiring 1Ls if the plan crashes again.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 1:15 pmHiring 1Ls only based on 1 semester's grades isn't exclusively a YLS thing OR exclusively a FedSoc thing (the people pushing the latter clearly have their own politics/agenda to push).
Interesting. Any other liberals who "cheat", even if their MO is on-plan?Anonymous User wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 1:44 pmNot a political agenda, just pointing out current trends. Liberals have certainly hired early in the past (I've heard of Srinivasan hiring mid-1L before, even from CCN), but currently, the overwhelming majority of them are on-plan. And I assume many of them will return to hiring 1Ls if the plan crashes again.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 1:15 pmHiring 1Ls only based on 1 semester's grades isn't exclusively a YLS thing OR exclusively a FedSoc thing (the people pushing the latter clearly have their own politics/agenda to push).