2021-2022 Clerkship Application Thread

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Re: 2021-2022 Clerkship Application Thread

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Jun 22, 2020 2:17 pm

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What are people's clerkship offices telling them? Our clerkship advisor is out for the week, so we're not really hearing anything, but is this slower than expected because of coronavirus, more applicants and more competition because of coronavirus, or are things normal and if you haven't heard from now you shouldn't expect to hear anything?
Things are slower than usual. Last week we saw the usual frenzy of more competitive judges fighting for the best people from HYSCCN, but that's definitely not representative of DCT/COA hiring nationwide. A lot of judges have pushed hiring for 2021 and 2022 back, and you've probably seen several judges on OSCAR have explicitly stated that they'll be interviewing/hiring later than usual. If you haven't heard anything, you're certainly not out of the running yet.

Another trend that we're seeing (not a lot, but a little) is judges keeping some of their clerks on for an extra year, because post-clerkship hiring is way down, and a lot of firms would rather hire a lateral rather than a clerk who would require a $50k clerkship bonus.

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Re: 2021-2022 Clerkship Application Thread

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Jun 22, 2020 2:21 pm

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Does this email mean anything other than what it says on its face? Sent from the Administrative Assistant of a COA Judge.

"This email has been sent to you from the Chambers of Judge [redacted]

Thank you for your application for a clerkship during the 2021-2022 term. For the 2021-2022 term, Judge [Redacted] plans to review applications and conduct interviews on a rolling basis. Your application should be continually updated through March 2021."

The hopeful part of me thinks this is an indication of a forthcoming interview (had a strong recommender who personally knows this judge call). The pessimistic part of me thinks this is simply a form email that the judge is going to put off interviews. Any insight?
I got the same form email this morning, I think. And I've gotten this kind of email from other judges before. I think its basically a form email that the Judge will put off interviews. BUT, having a strong recommender with personal connections makes your chances of an interview higher than mine.
OP Anon: just received an interview invite email from the same judge, ~5 hours after initial “form” email.

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Re: 2021-2022 Clerkship Application Thread

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Jun 22, 2020 2:24 pm

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Mon Jun 22, 2020 2:21 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Mon Jun 22, 2020 9:49 am
Anonymous User wrote:
Mon Jun 22, 2020 9:36 am
Does this email mean anything other than what it says on its face? Sent from the Administrative Assistant of a COA Judge.

"This email has been sent to you from the Chambers of Judge [redacted]

Thank you for your application for a clerkship during the 2021-2022 term. For the 2021-2022 term, Judge [Redacted] plans to review applications and conduct interviews on a rolling basis. Your application should be continually updated through March 2021."

The hopeful part of me thinks this is an indication of a forthcoming interview (had a strong recommender who personally knows this judge call). The pessimistic part of me thinks this is simply a form email that the judge is going to put off interviews. Any insight?
I got the same form email this morning, I think. And I've gotten this kind of email from other judges before. I think its basically a form email that the Judge will put off interviews. BUT, having a strong recommender with personal connections makes your chances of an interview higher than mine.
OP Anon: just received an interview invite email from the same judge, ~5 hours after initial “form” email.
Nice! I hope it goes well!

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Re: 2021-2022 Clerkship Application Thread

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Jun 22, 2020 2:28 pm

Anyone heard of any movement from District judges in Denver? Specifically Arguello, Brimmer, Jackson?

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Re: 2021-2022 Clerkship Application Thread

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Jun 22, 2020 2:34 pm

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Mon Jun 22, 2020 2:12 pm
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Mon Jun 22, 2020 2:03 pm
Any movement today on the CoA?
Thomas filled, officially.
Also interested in any knowledge of CoA movement.

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Re: 2021-2022 Clerkship Application Thread

Post by ANobody » Mon Jun 22, 2020 2:39 pm

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Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:39 am
Data point: top 5% HYSCCN, LR board, published, half a dozen COA interviews, accepted an offer, still nothing from district courts. Hoping the answer is that it's slow.
Nielson (D. Utah) might be a good fit.

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Re: 2021-2022 Clerkship Application Thread

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Jun 22, 2020 2:48 pm

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Mon Jun 22, 2020 2:15 pm
What are people's clerkship offices telling them? Our clerkship advisor is out for the week, so we're not really hearing anything, but is this slower than expected because of coronavirus, more applicants and more competition because of coronavirus, or are things normal and if you haven't heard from now you shouldn't expect to hear anything?
Copy-pasting from a t-14 clerkship office email sent last week:

"This clerkship hiring cycle seems to be off to a slower start, and there are some judges who hired immediately at the start of the clerkship hiring cycle last year who we believe have not scheduled interviews yet. Although the season is off to a swift beginning with a few judges in places like New York and DC, judges in some other regions will take more time to start the interview and hiring process. We believe that many judges even in competitive geographic areas will schedule interviews throughout the summer and beyond."

Hope that helps. Don't give up yet!

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Re: 2021-2022 Clerkship Application Thread

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Jun 22, 2020 2:51 pm

ANobody wrote:
Mon Jun 22, 2020 2:39 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:39 am
Data point: top 5% HYSCCN, LR board, published, half a dozen COA interviews, accepted an offer, still nothing from district courts. Hoping the answer is that it's slow.
Nielson (D. Utah) might be a good fit.
Why are you spamming this D. Utah judge?

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Re: 2021-2022 Clerkship Application Thread

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Jun 22, 2020 2:53 pm

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Mon Jun 22, 2020 2:28 pm
Anyone heard of any movement from District judges in Denver? Specifically Arguello, Brimmer, Jackson?
Brimmer has filled his position. I got an email letting me know.

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Re: 2021-2022 Clerkship Application Thread

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Jun 22, 2020 2:54 pm

Does anyone know if there's been any D.N.H. movement?

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Re: 2021-2022 Clerkship Application Thread

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Jun 22, 2020 2:59 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Mon Jun 22, 2020 2:51 pm
ANobody wrote:
Mon Jun 22, 2020 2:39 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:39 am
Data point: top 5% HYSCCN, LR board, published, half a dozen COA interviews, accepted an offer, still nothing from district courts. Hoping the answer is that it's slow.
Nielson (D. Utah) might be a good fit.
Why are you spamming this D. Utah judge?
Probably because a guy with a record like this is not getting a ton of applicants

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Mr. Nielson has made offensive arguments in LGBT rights cases in recent years. In 2011, after District Judge Vaughn Walker issued an injunction prohibiting the state of California from enforcing the Proposition 8 ban on marriage equality, and in the wake of press reports that Judge Walker was gay, Mr. Nielson filed a motion to vacate the judgment. Mr. Nielson wrote: “Given that Chief Judge Walker was in a committed, long-term, same-sex relationship throughout this case (and for many years before the case commenced), it is clear that his ‘impartiality might reasonably [have been] questioned’ from the outset…. The pall cast by the palpable appearance of judicial partiality upon one of the most prominent and widely publicized constitutional cases in this Country’s history threatens deep and lasting harm to the public’s confidence in our nation’s judicial system.” Mr. Nielson’s motion was denied by a different judge.

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Re: 2021-2022 Clerkship Application Thread

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Jun 22, 2020 3:04 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Mon Jun 22, 2020 2:51 pm
ANobody wrote:
Mon Jun 22, 2020 2:39 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:39 am
Data point: top 5% HYSCCN, LR board, published, half a dozen COA interviews, accepted an offer, still nothing from district courts. Hoping the answer is that it's slow.
Nielson (D. Utah) might be a good fit.
Why are you spamming this D. Utah judge?
Is Nielson trying to establish himself as the next Thapar or something? He's taken a couple of appellate-level students from Chicago since he got onto the bench.

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Re: 2021-2022 Clerkship Application Thread

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Jun 22, 2020 3:09 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Mon Jun 22, 2020 2:59 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Mon Jun 22, 2020 2:51 pm
ANobody wrote:
Mon Jun 22, 2020 2:39 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:39 am
Data point: top 5% HYSCCN, LR board, published, half a dozen COA interviews, accepted an offer, still nothing from district courts. Hoping the answer is that it's slow.
Nielson (D. Utah) might be a good fit.
Why are you spamming this D. Utah judge?
Probably because a guy with a record like this is not getting a ton of applicants

e.g.
Mr. Nielson has made offensive arguments in LGBT rights cases in recent years. In 2011, after District Judge Vaughn Walker issued an injunction prohibiting the state of California from enforcing the Proposition 8 ban on marriage equality, and in the wake of press reports that Judge Walker was gay, Mr. Nielson filed a motion to vacate the judgment. Mr. Nielson wrote: “Given that Chief Judge Walker was in a committed, long-term, same-sex relationship throughout this case (and for many years before the case commenced), it is clear that his ‘impartiality might reasonably [have been] questioned’ from the outset…. The pall cast by the palpable appearance of judicial partiality upon one of the most prominent and widely publicized constitutional cases in this Country’s history threatens deep and lasting harm to the public’s confidence in our nation’s judicial system.” Mr. Nielson’s motion was denied by a different judge.
So you're saying there's a chance he's still hiring?

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Re: 2021-2022 Clerkship Application Thread

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Jun 22, 2020 3:29 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Mon Jun 22, 2020 3:09 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Mon Jun 22, 2020 2:59 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Mon Jun 22, 2020 2:51 pm
ANobody wrote:
Mon Jun 22, 2020 2:39 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:39 am
Data point: top 5% HYSCCN, LR board, published, half a dozen COA interviews, accepted an offer, still nothing from district courts. Hoping the answer is that it's slow.
Nielson (D. Utah) might be a good fit.
Why are you spamming this D. Utah judge?
Probably because a guy with a record like this is not getting a ton of applicants

e.g.
Mr. Nielson has made offensive arguments in LGBT rights cases in recent years. In 2011, after District Judge Vaughn Walker issued an injunction prohibiting the state of California from enforcing the Proposition 8 ban on marriage equality, and in the wake of press reports that Judge Walker was gay, Mr. Nielson filed a motion to vacate the judgment. Mr. Nielson wrote: “Given that Chief Judge Walker was in a committed, long-term, same-sex relationship throughout this case (and for many years before the case commenced), it is clear that his ‘impartiality might reasonably [have been] questioned’ from the outset…. The pall cast by the palpable appearance of judicial partiality upon one of the most prominent and widely publicized constitutional cases in this Country’s history threatens deep and lasting harm to the public’s confidence in our nation’s judicial system.” Mr. Nielson’s motion was denied by a different judge.
So you're saying there's a chance he's still hiring?
He's filled his 2021 spots according to OSCAR. He is also not actively looking 2022. My guess is that, like many new district judges, he wants people with experience clerking elseware first. at least for the first few years. I am not sure how his fan club in this thread can say that he is a ticket to a COA clerkship when he has only been on the bench for a year.

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Re: 2021-2022 Clerkship Application Thread

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Jun 22, 2020 3:49 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Mon Jun 22, 2020 2:34 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Mon Jun 22, 2020 2:12 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Mon Jun 22, 2020 2:03 pm
Any movement today on the CoA?
Thomas filled, officially.
Also interested in any knowledge of CoA movement.
Per OSCAR: Lynch (1st Cir) filled for 2021, Kethledge filled for 2021 and 2022 and Henderson.

Really hoping there's more movement this week with CoA judges

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Re: 2021-2022 Clerkship Application Thread

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Jun 22, 2020 4:14 pm

Did everyone else get the email from Flaum's Chambers?

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Re: 2021-2022 Clerkship Application Thread

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Jun 22, 2020 4:14 pm

Data point: c/o 2019, biglaw corporate experience, admitted to bar, CCN, above average GPA, exec board in non-LR journal, published note, strong recs. Only applied to non-competitive districts. No bites.
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Re: 2021-2022 Clerkship Application Thread

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Jun 22, 2020 4:16 pm

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Did everyone else get the email from Flaum's Chambers?

I did. “Received. Let us know if you get accept somewhere. Thanks for the interest.”

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Re: 2021-2022 Clerkship Application Thread

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Jun 22, 2020 4:19 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Mon Jun 22, 2020 4:16 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Mon Jun 22, 2020 4:14 pm
Did everyone else get the email from Flaum's Chambers?

I did. “Received. Let us know if you get accept somewhere. Thanks for the interest.”
I figured it was sent to everyone but just wanted to double check. Thanks!

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Re: 2021-2022 Clerkship Application Thread

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Jun 22, 2020 5:20 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Mon Jun 22, 2020 3:49 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Mon Jun 22, 2020 2:34 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Mon Jun 22, 2020 2:12 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Mon Jun 22, 2020 2:03 pm
Any movement today on the CoA?
Thomas filled, officially.
Also interested in any knowledge of CoA movement.
Per OSCAR: Lynch (1st Cir) filled for 2021, Kethledge filled for 2021 and 2022 and Henderson.

Really hoping there's more movement this week with CoA judges
Another day of silence for my CoA apps.

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Re: 2021-2022 Clerkship Application Thread

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Jun 22, 2020 5:22 pm

Any movement from D. Vt? Crawford or Sessions?

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Re: 2021-2022 Clerkship Application Thread

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Jun 22, 2020 5:30 pm

Also got the Flaum email, am not at all competitive so clearly went to everyone.

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Re: 2021-2022 Clerkship Application Thread

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Jun 22, 2020 6:12 pm

Interview invite for Kleinfeld (9th Cir.) today.

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Re: 2021-2022 Clerkship Application Thread

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Jun 22, 2020 6:14 pm

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Interview invite for Kleinfeld (9th Cir.) today.
Wahoo! Great news. Thanks for the update.

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Re: 2021-2022 Clerkship Application Thread

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Jun 22, 2020 6:45 pm

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Mon Jun 22, 2020 6:14 pm
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Mon Jun 22, 2020 6:12 pm
Interview invite for Kleinfeld (9th Cir.) today.
Wahoo! Great news. Thanks for the update.
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