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fats provolone wrote:did he get the bonus?
OP here. I'm less concerned. It's not like he turned it into a job at Skadden. And he worked for free for almost a year. He's got to know he's lying, and that's pretty brazen, but oh well. On balance, it doesn't bother me that much. I just wonder if it will blow up in his face. There's a chance that his new employer equates a clerkship with an externship, in which case it won't. On the other hand, a conversation between someone at his new firm and someone from chambers would definitely end in a correction of the record.Anonymous User wrote:As one of many who is struggling through the battlefield of applying to clerkships, this completely infuriates me
As a current clerk, I really don't care.Anonymous User wrote:As one of many who is struggling through the battlefield of applying to clerkships, this completely infuriates me
Desert Fox wrote:Sounds like he did your job, why shouldn't he put it down.
I think that was the judge's plan. What he actually did was fuck everything up and make everyone's job harder. I had him do extra reviews of things, some make work, and super short and simple orders that no one could screw up.Desert Fox wrote:Sounds like he did your job, why shouldn't he put it down.
If it's one of those "volunteer" clerkship, I think it's fair game. I mean the dude put in a year of free labor.Anonymous User wrote:Anonymous User wrote:he worked for free for almost a year.
Na man. That wasn't his title. He knows he was an extern. He applied through his school's externship program. He was called an extern by everyone. He was there until he could find another job. Just so happens that it took a year. And the judge considered asking him to leave several times. Sorry you think I'm butt hurt. If I was, I'd try to screw the guy, or at least tell the judge and see what he thinks. I just thought it was noteworthy that he did it. But as someone else suggested, it could just be his bosses.Desert Fox wrote:
Volunteer Clerkships are a real thing. Sounds like this guy had one. Unless the judge gave him a different title, then this guy 100% should call himself a clerk. That's the entire reason he'd work for free for a year.
Just because he sucked doesn't mean he wasn't a clerk. A resume doesn't include a section on how well his coworker thinks he did.
You are just butthurt he's steal UR PRESTIGUE
I agree. My favorite thing about volunteer clerkships is that one of the D. Colo judges who offers it was a plaintiff's employment lawyer, including wage & hour.Desert Fox wrote:Volunteer Clerkships are a real thing. Sounds like this guy had one. Unless the judge gave him a different title, then this guy 100% should call himself a clerk. That's the entire reason he'd work for free for a year.Anonymous User wrote:I think that was the judge's plan. What he actually did was fuck everything up and make everyone's job harder. I had him do extra reviews of things, some make work, and super short and simple orders that no one could screw up.Desert Fox wrote:Sounds like he did your job, why shouldn't he put it down.
As I said earlier, I really don't care at all. I'm just surprised he would do it in light of how easy it would be to get found out.
I'm not gonna screw the guy's career over though.
Just because he sucked doesn't mean he wasn't a clerk. A resume doesn't include a section on how well his coworker thinks he did.
You are just butthurt he's steal UR PRESTIGUE
I thought he was post grad? If so (technically speaking) this couldn't be an externship. Per Merriam Webster: Externship = a training program that is part of a course of study of an educational institution and is taken in private business.Anonymous User wrote:Na man. That wasn't his title. He knows he was an extern. He applied through his school's externship program. He was called an extern by everyone. He was there until he could find another job. Just so happens that it took a year. And the judge considered asking him to leave several times. Sorry you think I'm butt hurt. If I was, I'd try to screw the guy, or at least tell the judge and see what he thinks. I just thought it was noteworthy that he did it. But as someone else suggested, it could just be his bosses.Desert Fox wrote:
Volunteer Clerkships are a real thing. Sounds like this guy had one. Unless the judge gave him a different title, then this guy 100% should call himself a clerk. That's the entire reason he'd work for free for a year.
Just because he sucked doesn't mean he wasn't a clerk. A resume doesn't include a section on how well his coworker thinks he did.
You are just butthurt he's steal UR PRESTIGUE
Why? If he does score an interview, either his 'experience' will be acceptable or not. (There is just too much that you cannot control, so why waste your energy on this?)As one of many who is struggling through the battlefield of applying to clerkships, this completely infuriates me
So why post it? I mean, who cares? (Hint: people stretch the truth on resumes all the time, and any resume reader knows it.)On balance, it doesn't bother me that much
That's not been my experience at all.jchiles wrote:Every judge I've talked to used the term "clerk" to refer from people ranging from high school interns to career clerks so i don't think judges are getting too hung up on this stuff.