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Federal Circuit for Non-Patent?

Post by Anonymous User » Fri May 23, 2014 2:39 pm

Does anyone know if any judges on the Federal Circuit like to have non-patent clerks - ones who take the Federal Claims, ITC, CIT, and the non-patent federal statutes appeals? I'd be interested in doing that but absolutely loathe patent work. Probably the correct response is, "Don't go to the Federal Circuit," but the other stuff sounds interesting enough that I'd enjoy the experience.

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Re: Federal Circuit for Non-Patent?

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Anonymous User wrote:Does anyone know if any judges on the Federal Circuit like to have non-patent clerks - ones who take the Federal Claims, ITC, CIT, and the non-patent federal statutes appeals? I'd be interested in doing that but absolutely loathe patent work. Probably the correct response is, "Don't go to the Federal Circuit," but the other stuff sounds interesting enough that I'd enjoy the experience.


Not directly responsive, but I was talking to a Fed. Cir. clerk once, and he bitched about all the non-patent cases he has to do, and made it sound like all his co-clerks were patent-minded, and that his was a common sentiment.

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Re: Federal Circuit for Non-Patent?

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Anonymous User wrote:Does anyone know if any judges on the Federal Circuit like to have non-patent clerks - ones who take the Federal Claims, ITC, CIT, and the non-patent federal statutes appeals? I'd be interested in doing that but absolutely loathe patent work. Probably the correct response is, "Don't go to the Federal Circuit," but the other stuff sounds interesting enough that I'd enjoy the experience.


Not directly responsive, but I was talking to a Fed. Cir. clerk once, and he bitched about all the non-patent cases he has to do, and made it sound like all his co-clerks were patent-minded, and that his was a common sentiment.
Former COFC clerk here. I can confirm this sentiment was common from the patent Fed Cir clerk bros I met. :D Why wouldn't they want to deal with contracts, takings, vaccine, etc. claims?

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Re: Federal Circuit for Non-Patent?

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Anonymous User wrote:Does anyone know if any judges on the Federal Circuit like to have non-patent clerks - ones who take the Federal Claims, ITC, CIT, and the non-patent federal statutes appeals? I'd be interested in doing that but absolutely loathe patent work. Probably the correct response is, "Don't go to the Federal Circuit," but the other stuff sounds interesting enough that I'd enjoy the experience.


Not directly responsive, but I was talking to a Fed. Cir. clerk once, and he bitched about all the non-patent cases he has to do, and made it sound like all his co-clerks were patent-minded, and that his was a common sentiment.
Former COFC clerk here. I can confirm this sentiment was common from the patent Fed Cir clerk bros I met. :D Why wouldn't they want to deal with contracts, takings, vaccine, etc. claims?
Did you come across any clerks that were assigned exclusively to non-patent work?

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Re: Federal Circuit for Non-Patent?

Post by Anonymous User » Fri May 23, 2014 4:08 pm

I'd say about half the judges at the Federal Circuit are open to hiring a clerk who has no interest in a career in patent law. However, I don't think a single judge would hire someone who "loathed" patent law. It's basically impossible to avoid patent law while clerking at the cafc. You don't have to be a patent law geek to clerk there, and cafc clerks move on to non-patent careers (e.g., commercial division of DOJ), but you've got to be willing to deal with patent law during your clerkship.

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Re: Federal Circuit for Non-Patent?

Post by Nelson » Fri May 23, 2014 7:57 pm

The more important issue is that once you clerk on Fed Cir it will be very hard to avoid having firms slot you into patent for the rest of your career.

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Re: Federal Circuit for Non-Patent?

Post by Anonymous User » Sun May 25, 2014 5:25 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:Does anyone know if any judges on the Federal Circuit like to have non-patent clerks - ones who take the Federal Claims, ITC, CIT, and the non-patent federal statutes appeals? I'd be interested in doing that but absolutely loathe patent work. Probably the correct response is, "Don't go to the Federal Circuit," but the other stuff sounds interesting enough that I'd enjoy the experience.


Not directly responsive, but I was talking to a Fed. Cir. clerk once, and he bitched about all the non-patent cases he has to do, and made it sound like all his co-clerks were patent-minded, and that his was a common sentiment.
Former COFC clerk here. I can confirm this sentiment was common from the patent Fed Cir clerk bros I met. :D Why wouldn't they want to deal with contracts, takings, vaccine, etc. claims?
Did you come across any clerks that were assigned exclusively to non-patent work?
Nope. I highly doubt any of the judges hire that way, but it's possible. Plenty of other judges have exclusively criminal/civil clerks.

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