Re: Let's Talk 9th Circuit!
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2024 2:56 pm
Anyone know if Murguia has moved yet
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I know a clerk of hers who was around top 15% with LR.
She's hired from my school (one of UMich, UVA, Penn, NYU) within the past 3 years. That clerk did not have graduation honors or a district clerkship but had some other biographical hooks.
Hires from both Berkeley and UCLA.
This has to be a mistake? Other than maybe Owens, Nguyen is probably the most moderate “liberal” on the courtAnonymous User wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 12:26 amThis is a good list. I’d add Koh as a ‘heavy hitter’ contender and Miller to the ‘very well-respected’ list.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 6:26 pmIkuta, Friedland, and Bress are probably the three heaviest hitters on CA9 who are not senior. Collins and Owens are also very well-respected, and Bumatay has a lot of credibility in conservative circles, but those are the ones who come to mind. Many of the senior judges (O'Scannlain, Fletcher, Graber, Thomas, McKeown, Bybee, Hurwitz, and potentially others) are also very well-regarded.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2024 3:54 pmAgree with the above, and the prior poster that CA1 has Barron. To bring this back somewhat back on track...who are the current "heavy hitters" on CA9 who aren't senior status? (However you might define that. Obviously there's feeders/semi-feeders, but I'm also thinking in terms of general "prestige" to a typical BigLaw hiring audience.)Anonymous User wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2024 3:30 pmI'd argue Stras Gruender and Colloton have a lot of cache in the prestige-whore conservative legal circles and that's like 30% of the actives on CA8
Also, ranking non-feeder judges is a little silly, but most of the other active judges are well-respected in the circuit and nationwide. The only active judges I’d think twice about clerking for are VanDyke (because of his far-right ideology), Bade (lightweight), and Nguyen (not as far-left as VanDyke is far-right, but would still give me pause).
Yep. Even if we’re just considering female Asian judges, Sung and Koh are far, far, far to the left of Nguyen and I assume this poster was referring to one of them.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 1:24 amThis has to be a mistake? Other than maybe Owens, Nguyen is probably the most moderate “liberal” on the courtAnonymous User wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 12:26 amThis is a good list. I’d add Koh as a ‘heavy hitter’ contender and Miller to the ‘very well-respected’ list.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 6:26 pmIkuta, Friedland, and Bress are probably the three heaviest hitters on CA9 who are not senior. Collins and Owens are also very well-respected, and Bumatay has a lot of credibility in conservative circles, but those are the ones who come to mind. Many of the senior judges (O'Scannlain, Fletcher, Graber, Thomas, McKeown, Bybee, Hurwitz, and potentially others) are also very well-regarded.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2024 3:54 pmAgree with the above, and the prior poster that CA1 has Barron. To bring this back somewhat back on track...who are the current "heavy hitters" on CA9 who aren't senior status? (However you might define that. Obviously there's feeders/semi-feeders, but I'm also thinking in terms of general "prestige" to a typical BigLaw hiring audience.)Anonymous User wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2024 3:30 pmI'd argue Stras Gruender and Colloton have a lot of cache in the prestige-whore conservative legal circles and that's like 30% of the actives on CA8
Also, ranking non-feeder judges is a little silly, but most of the other active judges are well-respected in the circuit and nationwide. The only active judges I’d think twice about clerking for are VanDyke (because of his far-right ideology), Bade (lightweight), and Nguyen (not as far-left as VanDyke is far-right, but would still give me pause).
If that happened… that’s pretty offensive lol — Koh, Sung, and Nguyen have such different names, different ethnic backgrounds, different professional backgrounds, different methodological priors, and different appearances. How anyone could confuse them is beyond me.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2024 1:59 amYep. Even if we’re just considering female Asian judges, Sung and Koh are far, far, far to the left of Nguyen and I assume this poster was referring to one of them.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 1:24 amThis has to be a mistake? Other than maybe Owens, Nguyen is probably the most moderate “liberal” on the courtAnonymous User wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 12:26 amThis is a good list. I’d add Koh as a ‘heavy hitter’ contender and Miller to the ‘very well-respected’ list.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 6:26 pmIkuta, Friedland, and Bress are probably the three heaviest hitters on CA9 who are not senior. Collins and Owens are also very well-respected, and Bumatay has a lot of credibility in conservative circles, but those are the ones who come to mind. Many of the senior judges (O'Scannlain, Fletcher, Graber, Thomas, McKeown, Bybee, Hurwitz, and potentially others) are also very well-regarded.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2024 3:54 pmAgree with the above, and the prior poster that CA1 has Barron. To bring this back somewhat back on track...who are the current "heavy hitters" on CA9 who aren't senior status? (However you might define that. Obviously there's feeders/semi-feeders, but I'm also thinking in terms of general "prestige" to a typical BigLaw hiring audience.)Anonymous User wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2024 3:30 pmI'd argue Stras Gruender and Colloton have a lot of cache in the prestige-whore conservative legal circles and that's like 30% of the actives on CA8
Also, ranking non-feeder judges is a little silly, but most of the other active judges are well-respected in the circuit and nationwide. The only active judges I’d think twice about clerking for are VanDyke (because of his far-right ideology), Bade (lightweight), and Nguyen (not as far-left as VanDyke is far-right, but would still give me pause).
(I would say Gould and Owens are the two most moderate “liberals” on the Ninth who are still active, but Nguyen is definitely up there.)
Rawlinson and some of the recent seniors (Graber, McKeown) are probably a little less reliably liberal, but yeah, Nguyen is a very mainstream Dem appointee. That was a weird comment.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 1:24 amThis has to be a mistake? Other than maybe Owens, Nguyen is probably the most moderate “liberal” on the courtAnonymous User wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 12:26 amThis is a good list. I’d add Koh as a ‘heavy hitter’ contender and Miller to the ‘very well-respected’ list.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 6:26 pmIkuta, Friedland, and Bress are probably the three heaviest hitters on CA9 who are not senior. Collins and Owens are also very well-respected, and Bumatay has a lot of credibility in conservative circles, but those are the ones who come to mind. Many of the senior judges (O'Scannlain, Fletcher, Graber, Thomas, McKeown, Bybee, Hurwitz, and potentially others) are also very well-regarded.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2024 3:54 pmAgree with the above, and the prior poster that CA1 has Barron. To bring this back somewhat back on track...who are the current "heavy hitters" on CA9 who aren't senior status? (However you might define that. Obviously there's feeders/semi-feeders, but I'm also thinking in terms of general "prestige" to a typical BigLaw hiring audience.)Anonymous User wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2024 3:30 pmI'd argue Stras Gruender and Colloton have a lot of cache in the prestige-whore conservative legal circles and that's like 30% of the actives on CA8
Also, ranking non-feeder judges is a little silly, but most of the other active judges are well-respected in the circuit and nationwide. The only active judges I’d think twice about clerking for are VanDyke (because of his far-right ideology), Bade (lightweight), and Nguyen (not as far-left as VanDyke is far-right, but would still give me pause).
holy cow I interviewed with her a few years back sooooo glad I wasn't hired. Such a crapshoot sometimesAnonymous User wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2024 12:13 amWtf, how bad must that clerkship be? How are chambers even operating?Anonymous User wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2024 8:38 pmAll three of her clerks quit.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2024 6:17 pmWhat's the deal with Thompson's 7-month and 9-month clerkships? Saw that they expired already, but those are weird (and soon)!
Also curious about this!Anonymous User wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2024 4:51 pmHello! Does anyone have any insights as to whether Judge Sung has started inviting folks for interviews? (2025-26 clerkships). Also any insights into grades required to be serious?
Also wondering this.
Last year she moved very slowly
Probably means you made some kind of initial cut, because I didn't get that email ripAnonymous User wrote: ↑Thu May 30, 2024 11:54 amAny news on Johnstone? His chambers sent out an email to off-plan applicants last Friday informing them that the Judge “will review these applications next week and schedule interviews for the following week.” Unclear whether he’s sent out those interviews yet but would appreciate any insight!
I also got the email sent to off-plan applicants, and I haven't heard anything at this point. I imagine if you don't get a call/email tomorrow, you didn't make the cut since the interviews are supposed to start next week.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Thu May 30, 2024 11:54 amAny news on Johnstone? His chambers sent out an email to off-plan applicants last Friday informing them that the Judge “will review these applications next week and schedule interviews for the following week.” Unclear whether he’s sent out those interviews yet but would appreciate any insight!
From the original commenter -- thanks for the data point! I figured the same. Keeping my fingers crossed for both of us tomorrow.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Thu May 30, 2024 4:23 pmI also got the email sent to off-plan applicants, and I haven't heard anything at this point. I imagine if you don't get a call/email tomorrow, you didn't make the cut since the interviews are supposed to start next week.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Thu May 30, 2024 11:54 amAny news on Johnstone? His chambers sent out an email to off-plan applicants last Friday informing them that the Judge “will review these applications next week and schedule interviews for the following week.” Unclear whether he’s sent out those interviews yet but would appreciate any insight!
I'm not too sure about this--it seemed like the original email was sent through OSCAR, I saw it almost as some kind of form email that was mass-sent to all off-plan applicants? It almost looked like one of those plain-text OSCAR updates and I mistook it for a daily OSCAR update when I first saw it.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Thu May 30, 2024 2:07 pmProbably means you made some kind of initial cut, because I didn't get that email ripAnonymous User wrote: ↑Thu May 30, 2024 11:54 amAny news on Johnstone? His chambers sent out an email to off-plan applicants last Friday informing them that the Judge “will review these applications next week and schedule interviews for the following week.” Unclear whether he’s sent out those interviews yet but would appreciate any insight!
Ah yep I got it. Seems like it was to everyone after all.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Thu May 30, 2024 8:57 pmFrom the original commenter -- thanks for the data point! I figured the same. Keeping my fingers crossed for both of us tomorrow.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Thu May 30, 2024 4:23 pmI also got the email sent to off-plan applicants, and I haven't heard anything at this point. I imagine if you don't get a call/email tomorrow, you didn't make the cut since the interviews are supposed to start next week.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Thu May 30, 2024 11:54 amAny news on Johnstone? His chambers sent out an email to off-plan applicants last Friday informing them that the Judge “will review these applications next week and schedule interviews for the following week.” Unclear whether he’s sent out those interviews yet but would appreciate any insight!
I'm not too sure about this--it seemed like the original email was sent through OSCAR, I saw it almost as some kind of form email that was mass-sent to all off-plan applicants? It almost looked like one of those plain-text OSCAR updates and I mistook it for a daily OSCAR update when I first saw it.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Thu May 30, 2024 2:07 pmProbably means you made some kind of initial cut, because I didn't get that email ripAnonymous User wrote: ↑Thu May 30, 2024 11:54 amAny news on Johnstone? His chambers sent out an email to off-plan applicants last Friday informing them that the Judge “will review these applications next week and schedule interviews for the following week.” Unclear whether he’s sent out those interviews yet but would appreciate any insight!
Also got the email. If we don't hear back today, should we assume we haven't moved forward in the process?Anonymous User wrote: ↑Thu May 30, 2024 9:50 pmAh yep I got it. Seems like it was to everyone after all.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Thu May 30, 2024 8:57 pmFrom the original commenter -- thanks for the data point! I figured the same. Keeping my fingers crossed for both of us tomorrow.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Thu May 30, 2024 4:23 pmI also got the email sent to off-plan applicants, and I haven't heard anything at this point. I imagine if you don't get a call/email tomorrow, you didn't make the cut since the interviews are supposed to start next week.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Thu May 30, 2024 11:54 amAny news on Johnstone? His chambers sent out an email to off-plan applicants last Friday informing them that the Judge “will review these applications next week and schedule interviews for the following week.” Unclear whether he’s sent out those interviews yet but would appreciate any insight!
I'm not too sure about this--it seemed like the original email was sent through OSCAR, I saw it almost as some kind of form email that was mass-sent to all off-plan applicants? It almost looked like one of those plain-text OSCAR updates and I mistook it for a daily OSCAR update when I first saw it.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Thu May 30, 2024 2:07 pmProbably means you made some kind of initial cut, because I didn't get that email ripAnonymous User wrote: ↑Thu May 30, 2024 11:54 amAny news on Johnstone? His chambers sent out an email to off-plan applicants last Friday informing them that the Judge “will review these applications next week and schedule interviews for the following week.” Unclear whether he’s sent out those interviews yet but would appreciate any insight!
Did it appear to be a mass email or individualized to recipient?Anonymous User wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2024 4:30 pmJohnstone interview invites went out a few minutes ago.