How to read casebook?
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 8:55 pm
Should I be taking notes while reading?Underlining? Highlighting? I don't know what to focus on
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I'll second this. In the end, I boiled every class down into a single page listing of all rules and their elements that I could recall from memory and write down on a blank sheet of paper as soon as the exam began. The readings seem overwhelming, But if I hadn't done the readings and written my own outlines, I wouldn't know how to apply all the rules to a new set of facts.Mal Reynolds wrote:Each case is going to stand for a new rule, modification of a rule, or sophisticated application of a rule. You should focus on extracting that from the casebook. Facts help only insofar as they will key you into knowing when to apply a rule or analyze a problem in a certain way. Procedural posture doesn't matter AT ALL. The judge's reasoning matters and I would take note of it, but it doesn't matter nearly as much as being able to walk away from each case with an concise idea about how it fits into the course.
If you're having trouble doing this, consult supplements and outlines. Doesn't matter at all how you notate or how detailed your notes are. That only matters in so far as it will help you recall what you need to know come outlining and finals. It's shocking how little you need to know compared to how much you are assigned at the end of the day.
Uhhh yes. This is how all of school works.gurlja18 wrote:This is all valuable information. thank ya'll so much. So should I take my own notes on the assigned reading, then add on the professors take when I am in class?
People learn differently, do what works for you bro. I learned a lot from reading cases and did well in law school. I'm sure you could do well using other methods as well, but I figured I should learn to read cases since that is what I'm going to be doing as, you know, a lawyer that people will pay to provide legal advice on developments in case law. You might be able to find case briefs online for law school cases, but you're not learning how to actually interpret cases yourself. If you end up doing litigation, knowing how to actually read cases will come in handy. Practice how you play is what I say, but that's just my approach.Tanicius wrote:Why is no one actually answering his question? The answer is that you don't read these shitty books. They're a monumental waste of time (and money). Look up the cases online if you have to, but read the whole fucking thing? No way. Every time I actually opened a casebook in my 1L year, I walked away from the case way more confused than I would have been if I had just read a paragraph outline. For complicated cases where you know you will be on call, read the Westlaw headnotes and call it a day.
Seriously, don't waste your time reading your Pennoyers and Twomblys. Casebook reading is basically nothing more than a 1L hazing ritual. After first semester I never even bought the casebooks again.
This. And the fact that whether you should read cases or not is way too heavily class/professor-specific to give any categorical rule on the issue.NotMyRealName09 wrote:People learn differently, do what works for you bro. I learned a lot from reading cases and did well in law school. I'm sure you could do well using other methods as well, but I figured I should learn to read cases since that is what I'm going to be doing as, you know, a lawyer.Tanicius wrote:Why is no one actually answering his question? The answer is that you don't read these shitty books. They're a monumental waste of time (and money). Look up the cases online if you have to, but read the whole fucking thing? No way. Every time I actually opened a casebook in my 1L year, I walked away from the case way more confused than I would have been if I had just read a paragraph outline. For complicated cases where you know you will be on call, read the Westlaw headnotes and call it a day.
Seriously, don't waste your time reading your Pennoyers and Twomblys. Casebook reading is basically nothing more than a 1L hazing ritual. After first semester I never even bought the casebooks again.
I agree only in part, because as the previous poster highlighted everyone learns differently. By my 2nd/3rd year I finally stopped reading the casebook. It was a colossal time sink. I think during 1L you have no idea what do do except what is instructed (reading the casebook), so you do that.Tanicius wrote:Why is no one actually answering his question? The answer is that you don't read these shitty books. They're a monumental waste of time (and money). Look up the cases online if you have to, but read the whole fucking thing? No way. Every time I actually opened a casebook in my 1L year, I walked away from the case way more confused than I would have been if I had just read a paragraph outline. For complicated cases where you know you will be on call, read the Westlaw headnotes and call it a day.
Seriously, don't waste your time reading your Pennoyers and Twomblys. Casebook reading is basically nothing more than a 1L hazing ritual. After first semester I never even bought the casebooks again.
I agree with this. IMO starting day 1 I think you should read to learn how to read cases and also because you don't know wtf is going on so you should be structured. And every prof. is definitely different. By the middle of my 1L semester I stopped reading completely for 2 substantive classes (and legal writing, lol), but for my other 2 I sometimes read the cases 2 or 3 times to make sure I knew I had it. And all my grades were in the same range.LAWYER2 wrote:I agree only in part, because as the previous poster highlighted everyone learns differently. By my 2nd/3rd year I finally stopped reading the casebook. It was a colossal time sink. I think during 1L you have no idea what do do except what is instructed (reading the casebook), so you do that.Tanicius wrote:Why is no one actually answering his question? The answer is that you don't read these shitty books. They're a monumental waste of time (and money). Look up the cases online if you have to, but read the whole fucking thing? No way. Every time I actually opened a casebook in my 1L year, I walked away from the case way more confused than I would have been if I had just read a paragraph outline. For complicated cases where you know you will be on call, read the Westlaw headnotes and call it a day.
Seriously, don't waste your time reading your Pennoyers and Twomblys. Casebook reading is basically nothing more than a 1L hazing ritual. After first semester I never even bought the casebooks again.
Getting drunk and hooking up with classmates OBVIOUSLY.jk148706 wrote:If you don't suggest reading a casebook, what should we spend our time doing?Tanicius wrote:Why is no one actually answering his question? The answer is that you don't read these shitty books. They're a monumental waste of time (and money). Look up the cases online if you have to, but read the whole fucking thing? No way. Every time I actually opened a casebook in my 1L year, I walked away from the case way more confused than I would have been if I had just read a paragraph outline. For complicated cases where you know you will be on call, read the Westlaw headnotes and call it a day.
Seriously, don't waste your time reading your Pennoyers and Twomblys. Casebook reading is basically nothing more than a 1L hazing ritual. After first semester I never even bought the casebooks again.
Echoing this sentiment. It is 180.ymmv wrote:This. And the fact that whether you should read cases or not is way too heavily class/professor-specific to give any categorical rule on the issue.