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state v federal law
Posted: Fri May 02, 2014 9:09 am
by JDanger007
I am a little bit hung up on this issue: If states have the power to create their same sex marriage laws, ban, not ban whatever, then how do federal courts have the power to overturn say a state that has just allowed same sex marriage. I get that the federal court is the law of the land so it naturally overrides state law, but what piece of the puzzle am I missing.
Thanks.
Re: state v federal law
Posted: Fri May 02, 2014 10:11 am
by 2807
You're close.
States can make their laws regarding same sex marriage, but that law must comport with the US Constitution.
So.. if a state makes a law banning same sex marriage, then same sex marriage proponents can claim: 1. equal protection and, 2. due process violations.
And, if successful.. the Federal Court can overturn for these Federal violations.
This is 14th Amendment.
Your concern--> Alternatively, if a state allows same sex, and then a proposition comes along to overturn it (and wins), then the same argument can be made again.
Basically, the US Constitution trumps the state law action, and the parties end up in Federal Court arguing the issue accordingly:
1. Due process (the fundamental right to marry, but then the argument is on "marriage" as man/woman)
2. and Equal protection (treating a certain class differently). Here, sexual proclivity is not a protected class, so the argument is more about hostile motives which would heighten scrutiny and support the same-sex proponents.
With same sex allowed in some states and not others, there are all kinds of other arguments too regarding continuity and protections.
EP and DP are the big ones.
Hope that helps.
Re: state v federal law
Posted: Fri May 02, 2014 10:20 am
by ph14
jp238607 wrote:I am a little bit hung up on this issue: If states have the power to create their same sex marriage laws, ban, not ban whatever, then how do federal courts have the power to overturn say a state that has just allowed same sex marriage. I get that the federal court is the law of the land so it naturally overrides state law, but what piece of the puzzle am I missing.
Thanks.
In that posture, that is, a state that has just
allowed same-sex marriage, then you a federal court probably couldn't overturn the state law (without having more facts, at least). There isn't any apparent constitutional violation in extending marriage to same-sex couples.
Re: state v federal law
Posted: Fri May 02, 2014 3:12 pm
by JDanger007
thanks!