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Not sure what classes to take 2L

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:26 am
by Mr.Throwback
Will be taking the NY bar in July 2016. I was all ready to take trusts and estates until my advisor told me to wait to senior year/closer to the bar. I'm already registered for Con Law II and Evidence. Any recommendations on courses to take that will help me for the bar but that I won't forget when the bar finally arrives? Maybe something like Legal Profession? Thanks y'all!

Re: Not sure what classes to take 2L

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:41 am
by bk1
Unless you're dramatically different from the average law student, there is no class you will remember well enough for the bar to be worth including in your schedule.

Re: Not sure what classes to take 2L

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:54 am
by jarofsoup
I am a big fan of knocking out exit requirements 2L.

But I would more so take things that allow yourself during OCI. Like securities, or tax, or banking. Its hard to saw you are into tax, if you do not take it.

Re: Not sure what classes to take 2L

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 10:09 am
by Danger Zone
Why would anyone take Con Law II

Re: Not sure what classes to take 2L

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 10:09 am
by Mr.Throwback
It's con law II: first amendment, and it's required.

Re: Not sure what classes to take 2L

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 10:16 am
by reverendt
What are your goals after law school.

If you will be seeking federal clerkships, take Federal Courts. Administrative Law, Commercial Transactions, Corporate Law, Family Law...these will all provide a good base for your future practice, depending on what you plan to do.

Re: Not sure what classes to take 2L

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:57 am
by Mr.Throwback
I plan on doing family law, specifically matrimonial..

I will be taking family law, matrimonial law, and mediation in the spring.

Re: Not sure what classes to take 2L

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:15 pm
by Mr.Throwback
When did you guys take legal profession?

Re: Not sure what classes to take 2L

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:18 pm
by ph14
Mr.Throwback wrote:When did you guys take legal profession?
Most people seem to take it as a 3L.

Re: Not sure what classes to take 2L

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:31 pm
by sundontshine
Mr.Throwback wrote:When did you guys take legal profession?
I took it as a 3L so that I took the MPRE while I was in the class. Made both "studying" for the MPRE and studying for the exam easier to do it all at once.

Re: Not sure what classes to take 2L

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:32 pm
by Nova
Danger Zone wrote:Why would anyone take Con Law II
my school reqs CL2

Meanwhile, they only have 1 section of evidence each semester and Im 0/3 on getting in. :roll:

Re: Not sure what classes to take 2L

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:34 pm
by gaud
Danger Zone wrote:Why would anyone take Con Law II
Because Wikipedia is so clutch.

Re: Not sure what classes to take 2L

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:43 pm
by Nova
there are a lot of factors you can weigh

-Class curve from previous years
-Personal interest
-Academic BS or BLL?
-Format of the class (paper? open/closed book final? additional assignments?)
-Times of classes

don't worry about bar prep

Re: Not sure what classes to take 2L

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 2:12 pm
by echooo23
I took an externship course, which gave me time away from school, more work experience going into 2L summer, and the opportunity to improve my writing and get another writing sample. I highly recommend some sort of externship or clinic course.

Re: Not sure what classes to take 2L

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 2:36 pm
by Mr.Throwback
I have an internship lined up for the fall already, although it wouldn't take the place of a class (at least i don't think?). So I now I have to deal with trying to schedule around that.

Re: Not sure what classes to take 2L

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 3:21 pm
by Danger Zone
Stick to classes you can get an easy A in. How you get there is based on the factors that Nova listed. Look for generous curves and easy/engaging profs.

Re: Not sure what classes to take 2L

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 4:03 pm
by Mr.Throwback
I guess it doesn't help that I have no clue what classes are "an easy A".

Re: Not sure what classes to take 2L

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 4:13 pm
by Danger Zone
Talk to upperclassmen.

Re: Not sure what classes to take 2L

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 4:21 pm
by Ohiobumpkin
Business Associations is a pretty good class to knock out early.

Re: Not sure what classes to take 2L

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 4:36 pm
by Jsa725
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Re: Not sure what classes to take 2L

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 8:36 pm
by Lockfast
I balanced: a) What I know I can get a good grade in, b) what interests me, and c) what class would teach me things that might help me over summer.

Figured everything else that I need to learn for the bar will be taught to me by BarBri.

Re: Not sure what classes to take 2L

Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 1:21 pm
by reverendt
Mr.Throwback wrote:I plan on doing family law, specifically matrimonial..

I will be taking family law, matrimonial law, and mediation in the spring.
Sounds like you know what you're doing.
Consider a class in ADR (a lot of matrimonial law involves negotiating and settlements.)
Also, consider clinic. My 1L summer I interned part time at a clinic for indigent clients. I did a lot of divorce complaints, custody stips, etc. If you can't get in with A Family Law Firm, try to get involved with something like that.

Re: Not sure what classes to take 2L

Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 1:23 pm
by ph14
reverendt wrote:
Mr.Throwback wrote:I plan on doing family law, specifically matrimonial..

I will be taking family law, matrimonial law, and mediation in the spring.
Sounds like you know what you're doing.
Consider a class in ADR (a lot of matrimonial law involves negotiating and settlements.)
Also, consider clinic. My 1L summer I interned part time at a clinic for indigent clients. I did a lot of divorce complaints, custody stips, etc. If you can't get in with a family law FIRM, try to get involved with something like that.
Agreed on ADR (or other sort of negotiations class). Consider also some sort of wills, trusts, and estates class, which will touch upon a lot of issues that impact or intersect with family law.

Re: Not sure what classes to take 2L

Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 8:32 pm
by sd5289
jarofsoup wrote:I am a big fan of knocking out exit requirements 2L.
This.

Not only does it free 3L up for jerb searching/interviewing (especially since you said you want to practice Family Law...note on that, take a Family Law course that actually does NY DRL), it also opens up your 3L schedule to anything you realize you need to take over 2L that you didn't actually take. Prior to 2L I thought no way in hell am I taking Admin Law, and now I've realized that not only is it on the NY bar now (I'm taking it in July 2015, so it'll definitely be on yours), there's a chance I may end up in an administrative setting later on in life, and it'd be nice to get more familiar with it.

But yes, put your time in during 2L (which will suck) and enjoy your 3L year. I'm this spring finals period away from that sweet, sweet 3L life.

ETA: and yes on ADR for a Family Law track.